Oh Goodie! ... More on 911 (inside job) :)

[mexiblunt]

There is nothing irrefutable about that. In fact it makes perfect sense that the building fell the way it did. Once a substantial portion of a building begins falling the downward force increases exponentially and basically becomes a free fall. The math is quite simple really even for a guy like me with only a couple of semesters of college physics. You have seen videos of an avalanche right? Same concept.

But let's set that aside for the moment. It is a fact, and you can call any demolition company to verify this, that imploding a building of that magnitude takes months of preparation and hundreds of man hours. In fact a guy I know is an OSHA inspector who works those jobs for months at a time.

The main claim of the 911 conspiracy theorists is that these were controlled demolitions. So instead of trying to obfuscate the issue how about explaining how they managed to complete hundreds of man hours of work on a building without being seen.

Anyone want to start a demo company with me?

We will make loads of cash! We will offer a slightly lower rate than the average demo company that will get the contracts.
We will tell them instead of waiting months to pull their building we can do it in a day!

That's right one DAY! Hundreds of man hours seems a little much these days. I'm just thinking light fires that engulf at least 2 floors and we may need a few containers of diesel fuel on the bottom floor or basement if possible.
Think of the savings not having to buy explosives,det cord, explosives insurance, lower staff. At one demo a day compared to one every few months we could put alot of em out of business. Mind you we will only be doing steel core buildings cause it just seems like a gravy job.
WE WILL BE THE NEW STANDARD IN STEEL REINFORCED BUILDING DEMO!!!!

 

[c5rftw]

Anyone want to start a demo company with me?

We will make loads of cash! We will offer a slightly lower rate than the average demo company that will get the contracts.
We will tell them instead of waiting months to pull their building we can do it in a day!

That's right one DAY! Hundreds of man hours seems a little much these days. I'm just thinking light fires that engulf at least 2 floors and we may need a few containers of diesel fuel on the bottom floor or basement if possible.
Think of the savings not having to buy explosives,det cord, explosives insurance, lower staff. At one demo a day compared to one every few months we could put alot of em out of business. Mind you we will only be doing steel core buildings cause it just seems like a gravy job.
WE WILL BE THE NEW STANDARD IN STEEL REINFORCED BUILDING DEMO!!!!

lol thought that was cool until, oh wait, when you put high heat(like jet fuel) on concrete, IT EXPLODES... hence steel reinforced CONCRETE. If just the steel could of held the buildings up by itself, dont you think they would of build with just steel to save money, I mean aren't your "evil" execs trying to save money for themselves... And another thing, you really think the architects who build the twin towers would ever imagine, first of all the pure force of a 600,000 pound aircraft going 400mph hitting and then being burned by jet fuel, which burns up to 2000degrees, for hours. yes 2000 degrees doesn't melt steel, but ask ANY metal urgist, and they will tell you that it certain as hell gets weaker. I build houses and you obviously know nothing about structers... and how can you talk about 9/11 like those peoples that died dont matter.... wow your twisted mind amazes me.

 

[NoDrama]

lol thought that was cool until, oh wait, when you put high heat(like jet fuel) on concrete, IT EXPLODES... hence steel reinforced CONCRETE. If just the steel could of held the buildings up by itself, dont you think they would of build with just steel to save money, I mean aren't your "evil" execs trying to save money for themselves... And another thing, you really think the architects who build the twin towers would ever imagine, first of all the pure force of a 600,000 pound aircraft going 400mph hitting and then being burned by jet fuel, which burns up to 2000degrees, for hours. yes 2000 degrees doesn't melt steel, but ask ANY metal urgist, and they will tell you that it certain as hell gets weaker. I build houses and you obviously know nothing about structers... and how can you talk about 9/11 like those peoples that died dont matter.... wow your twisted mind amazes me.

Jet fuel in open air burns at 650F, it burns at 1400F ..IN A FUCKING JET ENGINE where it is compressed , super heated and stoichiometrically mixed with air and then ignited. Another funny thing is that you don't realize it, but the WHOLE building is made of steel, there is no steel reinforced concrete, the floors are steel, the walls are steel, the ceiling is steel, all of it. Not only were the buildings designed to take a hit from a 747 ( A larger aircraft) but they were designed to take MULTIPLE hits!! Oh and you said the fires burned for hours? Try 50 minutes.


All too easy.

 

[NoDrama]

Oh and by the way here is some real science that debunks all your nonsense - have fun.

http://www.debunking911.com/freefall.htm

The debris is paper and small pieces that do not have the mass of 3 ton steel beams, hence they don't fall as fast. In no way is it proof that the building isn't falling at near free fall speeds, you only have to know how tall the building was and then time how long it takes to fall to know if it fell faster than is physically possible. Debunking debunked.

 

[fdd2blk]

Jet fuel in open air burns at 650F, it burns at 1400F ..IN A FUCKING JET ENGINE where it is compressed , super heated and stoichiometrically mixed with air and then ignited. Another funny thing is that you don't realize it, but the WHOLE building is made of steel, there is no steel reinforced concrete, the floors are steel, the walls are steel, the ceiling is steel, all of it. Not only were the buildings designed to take a hit from a 747 ( A larger aircraft) but they were designed to take MULTIPLE hits!! Oh and you said the fires burned for hours? Try 50 minutes.


All too easy.

RUST(steel) + ALUMINUM(airplane) = up to 2500 degrees

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thermite

 

[NoDrama]

RUST(steel) + ALUMINUM(airplane) = up to 2500 degrees

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thermite

LOL yup, you just know thats up to scrutiny.

This was already brought up anyway, the problem is that they could not mix in the correct proportion to create the reaction.

 

[fdd2blk]

LOL yup, you just know thats up to scrutiny.

This was already brought up anyway, the problem is that they could not mix in the correct proportion to create the reaction.

i'm not here to judge.

 

[Keenly]

Oh and by the way here is some real science that debunks all your nonsense - have fun.

http://www.debunking911.com/freefall.htm

http://www.debunking911.com/thermite.htm

http://www.debunking911.com/index.html

One more on the guy who started all this garbage.

http://www.debunking911.com/jones.htm

before 9/11 there had never been a single case of a steel high rise structure collapsing due to fire, not a single one

oh but here comes 9/11, and 3 high rise steel structures collapsed "due to fire" in one day


little odd


FDD your plane aluminum theory WOULD make sense, but what about the third building? wasnt hit by a plane



you see this skyscraper right here? its a fucking TORCH for god sakes

but it didnt collapse




its a fucking straight up fireball

this is the non-collapsed remains

 

[wyteboi]

before 9/11 there had never been a single case of a steel high rise structure collapsing due to fire, not a single one

oh but here comes 9/11, and 3 high rise steel structures collapsed "due to fire" in one day


little odd.....?


FDD your plane aluminum theory WOULD make sense, but what about the third building? wasnt hit by a plane



you see this skyscraper right here? its a fucking TORCH for god sakes

but it didnt collapse




its a fucking straight up fireball

this is the non-collapsed remains

with me not being on one side or the other (for this post) then those pics with the hundreds of other burnt buildings pics should be enough to prove the demo theory? (with a lil common sense)

 

[doobnVA]

I build houses and you obviously know nothing about structers...

Teehee... does anyone else think it's funny that because he builds HOUSES (which, last I checked, aren't typically made with steel or steel-reinforced concrete) he's somehow an expert on "structers"? (and is that short for CONstructers? As in, "those who construct"?)

Anyway...

 

[doobnVA]

RUST(steel) + ALUMINUM(airplane) = up to 2500 degrees

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thermite

One problem with the rust theory is that the steel facade of the building was covered with aluminum siding to discourage rust, and the interior beams were covered with asbestos for the same reason. Now, the buildings were 40some years old so you can imagine there would be some degree of rusting despite the measures taken to prevent it. But then consider that if the aluminum+rust accelerated the collapse of the building by raising the temperature of the fire, that the aluminum/steel facade on the building where the plane crashed through and the fires BEGAN would have collapsed or fallen off LONG before the steel beams were weakened enough to bring the whole building down.

Instead, what we saw was the free-fall collapse of the entire structure into its own footprint. Something that has never happened, before or since.

 

[wyteboi]

Instead, what we saw was the free-fall collapse of the entire structure into its own footprint. Something that has never happened, before or since.

to that one.

 

[c5rftw]

okay you guys are right, no point tryin to hide it anymore. bush pushed the switch... I knew, we all knew, we were just tryin to help our guys get away with this one....

 

[jfgordon1]

i read this shit everyday... and ask myself the same question...

Why doesn't everyone see a problem with the events of 9/11?

::shrugs:: ::turns on TV::

 

[c5rftw]

So let me get this right, since you guys are experts.... since both building started collapsing RIGHT where the planes hit,,, how could you of planned this if it wasn't the planes themselves that caused them to fall and was some job by bush or corporate thugs or whoever.

 

[wyteboi]

So let me get this right, since you guys are experts.... since both building started collapsing RIGHT where the planes hit,,, how could you of planned this if it wasn't the planes themselves that caused them to fall and was some job by bush or corporate thugs or whoever.

we will never know HOW but it happened PERIOD ... and in the very near future you will see a new official report.......lets wait an see what kind of bullshit changes they make to it .....................

A REAL INVESTIGATION WILL ANSWER YOUR QUESTIONS TOO!

 

[fdd2blk]

One problem with the rust theory is that the steel facade of the building was covered with aluminum siding to discourage rust, and the interior beams were covered with asbestos for the same reason. Now, the buildings were 40some years old so you can imagine there would be some degree of rusting despite the measures taken to prevent it. But then consider that if the aluminum+rust accelerated the collapse of the building by raising the temperature of the fire, that the aluminum/steel facade on the building where the plane crashed through and the fires BEGAN would have collapsed or fallen off LONG before the steel beams were weakened enough to bring the whole building down.

Instead, what we saw was the free-fall collapse of the entire structure into its own footprint. Something that has never happened, before or since.

 

[c5rftw]

we will never know HOW but it happened PERIOD ... and in the very near future you will see a new official report.......lets wait an see what kind of bullshit changes they make to it .....................

A REAL INVESTIGATION WILL ANSWER YOUR QUESTIONS TOO!

No matter what, people wont believe it. I dont even really care about the buildings to tell you the truth. I just care about the needless loss of life

 

[c5rftw]

LOL.....nice

 

[fdd2blk]

Teehee... does anyone else think it's funny that because he builds HOUSES (which, last I checked, aren't typically made with steel or steel-reinforced concrete) he's somehow an expert on "structers"? (and is that short for CONstructers? As in, "those who construct"?)

Anyway...

it's called "engineering". what applies to one thing can easily carry over.


i'm not trying to pick on you, just trying to get you to slow down and think before you post.