Re-Distribution of Wealth
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RickWhite
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If you grow a great crop of bud with no help from anyone else and then all your neighbors show up and decide to split your buds up among everyone on the block because they have none would this be a good thing?
707Humboldt$born707
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there is no incentive to do a good job like capitalism
MexicanWarlord420
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is redistributing money from the poor to the rich a good thing?
well, there used to be something in place called trickle-down economics...
by which the wealthy were made wealthy by enterprises within the U.S., so basically the wealthy's money would slowly "trickle-down" to the less rich by means of salaries, and such...
now there exists "funnel-up" economics, by which enterprises continually cut costs by operating outside the U.S, finding cheaper and cheaper sources of labor. They go on to gradually increase the selling price. so the rich get richer and richer...
that said, the answer to the question is no.
but taxing should be more representative of your means, and certain areas of quality of life should be met according to people's needs.... for example: right now the poorest, least educated people get the worst education, which is not really representative of what these people need.... get it??
by which the wealthy were made wealthy by enterprises within the U.S., so basically the wealthy's money would slowly "trickle-down" to the less rich by means of salaries, and such...
now there exists "funnel-up" economics, by which enterprises continually cut costs by operating outside the U.S, finding cheaper and cheaper sources of labor. They go on to gradually increase the selling price. so the rich get richer and richer...
that said, the answer to the question is no.
but taxing should be more representative of your means, and certain areas of quality of life should be met according to people's needs.... for example: right now the poorest, least educated people get the worst education, which is not really representative of what these people need.... get it??
I agree, everyone should be entitled to a good education and if people want a good education they can work hard and get it, like Obama did.... get it?
PeachOibleBoiblePeach#1
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No, I don't get it^^^?
doobnVA
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Ditto to that.
Haha, ok i'll break this brainbuster down. In America, if you really want a good education, you can work hard and get it. Obama is the perfect example of this concept.
Don't worry guys not many people understand hard work.
doobnVA
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And by "work hard" do you mean saddle yourself with debt, or ride the coattails of Mommy and Daddy? Those are about the only options you have.
I don't know if you've noticed, but most people (who are lucky enough to be employed) already ARE working hard. Many of them can't afford a "good" education because their hard-earned money barely pays the bills and puts food on the table.
Not so long ago, the only way you were able to get an education was if you were lucky enough to have parents who could read and write, or a teacher in your town. Are you suggesting we go back to those days? You do realize that isn't progress, right? That's moving backward, not forward.
PeachOibleBoiblePeach#1
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I'm glad you said Guy's,,,Cause I'm a Man, a worker, a parent of someone Prob, around your age, I have what you call experience, and in Today's age a Lot of collage Brainiacks, are really having trouble finding jobs, Going into great debt, only to find out there going to have to take something much lower in pay than they realized? It all depends, I wish you luck and everyone, But a great education, does not = a Great Job, It's all up 2 You, and how much your willing to risk on yourself to become happy and sucsessful.
You can work in the day and go to school at night. You can work at night and go to school in the day. Work and go to school online. You can work 2 part time jobs and go to school part time like myself. In short, if you really want something in America you can get it, if you are willing to work hard. Unfortunately, like you said, it is becoming harder and harder to find a job.
Agreed, the economy sucks. As a result, people must work even harder.
undertheice
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wealth is redistributed all the time. it increases and decreases here and there, it pops up out of nowhere and then miraculously disappears down the same rabbit hole it came from. it is attracted by other wealth, but it is also attracted by labor, risk, ingenuity and luck. it really doesn't mind being around poverty, but wealth tends to kill it when the two come into contact. wealth is created more than it is destroyed and its reproductive powers are truly amazing. it despises sloth, but has an astounding tolerance for graft and corruption. wealth is the beautiful abused stepchild of civilization - constantly sought after, but seldom treated well.
the real question is, "is the theft of money a good thing?" and i think we all know the answer. regardless of the intent or of who is doing the stealing, taking what belongs to someone else without their permission is just not what decent folks do. it seems a simple enough concept.
the real question is, "is the theft of money a good thing?" and i think we all know the answer. regardless of the intent or of who is doing the stealing, taking what belongs to someone else without their permission is just not what decent folks do. it seems a simple enough concept.
ink the world
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Tell that to the guy who had his job outsourced and now woks for $ 7.85 at Mcdonalds, Walmart or for that fact any fast food job or retail job.
Better yet, tell that to his Mortgage Company, Electric company, heating oil supplier, the taxman, the grocery store, wife and kids, etc. etc.
I have a staff of 6 people that I manage, all are college educated w/ degrees in computer programming, phychology etc.
They are ALL (like me) underemployed and making less than 1/3 of what they had expected or had been earning in their respective fields.
No offense but your response sounds like the typical starry eyed college kids. The real world is not the same as that of 50-60 years ago. Im sorry, but the "American Dream" is just that, a dream; to too many people.
That "dream" and the greed of those that capitalized on it through the mortgage and real estate industry are a major reason why our economy is the mess that it is.
doobnVA
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And what about the person who is already working 70-80 hours per week JUST TO PUT FOOD ON THE TABLE? Where is that person going to find the time OR MONEY to attend college?
You, like many others here, don't seem to realize that "rags to riches" is a fairy tale. For most people under the poverty line "rags to clothes from Kmart" is a fairy tale.
You have no idea how the real world works. You have never experienced true adversity, so you assume it doesn't exist.
There are kids who have to drop out of high school to look after younger siblings, or get jobs to help pay the bills at home. Once you're stuck in a cycle of poverty, it is NEAR impossible to pull yourself out of without a GIANT stroke of luck. LUCK, not hard work. LUCK.
Green Cross
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Obama did not get were he is by working hard.
It's called Chicago politics (favors) and special treatment.
If you tax (hurt) the rich, they won't consume. It's not poor people who keep the wheels of industry in motion. I love rich people because they pay me well.
ChChoda
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You live in Obamas America. Not mine. Adversity (i.e. poverty) creates character in those that strive to be strong, and debilitates those who consider themselves weak; the trough feeders.
doobnVA
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Spoken like someone who has never LIVED in poverty, or even left the suburbs.You live in Obamas America. Not mine. Adversity (i.e. poverty) creates character in those that strive to be strong, and debilitates those who consider themselves weak; the trough feeders.
You live in a dream world.