JigFresh's Grow #2 : Vertical Scrog - closet diy dwc - 650w - Headband + Casey Jones

jigfresh

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Those look like some nice cuttings ........ get some roots on those and i will take them
Hey Jig, did you clone your cuttings?
I have just thrown everything into the trash... sad I know.

You two can come on up with some rooting gel and some rockwool and have em all. I cut 17 the other day... they are (or were) beautiful.

You already got your 400w hps hooked up in that their setup man?
Well... I have a 400w Metal Halide bulb giving of my good white light. It is a conversion bulb so it's running on my HPS ballast, but so far, the plant are basking in 400w of white metal halide light.

i found this forum called www.verticalgreen.org

you should post a journal on there to fire those vert guys up over there.
Right on bro... I made a thread. Don't worry guys, I'll never leave you.

Vertical Green Journal

by the way, really like those metallic letters on the pot.
Thanks a lot. I'm very proud of them. Makes my plants in their pots look extra cool. In case you guys didn't figure it out there is 'P' for Purple kush, and 'S' for Sour Grape.
 

jigfresh

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So first of all I have a first in growing. I beleive I have my first deficiency. I've only ever gave them too much nutes, but the sour grape in the hydro... it's new growth is a bit too yellow. I'm not exactly thrilled about it, but I'm quite happy I have finally not given them too much.

I've started trimming more off the casey jones. Also, I'm thinking the sour grape might only fill half the screen in the time the casey jones fills the whole thing. With the trimming I tried to show you guys where I'm trimming them. I want to keep things thin, but I don't want to rip too much off and not have any budsites on the bottom half of the plant. So I'm leaving the bottom couple budsites on each 'branch' i take off.

I've only taken one little clone off the sour grape plant.

There are also many fan leaves I have tucked behind the screen... i pulled the ugly ones off.

The casey jones is drinking many many times more water than the sour grape... it's wild. The sour grape has drank maybe 15 % of the water, the casey jones has drank about 65%.

The plants are still growing. That's a good thing.

HYDRO ^^^ SOIL (below)

The little girls in the soil look oh so pretty. Just gorgeous. They seem happy. They don't feel dry, no wilting, and the moisture meter says something in the middle.

Question about the soil ph meter... the instuctions say to take some soil out, put in a glass with water and use that to measure the ph... is that what you guys do? I thought you just stick it in the soil.

I can't wait to water them again, so I can mix in the root zone stuff... whatever it's called. Oregonism... bring that soil to life.

I'm not sure what else.

Met another RIU member last night. Smoked some of his herb, he smoked some of mine. I love this website.

Both hydro and soil... I picuted the Sour Grape first.
 

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bigjesse1922

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Things look great.

You can try crushing Casey Jones' stem in a few places to make her slow down the growth and let SG catch up.
 

jigfresh

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Things look great.

You can try crushing Casey Jones' stem in a few places to make her slow down the growth and let SG catch up.
Great idea jesse. One reason I'm not in a hurry is I want a huge root ball on each of these things. I figures more roots = bigger badder buds, so slowing veg growth is ok as long as those roots keep going.

Thanks bro.

It would be great if I could finish my soil grow by new years. Have some SG and some more PK. :blsmoke:
 

tom__420

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Plants are looking good dude! ^^^That is what I would be looking like if I opened the door to your garden. I'm getting pumped for you just looking at the pics haha
 

jigfresh

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Oh my god dude. I have been laughing about this shit for 2 days now. I beleive I am going to think of this pic thing everytime I go in my closet.

Priceless bro.

Thanks you guys for the comment. LoadedDragon, great to have you my man.

I put some panda film up tonight... I sepaates he rez are from the grow ares. Keeps the tanks in the shade, keeps the light drawing cool bedroom air. and makes things generally more organized (in my head at least).

No one answered me about the soil ph meter... do you guys just stick the ph meter in the soil to measure or what? My instructins said to take soil out, put in beaker with RO water and measure that.

You guys do all that?

:peace:
 

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donkeyote

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i haven't used or bought a ph meter yet, I'm keeping my first grow on a strict budget. I did get a cheap reagant PH test kit from teh local head shop, and just make sure my nutes are ph'd properly. I checked the runoff the other day and it was perfect, and since the grow is going so well I'm not really going to sweat it.

I think one of the major positives to growing in soil, is that it doesn't have to be complicated.
 

JanecommaMary

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jig this is a priceless work of art. be very proud of yourself. +rep to you and you can bet your ass im subscribing to this one, cant wait to see how it all works out! also, im not sure if your still concerned about leaking through your roof, but ive done a number of roofing jobs and there is an adhesive material called Ice & Water. Its a roll of essentially tar paper that has an adhesive side, very watertight and you can cut it easily with a exacto knife or a box cutter. im not sure what size they sell them in, usually just big rolls..maybe you could ask them for a sample piece like 2'x2' since you wouldnt need much. again, good luck, and bring on the bud porn!
 

kevin

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jig, it took me 30 minutes to get 5 blocks the other night, you got me goofy bro. rep+++ buddy
 

jigfresh

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jig, it took me 30 minutes to get 5 blocks the other night, you got me goofy bro. rep+++ buddy
Glad you liked it bud. It's a good thing you didn't try the Hindu Skunk as well. You might not be there yet.

Jane,Mary: Thanks so much for the kind words... that means a lot. I also apprecitate the help... I'll check the hardware store next time I'm there. Still need to patch things up there.

So... the soil plants FINALLY need a watering. It's been 10 days since they last got water. This morning they finally 'felt' empty/ dry. And the fan leaves are just starting to wilt.

I'm planning on giving them each 1/2 gallon of water mixed with the apporpriate ammount of 'Oregonism' and Molasses.

Jesse, you said you would start with 1/2 gallon of water for a 5 gal. pot... I'm using 2 gallon pots, but I'm still gonna use 1/2 gallon. Should I be cutting that in half? I guess it's better to water less more often? Whatever, they should be happy tonight.

So again, I'm adding 1/2 gallon RO water, 4 tablespoons Oregonism, and 1 tablespoon Molasses to each 2 gallon pot.

And I'll be adjusting the water to a pH of 6.0 before I add to plants. I'm also going to check the run off (there will be run off with 1/2 gallon?)

The hydro plants are still growing. I'm starting to wonder if I should put the HPS light in... keep them vegging, but change to HPS in hopes of them stretching more. I feel like they are never ever going to get 4.5 feet tall... the just keep getting tighter and tighter internode spacing.

Thoughts?

What a baseball game, huh?

Pics later tonight.
 

smoote1987

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Hey jig, long time...

just letting you know I'm still here. You know me I'll chime in if I see anything a-miss. Keep up the good work.

p.s. don't jump the gun. be patient, training is an art form... Think Bonsai. Those plants will eventually learn where to grow. You're doing a giant screen so it may take you much longer than you expect to fill that monster. Remember that you're giving the plant equal distribution of light on all parts so you're probably going to have to keep trimming that center section over and over just so it will only spread where you want it to (the edges).

Some other more theoretical thoughts might be to raise the light and make the plant reach then tie those stems back down along the screen. You have a very high wattage mh which is just making it veg like a beast. You're getting great nodal spacing which isn't necessarily what you think you want but it will really pay off when you go to flower it. What you really need is to get those stems to grow longer but with the same nodal spacing. The hps might help but i really can't say. Try a combination of both. it couldn't hurt. Any way good luck. Hope this helped.
 

smoote1987

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Totally helped brother. Really glad to see you, and even more happy you come bearing usefull bits on information and opinion.

Thanks for watching and contributing both.

:mrgreen:
No biggie. Man i just like to watch.... oh that sounded creepy. :roll:

Don't fret, just think of me like your gangian angel :mrgreen:
 

Hulk Nugs

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raise the light and make the plant reach then tie those stems back down along the screen. QUOTE]


my thoughts exactly ......


..... i was thinking you already had the two lights in there from the start .... i would just hook up your light fixture with both lights mh/hps and raise them so bottom light is mid screen if not higher....


..... give it a day or so then you will see some stretch

bongsmilie:twisted::peace:
 

robotninja

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Do you got any form of Co2? If you add some yeast buckets or whatever, it should defiantly help em grow bigger.

Or a ton of hamsters hehe...
 

kevin

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hey jig, when i water my soil grown plants i like to see just a bit of water coming out of the seep holes. my first few grows i used r.o. water with good results, now i just use tap water with the same results. and i've read tap water has minerals and stuff that do plants good.

the cloudy week method worked great, i should have put a stronger fan on them. had mold on a couple of the top buds. i trimmed it all off and put it in the freezer. moldy hash buds? ordering my bags today. yippie!!!

i really wish i could of spent more time with you, maybe in 7 months when he gets back. his wife just texted me saying she got a message saying he just landed in iraq.
 
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