A Bored Electrician to Answer Your Questions
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haggis1980
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Wow that was the quickest reply ever, its more for the missus ,so i can show her that im trying to save money with 100w or 150w bulbs, and cut her whining that 250w is going to be on for 18hrs 
IAm5toned
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Is this electrical fix a fire hazard? My stoner buddy did it for me and im worried that he fucked it up.
looks like someone got a little too liberal with a sawzall
as long as those wirenuts are good and tight,(atleast 8 full turns past the point where they start to grab onto the wire) and the wires inside them are making decent contact its fine.
its not legal, but only because code says all splices shall be in junction boxes.
but i would be lying if i said i have never done that myself
IAm5toned
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mine used to whine untill she smoked the first harvest.Wow that was the quickest reply ever, its more for the missus ,so i can show her that im trying to save money with 100w or 150w bulbs, and cut her whining that 250w is going to be on for 18hrs
now she's like- have you checked the plants today?
doctorD
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I can only hope for the day that happensmine used to whine untill she smoked the first harvest.
now she's like- have you checked the plants today?
mjr99
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looks like someone got a little too liberal with a sawzall
as long as those wirenuts are good and tight,(atleast 8 full turns past the point where they start to grab onto the wire) and the wires inside them are making decent contact its fine.
its not legal, but only because code says all splices shall be in junction boxes.
but i would be lying if i said i have never done that myself
Yea, that was a bad night. Didnt even look to see if there was anything on the other side of the drywall. Cut right through that wire with my knife and blew the whole circuit. I guess im lucky i didnt get fried. As far as the fix, i have no idea if he made the right amount of twists and if they're tight enough. Its in the attic so theres no risk of any person causing damage to it. The guy was a licsenced electrician but im still paranoid because it looks so hack. What would cause it to spark and be a potential fire hazard anyway? Are there any signs I should look for? I appreciate your help.
IAm5toned
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there's really nothing wrong with it man besides its ugly
since theres no moving parts there, i wouldnt be looking for sparks, because thats what causes them most of the time.
if the wires are loosely connected they will heat up, so something to check for is 'marshmellowing' of the insulation.. this is when its starts to get gooey and soft because its ready to melt, it will swell up and sometimes even char a little bit, just like a marshmellow on a stick.
but personally i know of two splices like that that have been in place for 14 years now in my moms house and have had no issues with them.
since theres no moving parts there, i wouldnt be looking for sparks, because thats what causes them most of the time.
if the wires are loosely connected they will heat up, so something to check for is 'marshmellowing' of the insulation.. this is when its starts to get gooey and soft because its ready to melt, it will swell up and sometimes even char a little bit, just like a marshmellow on a stick.
but personally i know of two splices like that that have been in place for 14 years now in my moms house and have had no issues with them.
True Stoner
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Is it safe to have a power bar with 6 outlets plugged into it?? This is the power bar ....
http://www.rpelectronics.com/Default.asp?Main=/English/OnlineCat.asp?Menu=/English/Content/Categories/CatM_13.asp&Detail=/English/Content/Divisions/Div_13_080.asp
All thats going to be plugged into will be my 600 watt HPS digital ballast, 2 vortex fans, water pump, air pumps and oscilatting fan!! Please let me know and also if i ran out of outlets could i plug something into the second outlet since there will be a free one since the other outlet has the power bar plugged into it!! If not what should i do?? I also live in an old house but it looks like the wiring was redone and updated but i could be wrong!! Thanks
http://www.rpelectronics.com/Default.asp?Main=/English/OnlineCat.asp?Menu=/English/Content/Categories/CatM_13.asp&Detail=/English/Content/Divisions/Div_13_080.asp
All thats going to be plugged into will be my 600 watt HPS digital ballast, 2 vortex fans, water pump, air pumps and oscilatting fan!! Please let me know and also if i ran out of outlets could i plug something into the second outlet since there will be a free one since the other outlet has the power bar plugged into it!! If not what should i do?? I also live in an old house but it looks like the wiring was redone and updated but i could be wrong!! Thanks
IAm5toned
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i would change the receptacle out to a 20amp spec grade receptacle.
although that power bar is rated for 1440 watts.. thats still alot to be running of of a single 15amp receptacle.
Green Cross
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What's this adjustment screw in the center of the panel do? Should I crank it up and see? lol kiss-ass
IAm5toned
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lol... no dont crank it up.. pack the whole thing up and put it in the garbage after you have an electrician get you a REAL panel in there...What's this adjustment screw in the center of the panel do? Should I crank it up and see? lol kiss-ass
...but if you must know its a sensitivity adjustment for the main breaker, it changes the ampacity. ive actually only ran across one of those in my entire life... there museum peices nowadays
lol gee i think ive seen that pic before somewhere...... the article was required reading when i was in school
Green Cross
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Looks like I'm going to have to find a cool electrician, or shut down the laboratory for a whilelol... no dont crank it up.. pack the whole thing up and put it in the garbage after you have an electrician get you a REAL panel in there...
...but if you must know its a sensitivity adjustment for the main breaker, it changes the ampacity. ive actually only ran across one of those in my entire life... there museum peices nowadays
lol gee i think ive seen that pic before somewhere...... the article was required reading when i was in school
in the meantime I gave it a full 360 degree turn
lolThanks, I'll rep you again if the console lets me
True Stoner
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So how would i go about switching that over to a 20amp spec grade receptacle?? Also how do you know its a 15 amp receptacale and not a 20 amp??
<----chink eyed!!!
IAm5toned
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i dont know for sure.. but id bet you 20$ it isSo how would i go about switching that over to a 20amp spec grade receptacle?? Also how do you know its a 15 amp receptacale and not a 20 amp??
the reason being is no electrician with $ on his mind would willingly put a 20 amp spec grade receptacle in when he could get away with a standard 15 amp... theres a price difference of about 5$.to switch it out, shut the power off, remove the cover... take out the top and bottom screws that hold the plug to the box in the wall. black wires go to brass screws, white wires go to silver screw, and ground goes to green screw.... make sure the connections are good and tight. its pretty simple...
True Stoner
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Thanks im going to give it a try this weekend. Also i just noticed that when im upstairs in the kitchen as the room is in the lower floor but when i have the microwave on and then use the toaster thats plugged into the same recepticale the fuse blows and i have to go and switch the switch back to one and i also noticed that when it did this the dehumidifier shut off downstairs where the grow is and the recepticale that the dehumidifer is pluggwed into is the recepticale i plan on using for my power bar for the set up!!! i was just thinking of using a differant outlet for the microwave and the toaster. Do you think this will happen once i change the recepticale over to a 20amp one??? I hope not as that will shut off power to EVERYTHING!!! Thanks buddy!!!
True Stoner
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Also if i had an electrician come over to rewire it wouldnt have to go any where except the power box and that outlet right??
IAm5toned
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if your microwave is blowing fuses when your lights are on.... you have problems.
the microwave is supposed to be a dedicated circuit to begin with... 1 one 2 dedicated outlets required in every kitchen.
your going to need a dedicated outlet im afraid, either for the micro or for the grow, but your going to need one
True Stoner
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well ill have to pick the microwave....LOL yeah right!!!!! Thanks
IAm5toned
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still bored.
this is why we dont play with electricity:
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A converter box had been installed at that San Fran warehouse to bypass the electrical meter which probably caused the fire...and they say that's a sign the building may have been used for marijuana growing or a clandestine lab. They are looking at the possibility that the converter box could not handle the electricity load and thus was the source of the fire. The fire in the single-story warehouse was first reported at 4:45 a.m. Thursday. As you know, a Firefighter was hospitalized with a broken leg and burns after being injured when a portion of a wall fell on him.
Sure enough, this morning's Eureka Reporter contains a short article about the house fire on Harrison that was caused by "owner installed lighting and electrical equipment" in the attic where two soil beds of marijuana plants were being grown. When does a house burn down in this county that isn't the result of ghetto electrical wiring or a tipped over fan in a pot garden? It rarely happens. Growers burn down more homes in this area than any other cause, no question about it.
We should probably also point out that the house fire in McKinleyville on Friday was also the result of a gigantic, house-wide marijuana growing operation that burst into flames. This one happened while someone was there! Isn't that the purpose of having a person man your grow op, so that they can prevent unwanted events like structure fire from happening? This home was so completely converted for pot growing that some of the firefighters who entered the house to extinguish the blaze became tangled in loose wires and burned ventilation tubing. Good thing for them they are trained to escape from exactly that sort of mess.
this is why we dont play with electricity:
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A converter box had been installed at that San Fran warehouse to bypass the electrical meter which probably caused the fire...and they say that's a sign the building may have been used for marijuana growing or a clandestine lab. They are looking at the possibility that the converter box could not handle the electricity load and thus was the source of the fire. The fire in the single-story warehouse was first reported at 4:45 a.m. Thursday. As you know, a Firefighter was hospitalized with a broken leg and burns after being injured when a portion of a wall fell on him.
Sure enough, this morning's Eureka Reporter contains a short article about the house fire on Harrison that was caused by "owner installed lighting and electrical equipment" in the attic where two soil beds of marijuana plants were being grown. When does a house burn down in this county that isn't the result of ghetto electrical wiring or a tipped over fan in a pot garden? It rarely happens. Growers burn down more homes in this area than any other cause, no question about it.
We should probably also point out that the house fire in McKinleyville on Friday was also the result of a gigantic, house-wide marijuana growing operation that burst into flames. This one happened while someone was there! Isn't that the purpose of having a person man your grow op, so that they can prevent unwanted events like structure fire from happening? This home was so completely converted for pot growing that some of the firefighters who entered the house to extinguish the blaze became tangled in loose wires and burned ventilation tubing. Good thing for them they are trained to escape from exactly that sort of mess.
jats
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wow..... Hey Iam5toned.....thats heavy...
I am happy to say I have had the electrical work done by a professional ...and not only do I have peace of mind about that stuff now.... but I can draw way more power ,,so I can add a few more lights in my flower room and the AC etc.....heres a photo of the purpose built power box installed in my GR now ...not fancy to look at,,but hey who's gonna see it..?
thanks again for helping to motivate me to get my shit together
I am happy to say I have had the electrical work done by a professional ...and not only do I have peace of mind about that stuff now.... but I can draw way more power ,,so I can add a few more lights in my flower room and the AC etc.....heres a photo of the purpose built power box installed in my GR now ...not fancy to look at,,but hey who's gonna see it..?
thanks again for helping to motivate me to get my shit together