Rookies First Grow, Help Much Needed...

LJ Tha Jedi

Member
I've done alot of searching and reading and I'm a little confused. Now I'm looking for a push in the right direction. Here's what I'm working with......NOTHING!!!

Empty Room: 9x7x8 (2x4 closet in room).

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I plan on growing in an area of 5x5 maybe 6. I plan on buying a 1000 watt HPS/MH... w/reflector and some mylar. Some fluorescent for the closet (for seedlings & clones). I wanna use only organic soil/fert/neuts...

Soo with that said/typed.... this is were help is needed....Everything esle that would make a successful grow room. I know little to nothing about. I'm open to any suggestion/advice... Thanx
 

Sgt.Sly

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You are going to need to think seriously about venting. and possibly air cleaning if smell where you are is going to be a problem. 1000W HPS throws A LOT of heat. And the hight of the room is KEY when you got HPS that strong, Gotta have good hight clearence......Concider how tall your plants could grow?
 

Clevelandblazn5

Active Member
I've done alot of searching and reading and I'm a little confused. Now I'm looking for a push in the right direction. Here's what I'm working with......NOTHING!!!

Empty Room: 9x7x8 (2x4 closet in room).

*****BUT*****

I plan on growing in an area of 5x5 maybe 6. I plan on buying a 1000 watt HPS/MH... w/reflector and some mylar. Some fluorescent for the closet (for seedlings & clones). I wanna use only organic soil/fert/neuts...

Soo with that said/typed.... this is were help is needed....Everything esle that would make a successful grow room. I know little to nothing about. I'm open to any suggestion/advice... Thanx
www.htgsupply.com
 

Sgt.Sly

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Actually if i could make one more suggestion, it's your first time, MAYBE concider a smaller more managable system? Like a 600W or even 400W? It's a lot easier to manage with no experience, and very good for sucessful grows too.
 

Sgt.Sly

Well-Known Member
Oh ya, unless your getting mylar real dirt cheap, Paint your walls FLAT white. Nice good few coats. It's perfect. Reflection rate is higher than Mylar if i'm not mistaken.
 

big happy

Member
Set up the grow room before bringing in any plants. Construction requires space and planning. Once the grow room is set up and totally operational, the room will be ready for plants.Step One:Choose an out-of-the-way space with little or no traffic. A corner in the basement or a spare bedroom is perfect. A 1,000-watt HID, properly set up, will efficiently illuminate up to a 6 x 6-foot room. The ceiling should be at least 5 feet high. Keep in mind that plants are set up about one foot off the ground in containers and the lamp needs about a foot of space to hang from the ceiling. This leaves only three feet of space for plants to grow. If forced to grow in an attic or basement with a low 4-foot ceiling, much can be done to compensate for the loss of height, including cloning, bending, pruning and using 400-watt lamps.Step Two:Enclose the room, if not already enclosed. Remove everything that does not pertain to the garden. Furniture and especially drapes and curtains may harbor fungi. An enclosed room allows easy, precise control of everything and everyone that enters, exits and who and what goes on inside. For most growers, enclosing the grow room is simply a matter of tacking up some sheet rock in the basement or attic and painting it flat white. Make sure no light is visible from outside. If covering a window, do so discretely so that it is not boarded up. Insulate windows and walls so a tale-tell heat signature does not escape. Often basement windows are painted to look like the foundation. Place some stuff – books, personal effects, household goods, etc. – in front of the window and build a box around the things so that a natural scene is seen from the outside. At night, bright light leaking from a crack in an uncovered window is like a beacon to curious neighbors or bandits. Step Three:Cover walls, ceiling, floor everything with a highly reflective, material like flat white paint or whitewash. The more reflection, the more light energy that is available to plants. Good reflective light will allow effective coverage of a HID lamp to increase from 10 to 20 percent, just by putting a few dollars worth of paint on the walls. Reflective white Visqueen® plastic is inexpensive and protects walls and floors.A vent fan and an oscillating circulation fan are essential to keep a healthy environment.Step Four:See "Setting Up the Vent Fan" in Chapter Six. Constant air circulation and a supply of fresh air are essential and often inadequate. There should be at least one fresh air vent in a 10 x l0-foot room. Vents can be an open door, window or duct vented to the outside. An exhaust fan vented outdoors, pulling new fresh air through an open door usually creates an adequate flow of air. An oscillating fan works well for circulation. When installing such a fan, make sure it is not set in a fixed position and blows too hard on tender plants. It could cause windburn or in the case of young seedlings and clones, dry them out. If the room contains a heat vent, it may be opened to supply extra heat or air circulation.Step Five:The larger your garden gets, the more water it will need. A 10 x10-foot garden could use more than 50 gallons a week. Carrying water is hard regular work. One gallon of water weighs 8 pounds, 50 x 8 = 400 pounds of water a week! It is much easier to run in a hose with an on/off valve or install a hose bib in the room than to schlep water. A 3-foot watering wand attached to the hose on/off valve makes watering easier and saves branches from being broken when watering in dense foliage. Hook the hose up to a hot and cold water source so the temperature is easy to regulate.Step Six:Ideally the floor should be concrete or a smooth surface that can be swept and washed down. A floor drain is very handy. In grow rooms with carpet or wood floors, a large, white, painter's dropcloth or thick white Visqueen® plastic, will protect floors from moisture. Trays placed beneath each container add protection and convenience.Step Seven:Mount a hook strong enough to support 30 pounds for each lamp. Attach an adjustable chain or cord and pulley between the ceiling hook and the lamp fixture. The adjustable connection makes it easy to keep the lamp at the proper distance from plants and up out of the way during maintenance.Step Eight:There are some tools an indoor gardener must have and a few extra tools that make indoor horticulture much more precise and cost effective. The extra tools help make the garden so efficient that they pay for themselves in a few weeks. Secure all the tools before bringing plants into the room. If the tools are there when needed, chances are they will be put to use. A good example is a hygrometer. If plants show signs of slow, sickly growth, due to high humidity, most growers will not notice the exact cause right away. They will wait and guess, wait and guess and maybe figure it out before a fungus attacks and the plant dies. When a hygrometer is installed before plants are in the grow room, the horticulturist will know from the start when the humidity is too high and causing sickly growth.Step Nine:Read and complete: “Setting Up the HID Lamp” at the end of Chapter Two.Step Ten:Move seedlings and rooted clones into room. Huddle them closely together under the lamp. Make sure the HID is not so close to small plants that it burns their leaves. Move 400-watt lamps 18 inches above seedlings and clones. Place a 600-watt lamp 24 inches away and a 1000-watt lamp 30 inches away. Check the distance daily. Hang a precut string from the hood to measure distance.Necessary Tools: ThermometerSpray bottlepH testerLiquid biodegradable soapHygrometerPruners or scissorsWire tiesSheetrock screwsScrewdriverMeasuring cup and spoonsPencil and notebookMoisture meterLight meterYardstick to measure growth!
 

LJ Tha Jedi

Member
All this is helpful " alot I know already" but non the less more would'nt hurt...... A few of my concerns are ways to get co2 to the plants. Fresh air in and out, i saw a video about a squirrel cage fan. Dont really know how that works. Could i just put a freakin window A/C in the corner and be good to go???
 

smokermore

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Oh ya, unless your getting mylar real dirt cheap, Paint your walls FLAT white. Nice good few coats. It's perfect. Reflection rate is higher than Mylar if i'm not mistaken.
mylar reflects 97% of the light, white paint reflects 95% of the light....im not sure if those emergency blankets work better than white paint? You kno the one's you can buy in the walmart sporting good xD i bought 2 of them, 3 dollars each, looks like mylar to me but i nvr bought mylar so idk
 

smokermore

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All this is helpful " alot I know already" but non the less more would'nt hurt...... A few of my concerns are ways to get co2 to the plants. Fresh air in and out, i saw a video about a squirrel cage fan. Dont really know how that works. Could i just put a freakin window A/C in the corner and be good to go???
yes u can, but that will be alooot more electricity
 

LJ Tha Jedi

Member
mylar reflects 97% of the light, white paint reflects 95% of the light....im not sure if those emergency blankets work better than white paint? You kno the one's you can buy in the walmart sporting good xD i bought 2 of them, 3 dollars each, looks like mylar to me but i nvr bought mylar so idk
Yeah I know what they are.... How is that working for you?
 

LJ Tha Jedi

Member
I found this in the FAQ section ......... Does This Really Work!!!!!

Use 5 or 6 cups of sugar in a 1 gallon container, make sure the container has a fitted lid. Add half a gallon of water to the sugar along with a couple of tablespoons of active yeast.Poke a small, pencil-like hole in the lid and place it on top of the container.

As often as possible shake the container to blend the mixture thoroughly. In one or two days the yeast will grow and co2 will be a by-product in the container. Now, every time you shake it a burst of co2 will be released into the grow room. Also it will continue to be released through the hole in the lid while you are away. You'll have to change the mixture once every 2-3 weeks.
 

big happy

Member
max can fans are the best and as for the co2 i run the sprayers to the back of my isolating fan so it is despising evenly
 

smokermore

Well-Known Member
I found this in the FAQ section ......... Does This Really Work!!!!!

Use 5 or 6 cups of sugar in a 1 gallon container, make sure the container has a fitted lid. Add half a gallon of water to the sugar along with a couple of tablespoons of active yeast.Poke a small, pencil-like hole in the lid and place it on top of the container.

As often as possible shake the container to blend the mixture thoroughly. In one or two days the yeast will grow and co2 will be a by-product in the container. Now, every time you shake it a burst of co2 will be released into the grow room. Also it will continue to be released through the hole in the lid while you are away. You'll have to change the mixture once every 2-3 weeks.
that would prob work, sounds very "Ghetto" lol, i thought about trying to make a drip system of some sort, to have vinager slowly dripping on a big bowl of baking soda, ive heard that will release co2 too.
Instead of using an AC unit, u can use a squirrel cage fan like u mentioned,if you watch the vid "I Grow Chronic" he uses that kind of fan, and he simply hangs the fan from the ceiling and gets the fan somewhat in the center of the room, connects a venting tube to the fan, so the fan is blowing the hot air out of the room and fresh air comes in from the under the door.
 
what cha need is a good size hole where fresh air comes in usually a window is perfect, then some Exhaust Fans & Circulators then, Temperature & Humidity Gauges and some Atmospheric/Environmental Controllers to tell you hows eveything is doing and soil foxfarm soil is great its organic but check this website out helps with eveything you need trust me, http://www.bghydro.com/
 

Clevelandblazn5

Active Member
This was my first grow and I have a 600w mh and hps and carbon filter along w fox farm nutes and soil etc all for about 5-600 on that site I gave u
 
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