laserbrn
Well-Known Member
I should also note one MAJOR thing that makes me a bit of a hypocrite if not properly explained. I DO try to eat organically grown fruit and vegetables. That is to say that I when I go grocery shopping I am willing to pay a little extra for the organic stuff. I'm not a weenie and I don't ask at restaurants and shit. I do however think it's a + when a food chain or restaurant uses only organically raised fruits and vegetables.
This is NOT because of the quality of the produce. The produce grown with inorganic fertilizers I generally find to be of better quality. They use pesticides to control bugs and they maximize on plant growth and healthiness. The problem is that growing with inorganic fertilizers has detrminental effects on the earth long term and the local farming communities in the very short term.
The use of inorganic fertilizers does lead to heavy metal contamination in the farming areas due to the accumulation of what are generally TRACE elements. These elements also exist when using organic fertilizers (or anything else that uses phosphate). If it accumulates a lot in the soil that's being used for growing it CAN build up in the produce as well.
The real problem is that nowadays the way farms are run using inorganic fertilizers the soil is "flushed" and the water drains away into our underground water tables or into our sewage system after each crop where it can obviously go and accumulate while the grower "upstairs" is adding a whole new round of nutrients to start his new crop.
It's the process of throwing away all of those nutrients, and then introducing brand new nutrients each crop that is leading to this accumulation. With organic growing you keep your soil healthy and happy and continually producing and with "chem nutes", you don't. You clean it out and start over.
I want to encourage and help support the use of organic fertilizers because it's a growing problem and we have scientifically identified a problem and a REASON not to use "chem nutes" in production farming. I understand though that chem nutes have changed everything and kept farming actually viable and the costs of our foods down. But I believe if everyone knew WHY it was actually bad instead of trying to claim the voodoo...."It's organic and so the produce is better" line of bullshit that NO ONE BELIEVES, we could actually make a change.
Tell someone their tomato is different if it's organic and they will taste both and any rational thinking person will decide "No it doesn't. I'll take the cheaper, bigger, healthier one". Tell them there's a REAL reason to support organic growers and maybe you can change some minds.
Anyway, this was a long rant (which I love to do high) and I didn't organize my thoughts and think out much, but you get the idea. I just felt that if I was going to get into an argument about organics vs chem nutes for growing MJ you should know that I am STRONGLY for organic growing and support organic growers.
Oh, and I would consider the same true about MJ (with the flushing of the nutes, they do end up somewhere) except most people throw away their soil. Indoor growing overall is just that way and so I don't believe that I waste more than I would if I used organics. Those that are outdoors and growing organically in the ground....I love you guys.
This is NOT because of the quality of the produce. The produce grown with inorganic fertilizers I generally find to be of better quality. They use pesticides to control bugs and they maximize on plant growth and healthiness. The problem is that growing with inorganic fertilizers has detrminental effects on the earth long term and the local farming communities in the very short term.
The use of inorganic fertilizers does lead to heavy metal contamination in the farming areas due to the accumulation of what are generally TRACE elements. These elements also exist when using organic fertilizers (or anything else that uses phosphate). If it accumulates a lot in the soil that's being used for growing it CAN build up in the produce as well.
The real problem is that nowadays the way farms are run using inorganic fertilizers the soil is "flushed" and the water drains away into our underground water tables or into our sewage system after each crop where it can obviously go and accumulate while the grower "upstairs" is adding a whole new round of nutrients to start his new crop.
It's the process of throwing away all of those nutrients, and then introducing brand new nutrients each crop that is leading to this accumulation. With organic growing you keep your soil healthy and happy and continually producing and with "chem nutes", you don't. You clean it out and start over.
I want to encourage and help support the use of organic fertilizers because it's a growing problem and we have scientifically identified a problem and a REASON not to use "chem nutes" in production farming. I understand though that chem nutes have changed everything and kept farming actually viable and the costs of our foods down. But I believe if everyone knew WHY it was actually bad instead of trying to claim the voodoo...."It's organic and so the produce is better" line of bullshit that NO ONE BELIEVES, we could actually make a change.
Tell someone their tomato is different if it's organic and they will taste both and any rational thinking person will decide "No it doesn't. I'll take the cheaper, bigger, healthier one". Tell them there's a REAL reason to support organic growers and maybe you can change some minds.
Anyway, this was a long rant (which I love to do high) and I didn't organize my thoughts and think out much, but you get the idea. I just felt that if I was going to get into an argument about organics vs chem nutes for growing MJ you should know that I am STRONGLY for organic growing and support organic growers.
Oh, and I would consider the same true about MJ (with the flushing of the nutes, they do end up somewhere) except most people throw away their soil. Indoor growing overall is just that way and so I don't believe that I waste more than I would if I used organics. Those that are outdoors and growing organically in the ground....I love you guys.
