johnthopmson13
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Texas pride while everyone else economy around is struggling texas is fairly good!!! Only change needed is the legalization of ganja
Obama Legilization of marijuana
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MexicanWarlord420
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Depending on what's going on with Iraq/Afghanistan and health care by 2012, I there's a possibility Obama would run on a decriminalization or legalization platform for his re-election.
Rob Roy
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Reagan was the man. The real thing. He predicted all of this too.4o years ago.... the dude.
Reagan's best line was "when government expands liberty contracts"...too bad the old geezer didn't mean it. He and his bitch wife ramped up the "war on drugs" . He was a hypocrite as most of them are.
JonnyBtreed
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Hey, Haven't always been a big Obama fan but... He did deprioritize the raiding of medicinal marijuana facilities and growing operations today...
Just another step in the right direction. Obama himself will never "legalize" weed. But as long as his cabinet and congress can see the money in it, it might be closer than you think. He doesn't want to hear " Oh yeah, we elect a black president and the first thing he does is legalize weed" I'm sure that's been a huge concern this whole time. As long as he doesn't have to speak in favor of it, and everyone under him does the work to let it pass, I honestly don't think he would veto Legalization do you?
This is a much bigger step than I think most people really see it as. What about next year when CA voters decide they want to legalize weed. You think Obama is going to go against the state with the largest amount of voters and reps in Congress? Then he'll sign something to the effect of, " Let the states handle Marijuana Policy as they see fit, I will not waste federal resources on it anymore". Then other states will see how much extra revenue CA is dragging in with the legalization, and they'll certainly want to hop on board. MA already has legalization bills going through the House committee's right now. Everybody wants a piece of the green
. We just need to keep patient and keep our chin up. Things are looking better and better every day.
Just another step in the right direction. Obama himself will never "legalize" weed. But as long as his cabinet and congress can see the money in it, it might be closer than you think. He doesn't want to hear " Oh yeah, we elect a black president and the first thing he does is legalize weed" I'm sure that's been a huge concern this whole time. As long as he doesn't have to speak in favor of it, and everyone under him does the work to let it pass, I honestly don't think he would veto Legalization do you?
This is a much bigger step than I think most people really see it as. What about next year when CA voters decide they want to legalize weed. You think Obama is going to go against the state with the largest amount of voters and reps in Congress? Then he'll sign something to the effect of, " Let the states handle Marijuana Policy as they see fit, I will not waste federal resources on it anymore". Then other states will see how much extra revenue CA is dragging in with the legalization, and they'll certainly want to hop on board. MA already has legalization bills going through the House committee's right now. Everybody wants a piece of the green
. We just need to keep patient and keep our chin up. Things are looking better and better every day.
Corn Fed 69
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I just saw ehis on my morning news, as a medical supplier and paitent I feel alot better about the thirty beauty's in my back yard finishing in my green house.IT'S ABOUT TIME!
JonnyBtreed
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Hopefully the rest of the country will be on board soon enough...
Corn Fed 69
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so jonny you must live in a dictator state,you have 14 states to choose from, like MT.
JonnyBtreed
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Oh, I'm in a real good state right now actually... No Med program, but lower penalties than CA. Cultivation up to 50lbs. is a misdemeanor here.
doctorD
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I just got this news. Its good to live in Hawaii
just released on the news:
By DEVLIN BARRETT, Associated Press Writer Devlin Barrett, Associated Press Writer – 1 hr 35 mins agoWASHINGTON –
Federal drug agents won't pursue pot-smoking patients or their sanctioned suppliers in states that allow... medical marijuana, under new legal guidelines to be issued Monday by the Obama administration.
Two Justice Department officials described the new policy to The Associated Press, saying prosecutors will be told it is not a good use of their time to arrest people who use or provide medical marijuana in strict compliance with state law
just released on the news:
By DEVLIN BARRETT, Associated Press Writer Devlin Barrett, Associated Press Writer – 1 hr 35 mins agoWASHINGTON –
Federal drug agents won't pursue pot-smoking patients or their sanctioned suppliers in states that allow... medical marijuana, under new legal guidelines to be issued Monday by the Obama administration.
Two Justice Department officials described the new policy to The Associated Press, saying prosecutors will be told it is not a good use of their time to arrest people who use or provide medical marijuana in strict compliance with state law
CrackerJax
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It's about time the feds back off.....
Dan Kone
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I don't think this will change much.
One problem I have with this is that there is still NOTHING in any law making it legal to sell to clubs. Clubs usually want at least a pound before they'll consider buying your stuff yet many counties allow you to posses no more than 1/2 a pound.
The laws are still rigged so cops can get cheap busts.
ford442
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hmm.. ok - again - how can the federal lawmakers prescribe pot directly to some people and also back states ability to decide if marijuana is medicine - meanwhile keeping pot a schedule 1 narcotic??? maybe this is a precursor to bringing it down a notch or two into the nationally doctor prescribe-able category...
i would rather see it off the list entirely - alcohol is not a scheduled drug correct? but, cough syrup containing codeine is sched 5....
wiki says that even sched 4's cannot be refilled more that 5 times in 6 months... it almost makes sense to make it sched 5 - but - "No controlled substance in schedule V which is a drug may be distributed or dispensed other than for a medical purpose."
so harumpf..
schudule 1....
worse than cocaine! worse than opium, PCP, meth!! way up the ladder from steroids and ketamine.. take some barbituates! a full step lower still..!
i'm getting this feeling that the whole system is about as accurate as the terror threat colors....
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Controlled_Substances_Act#cite_note-19
i would rather see it off the list entirely - alcohol is not a scheduled drug correct? but, cough syrup containing codeine is sched 5....
wiki says that even sched 4's cannot be refilled more that 5 times in 6 months... it almost makes sense to make it sched 5 - but - "No controlled substance in schedule V which is a drug may be distributed or dispensed other than for a medical purpose."
so harumpf..
schudule 1....
worse than cocaine! worse than opium, PCP, meth!! way up the ladder from steroids and ketamine.. take some barbituates! a full step lower still..! i'm getting this feeling that the whole system is about as accurate as the terror threat colors....
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Controlled_Substances_Act#cite_note-19
delta hi pip
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hey guys if you go to www.NORML.com there was a post listed today that says 1. that the vote of americans that was last taken said 51% said no and 46% said yes so its only a matter of time till its actually legal (probably within the next couple of years) and 2. that obama just passed a law saying that medical MJ dispensaries would not be seized as long as the state laws were being upheld but criminal growing will still be prosecuted
good news in my book
good news in my book
DubsFan
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The question still remains, How does a dispensary get its herb? The answer is, from vendors...growers. There is still a breakdown here. Dispensaries in Ca really struggle to keep up with the demands. They would need 5000sqft to support their op. I was in the office of a large dispensary in Orange County. He had 12p's in gym bag. He said that will last him a few days.
Dispensaries need vendors. Vendors need protection.
Dispensaries need vendors. Vendors need protection.
Yay now they can criminalize and tax aloe vera aswell. I mean honestly why do we accept them even saying its any sort of drug they are helping us dig our own grave is the way I see it.
They are making YOU admit its a DRUG when its just a plant. What they are doing is the same as banning aloe vera for a few years just so they can regulate and tax it later with laws and regulations when we all know its good for sun burn and its just a plant.
Never give them a inch or they will take you back a mile these people dont work for you they want aloe vera tax dollars thats all. I say dont give them that inch and say its not a DRUG its a PLANT that needs no regulation because GOD gets no regulation and there isnt even proof he exists yet this plant exists.
They are making YOU admit its a DRUG when its just a plant. What they are doing is the same as banning aloe vera for a few years just so they can regulate and tax it later with laws and regulations when we all know its good for sun burn and its just a plant.
Never give them a inch or they will take you back a mile these people dont work for you they want aloe vera tax dollars thats all. I say dont give them that inch and say its not a DRUG its a PLANT that needs no regulation because GOD gets no regulation and there isnt even proof he exists yet this plant exists.
OregonMeds
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You lost me at god but the aloe vera analogy was right, it would be exactly the same.
What needs to change isn't the plant part or the tax part or the legal part what needs to change is everyone controlling everyone else in society and being fucking nosy pricks thinking they have a right to tell you anything at all about what you can or can't put in your own mouth or your own fucking head. If you want to take a drug or get fucked in the ass or buy beer/wine after 2pm or stick your finger in a light socket and do assisted suicide practice on yourself for no good reason it's nobody's business but your own.
And yes there's no reason to tax every damn thing under the sun individually but maybe it's a stepping stone that's acceptable for now or should be from anyone on either side of the fence.
Fuck where's common sense... Repealing a tax would be fucking easy compared to going all the way to fully legal and free. It would be a far easier sell and could move progress along years ahead of when people would just finally wake up and legalize because it's right. It's dangling a carrot in front of the politicians and the people to prompt them to move sooner...
Just like throwing bribes.