Obama Legilization of marijuana

DubsFan said:

The question still remains, How does a dispensary get its herb? The answer is, from vendors...growers. There is still a breakdown here. Dispensaries in Ca really struggle to keep up with the demands. They would need 5000sqft to support their op. I was in the office of a large dispensary in Orange County. He had 12p's in gym bag. He said that will last him a few days.

Dispensaries need vendors. Vendors need protection.

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It's an intentional loophole designed to let cops get their busts. So is the fact that CA dispensaries must be "not for profit" even though dispensaries are making ridiculous profits. It encourages them to cook their books so cops have an excuse to bust them.

Leaving vendors open to busts and mandating that clubs can not make a profit provide no benefit to society what so ever. These are nothing more than traps so cops can keep screwing with people.

As much as I appreciate Obama and Holder's efforts on this it really doesn't matter what they say. Cops will continue to look for loopholes allowing them to bust people.

No laws have been changed here. If cops/DA's/etc want to bust people for medical marijuana they still absolutely can do so. Cops/DA's could care less about the will of the president or the people. They care about putting as many people in jail as possible. If that wasn't true, they'd have stopped busting people after prop 215/SB420 were passed.

Our best hope right now is Richard Lee's legalization bill that they are collecting signatures to get put on the ballot next summer. That bill actually protects everyone.

A legalization bill during an election year...I don't know bro. I would love to see it happen but we all know these men and women don't stand up for shit regarding MMJ.

Dan Kone said:

It's an intentional loophole designed to let cops get their busts. So is the fact that CA dispensaries must be "not for profit" even though dispensaries are making ridiculous profits.

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You dont have to cook the books to be non profit. all you do is pay yourself a nice salary to eat up the profits.

DubsFan said:

A legalization bill during an election year...I don't know bro. I would love to see it happen but we all know these men and women don't stand up for shit regarding MMJ.

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That's why it's on the ballot instead of being voted on in the state senate. That way all the spineless politicians don't have to have a public opinion about it.

Yes, a non profit is an entity that can have employees, presidents, VP's etc. Only a certain percentage of employees are allowed to earn a wage but you are correct. If there is money left over it can go into "reserves" or fund a pension for employees or be a bonus. Then you suddenly show no profit. I've been on the board of two non profits. None of us took pay because we didn't want to and the money wasn't there. But I learned alot about how they run.

A non profit can buy you a ticket to Brazil if you run a charity there. If you want to know how come up on a non profit just look at Rev Jesse Jackson. What church does he preach at??? None.

ok i dont mean to sound mean in anyway... but they do tax aloe vera. i mean if you grow it yourself then they dont do anything but if you go to the store you can see any aloe vera material being taxed. i understand the analogy but i mean if you think about it, wouldnt you be fine paying a liitle bit of tax so that this amazing palnt would be legalized. i mean if it is then even if you get caught with 100 plants then the consequences wouldnt be anywhere near the price you would pay for being caught with 1 single plant. im sorry if i offended anyone that is just my oppinion

Leaglize it

obamas a joke, nothing will happen with him in office.......maybe someone should shorten his term...

xXMaslanXx said:

obamas a joke, nothing will happen with him in office.......maybe someone should shorten his term...

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Not cool dude. This is a democracy. People get the leaders they deserve. Regardless of how bad you might think he is, he got fairly elected so we deserve what ever good/bad things he does, just like Bush.

Not a good implication there. Just because you don't care for him doesn't make that any less treasonous if someone were to "shorten his term". Don't like him? Volunteer to help get his opponent elected in 2012. That's how it's done here.

i dont see why the goverment just doesnt produce it and sell it, all they have to do is price it lowe but still tax it, im sorry but if i could get weed like a pack of cigarettes, like 20 joints for 20 bucks, im sorry but then drug dealers couldnt compete

tater7808 said:

i dont see why the goverment just doesnt produce it and sell it, all they have to do is price it lowe but still tax it, im sorry but if i could get weed like a pack of cigarettes, like 20 joints for 20 bucks, im sorry but then drug dealers couldnt compete

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I'm not so sure the government could produce and sell it more efficiently and still get high quality. When was the last time the government did anything efficiently and correctly?

Even if they could, everyone would cry socialism if they did that.

tater7808 said:

i dont see why the goverment just doesnt produce it and sell it, all they have to do is price it lowe but still tax it, im sorry but if i could get weed like a pack of cigarettes, like 20 joints for 20 bucks, im sorry but then drug dealers couldnt compete

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a dollar a joint thats crazy i wouldnt pay for that. if they legalize it ima still be growin my own

ide pay a dollar per joint...

it does but doesnt really matter if hes the only one that says no. . . what if < yea what if, everyone important says it SHOULD be legal and it gets to him and he veto's it it doesnt completely cancel it out does it?. . . .

I think Obama is a much better president than Bush, but he has a clean start and bush don't. Only problem is that he is the typical negroid and that means they usually promise things, but will loaft on it because he is already in the office. I guess we will see some legalization in year 2015 .....FAIL

tater7808 said:

i dont see why the goverment just doesnt produce it and sell it, all they have to do is price it lowe but still tax it, im sorry but if i could get weed like a pack of cigarettes, like 20 joints for 20 bucks, im sorry but then drug dealers couldnt compete

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Government allready produces it and taxes it........

And we are not drug dealers the laws calls us drug dealers we are no different then strawberry farmers.


Its a plant like aloe vera people! Dang no wounder we cant win the fight its because we give in on their own propaganda to make our selves just.

Drug dealers dont exist accept in the form of CVS ,wallgreens and the sorts. They want to create everything you use if you could use stuff from this earth then you might care about it and they cant have that.

oAUSTiNo said:

it does but doesnt really matter if hes the only one that says no. . . what if < yea what if, everyone important says it SHOULD be legal and it gets to him and he veto's it it doesnt completely cancel it out does it?. . . .

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congress can override a presidential veto.... or impeach him

JonnyBtreed said:

congress can override a presidential veto.... or impeach him

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That depends on what your definition of "is" is.

Someone said: "Only problem is that he is the typical negroid"

No, but you are the typical racist.

OregonMeds said:

Someone said: "Only problem is that he is the typical negroid"

No, but you are the typical racist.

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I'm no fan of Obama but if someone called him a Negroid that's pretty lame. I don't know if this dude is on the right or not but it makes him sound just as dumb as the oblivious portion of the left that supports a child rapist in Polanski...both are totally out of touch and shouldn't be acknowledged moving forward.

Regarding "is." That is a reference to a part of President Clintons defense with the Lewinski case. He litterally did say "that depends on what you're def of "is" is. Yeah it's vauge but it coult be argued.

I would love to have Slick back in office. It just goes to show that you have to give a president a good 10+ years after he leaves office to determine what stamp he left. I feel his economy was bunk (see Y2K, it was the tech build up folks) but he like Reagan brought a level of invisibility to our nation. He could talk his way out of a concrete bunker and fuck your wife while leaving you happy and smiling. Sounds a bit over the top but if you're the President of the USA pulling shit out of your ass is S.O.P.

I have issues with Bush but I give him a hall pass on a lot of shit due to Sept 11...especially regarding spending. Has an analysis been done regarding his overspending in relation to anti terror? Sure that term is open for debate but if we used some intellectual honesty I think you will see that a lot of his deficit spending was on some crazy terror shit. Okay some $400 toilet seats included.

Whether you agree with Iraq or not, we can all agree that those insurgents are really fucking busy in the middle east and not trying to bomb us. Consider Irag a really big fucking distraction. I'm from San Diego. A big military county. These kids want to shoot people. They don't care who. The older troops want to be home and rightfully so. The young guns want more guns.

Just some sensless rambling.

DubsFan said:

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Regarding "is." That is a reference to a part of President Clintons defense with the Lewinski case. He litterally did say "that depends on what you're def of "is" is. Yeah it's vauge but it coult be argued.

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right on, had a little brainfart there for a second.