Is EZ cloner worth it??

[SlikWiLL13]

I agree with Slikwill, however, I wouldn't plan on learning much about hydroponics through using a homemade aero-cloner. I mean yes you will become more familiar with what makes up hydro systems, but as far as the actual use I would say no. My reason being that you should really only have to use ph-adjusted water that's had time to sit and have the chlorine removed. You don't really get invloved with ppm measurement or anything like that.

ph means nothing to clones. the tiny amounts of chlorine in your tap water helps to disinfect the cloning chamber.

so what about learning? read a book. how do you clone in order to get the most cranial stimulation?

 

[Twistedfunk]

I made a small one and it works. it isn't faster than rockwool in a humidity dome (in my experience) but i cut/carve/dip/put it in the cloner and ignore it for a week or two. No spraying or worrying about humidity and it cost me about 10-15$. I think i will get a stronger air pump but they are cheap so its no big deal.

 

[Twistedfunk]

build your own unless your some pot diva who doesnt like to get thier hands dirty.

or unless you are a patient who doesn't have the capacity to take on such a project. personally, I have to wait for "good" days to do anything. with any luck, i might be able to spray down my plants with azatrol today...sucks that im a week late on it. so for some of us, it isn't about getting our hands dirty, its about being able to use them

 

[SlikWiLL13]

or unless you are a patient who doesn't have the capacity to take on such a project. personally, I have to wait for "good" days to do anything. with any luck, i might be able to spray down my plants with azatrol today...sucks that im a week late on it. so for some of us, it isn't about getting our hands dirty, its about being able to use them

my apoligies to the patients. the left side of my dick for the divas.

 

[That 5hit]

less then $25 all from walmart

make one even cheaper useing DWC method
no water pump
no sprayers
all you need is a tote (not a clear one) the size depends on the amount of clone you need but a 10gal is fine
and an air pump the kind used in fish tanks you can get this at walmart $12
and an air stone the long blue one is gr8 get this at walmart the fish department less then $3
and an air tube used to connect the pump and stone also less then $3

fill tote with ph'd water
place in air stone and turn on pump ( dont put pump in water)
cut small holes in the lid with heavy duty box cutter
place in cutting (soon tobe clones) stems should be below the top of water, wait 3-10 days and they should root
the bubbles from the air stone supply oxygen to the root system or to make one. With this system rootgel is an option but wont hurt to use. Make sure the holes in lid are big enuff to pull out stem and root system when they are ready and all so find a way to support the stem of the clone while in the cloner

gr8 video everthing can be picked up from walmart
the black hose is optional the clear will do
abox cutter will work just as good as a drill
duct tape can replace the black spray paint
this video shows you how to make a cloner
[youtube]9yy5kJwdMv8[/youtube]

 

[avalanche]

I agree with Slikwill, however, I wouldn't plan on learning much about hydroponics through using a homemade aero-cloner. I mean yes you will become more familiar with what makes up hydro systems, but as far as the actual use I would say no. My reason being that you should really only have to use ph-adjusted water that's had time to sit and have the chlorine removed. You don't really get invloved with ppm measurement or anything like that.

Ummmmm....I won't learn anything about growing hydroponically...growing hydroponically...what the??? Ya gotta love the people who love to disagree with someone over absolutley anything. Even if it doesn't make sense!!lol...

 

[avalanche]

ph means nothing to clones. the tiny amounts of chlorine in your tap water helps to disinfect the cloning chamber.

so what about learning? read a book. how do you clone in order to get the most cranial stimulation?

I think maybe you'v read too many books thinking that PH doesn't matter with clones. You really have to weed out te comments and advice people spit out on these forums here. I'd much rather learn hands on actually doing it then reading a book thinking about how I'm going to do it. Just me though..

p.s. some "advice" for yourself; It might be a good idea for you to take your cranial stimulation book and a picnic basket to the local park and go fly a kite. thanks though.

 

[SlikWiLL13]

I think maybe you'v read too many books thinking that PH doesn't matter with clones. You really have to weed out te comments and advice people spit out on these forums here. I'd much rather learn hands on actually doing it then reading a book thinking about how I'm going to do it. Just me though..

p.s. some "advice" for yourself; It might be a good idea for you to take your cranial stimulation book and a picnic basket to the local park and go fly a kite. thanks though.

i dont read grow books thank you very much, a decades worth of experience is all the reference i need. i wasnt directing him towards a grow book either, just a book in general to further ones knowkedge.

so do i have magic clones that dont have a ph preference? the water i give them is usually about 7.5 straight out of the tap, no problems. cuts dont uptake nutes, only water so ph isnt neccesary because there are no nutes to lock out(you do know thats why we ph adjust, right?).

the park and a kite?!? WTF?

fucking newbooty ass members.

Welcome To RIU

 

[avalanche]

so do i have magic clones that dont have a ph preference? the water i give them is usually about 7.5 straight out of the tap, no problems. cuts dont uptake nutes, only water so ph isnt neccesary because there are no nutes to lock out(you do know thats why we ph adjust, right?).

That is the most ridiculous thing i've heard on here..OF couyrse your ph matters even when their cuttings. So does your ppm dummy. Show me one experienced grower that says PH doesn't matter w. clones.
Assuming that is true, you do realize that if you got the right PH levels on your clones they would grow much more vigorousaly.

What exactly do you think is in water?? After 5,000 posts You still don't know that there is calcium,magnesium,potassium, sodium ect ect. in all water. Some water sources more than others ie. well vs. urban tap. You can stunt/retard growth with to high ph or ppm just from your water.


the park and a kite?!? WTF?

Yes, Kite - Usually diamond shaped nylon connected to string that floats in air with the wind.
park- where one goes with his family/friends to socially interact with others.
Instead of posting over 5,000 times on "RIU " maybe you should go check one out sometime??


fucking newbooty ass members.
Welcome To RIU
Thats just pretty gay dude...not the badass you were going for I think...

 

[SlikWiLL13]

there really is an increasing number of idiots joining up these days.

unsubscribed.

 

[cinna]

are the roots submerged in water? you really ignore for a week or two? i use seed mats and trays with domes. i lose many of the clone. do you have a high success rate with your cloner? any advice or comments would be much appreciated.

 

[sfttailpaul]

I think the biggest reason people do NOT have a good success rate is that they saturate the exposed stem with too much water and they also use nutrient and rooting agents in their water and then add a fan just to keep things cool. Low heat fluorescent lighting, no breeze and pH-ed water @ 5.5-5.8 with nothing else added. This combo seems to work best for me. A dome is mandatory until some decent roots appear. The cutting gets water from the moisture through the leaflets in the dome, until it gets it from a root system. Then add nutrients, etc. to the water, take off the dome and add ventilation. I mist the root area 2 X daily, that's 12 hours apart, and then for only 15 minutes. PLUG 'n' GROW makes a Cycle Timer Controller that operates ON from 30 seconds to 30 minutes and OFF from 1 minute to 12 hours. It also has a photo eye and can operate during daylight only or 24/7. The MSRP (2011) is >$100.00 but well worth it if one wants pin-point accuracy and quick change versatility. Ideally, I'd mist the freshly cut cuttings for 30 seconds ON and progressively (x3days each @10-8-then 6 hours) OFF, round the clock. I only have the 15 minutes ON because it is the minimum I can set on a $5 timer. Oh, it is their model #IGS-011 (no display) & # IGS-011L (w/ display and more $'s). Most Hydro shops should have it or be able to order it. PM me if you cannot find it through your normal source.

 

[roidrage152]

I've had pretty much 100% success rate with my cloner. The speed at which you get roots varies greatly based on strain. I've heard of roots within several days showing in the EZcloner, however in EZclone or dome, it takes me like 14 days. The good thing about the EZ cloner is I do ignore it for days or a week at a time. Even if conditions stray from ideal, I always get roots eventually. With a dome you have to vent it daily, and check moisture. Ideally you should regularly monitor temps and PH in the rez for the cloner

 

[superjet]

i'm having 100% success with my small (24 site) turbo kloner. i just use tap water (400-500 ppm here in vegas) ph'd to 5.5 and will let drift to 6.0 before adjusting back down. i don't sweat the chloine either, i kinda think it helps control slime which i never see. i do a water change at one week and that's when i start to see roots, i'll then give them one more week and they're then ready for transplant into coco. no rooting hormones either, just tap water.