Clones
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terrorizer805
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Yes you can I do it no problem. They have the same genetics as the original plant.
XxNinjaxX
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Cloning a clone is a debatable subject..
Sum ppl believe that you should always keep a mother plant that was grown from seed, and continue to clone from it.
Other's believe you can clone a clone, then clone that and so on..
Problem with Scenario 1: You need a large area to keep a mother plant in constant vegetative state, and after so long more and more of the plant is turned to Hard-Wood, also it is believed that the Mother plant then becomes thrashed for clones after too many cutting are removed from it and it loses it's potency.
Problem with Scenario 2: After (X) amount of times it can cause the genetics in the plant to break down.. Leading to deformities, reduced yield and poor plant health..
B4 any1 jumps on my back for this info - it's merely Opinion i am stating here, and they are not that of my own, but just the general consensus amongst growers i know.
Personally i clone a few seasons off 1 strain and change to another strain b4 the genetics are given time to breakdown..
(I have heard of people who perfected a strain 15yrs ago and continue to clone off clones with no genetic breakdown).
Sum ppl believe that you should always keep a mother plant that was grown from seed, and continue to clone from it.
Other's believe you can clone a clone, then clone that and so on..
Problem with Scenario 1: You need a large area to keep a mother plant in constant vegetative state, and after so long more and more of the plant is turned to Hard-Wood, also it is believed that the Mother plant then becomes thrashed for clones after too many cutting are removed from it and it loses it's potency.
Problem with Scenario 2: After (X) amount of times it can cause the genetics in the plant to break down.. Leading to deformities, reduced yield and poor plant health..
B4 any1 jumps on my back for this info - it's merely Opinion i am stating here, and they are not that of my own, but just the general consensus amongst growers i know.
Personally i clone a few seasons off 1 strain and change to another strain b4 the genetics are given time to breakdown..
(I have heard of people who perfected a strain 15yrs ago and continue to clone off clones with no genetic breakdown).
terrorizer805
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I'm cloning from clones and so far so good , my clones look very healthy.
That 5hit
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i have herd these
I have heard of people who have cloned a strain 15yrs ago and continue to clone off clones with no problem, also
the gene breakdown has never been proven
How long should I wait to clone my clone
terrorizer805
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I waited 4 weeks until I took some cuttings, I had them vegging under a 400w HPS though so they grew really fast.
How big is the clone you want to take cuttings from?
Well it's about 6inches but I don't wanna clone it yet I was just curious
tyke1973
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I have been struggleing for space so i don't keep mother plants any more.I clone the plant that is going in the flowering room and keep the others under 4 4ft flouresents and 4 cfls the cfls are for heat because i like the tubes to be has near too the top of the plant has possible cool tubes can near touch the plants without burning them.The cfl's i have are wall mounted and add a little warmth to the grow area this is needed to keep the clones happy.After about 3/4 week you will have to top the clones to stop them getting too big.Then i re~peat the process after the flowering of the set that are on flower have done.But always take clones from the bottom of the plants i take them from where i lollypop the plant any how this way you will not be takeing valuble bud sites.
anon1122
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find a way to cover your rockwool, algae can grow on it really easily, esp under a HID lamp.
like this topic, +rep to OP
what's interesting is the issue of how long you can clone a clone of a clone of ...
doesn't seem to be a good answer, i'm interested because space is a premium for me and a mother takes up a lot of space
but you do often see the statement that the genetics begin to have problems
i don't doubt that some have had problems with clone of clone of clone, i do believe they have seen plants with problems
but ascribing the genetics seems like a stretch - how do you know it's genetics?
any number of issues could arise - if there is some test for genetic issues that is doable by a grower with modest means, i'd love to know what it is
what's interesting is the issue of how long you can clone a clone of a clone of ...
doesn't seem to be a good answer, i'm interested because space is a premium for me and a mother takes up a lot of space
but you do often see the statement that the genetics begin to have problems
i don't doubt that some have had problems with clone of clone of clone, i do believe they have seen plants with problems
but ascribing the genetics seems like a stretch - how do you know it's genetics?
any number of issues could arise - if there is some test for genetic issues that is doable by a grower with modest means, i'd love to know what it is
terrorizer805
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I really doubt genetic breakdown even occurs until a very long time the cuttings will always have the same gentic backround as the original plant, why? or how? Because it's the same exact plant only difference is you cut a piece off of it and begin to grow in a different pot, once full grown it is the same plant as the original mother then you can take a clone from that one and reapeat. IMO I don't think genetics break down because every clone you grow is the same plant as the original mother you haven't altered it or anything just the same old plant as before.
Just my opinion.