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[Mammath]

The 2 MN's got flushed last night, with a little peroxide in the last quart to go through. There's no change today. If the problem was root rot it probably just got worse. Only time will tell. I plan to let them dry out good before I water again.

Hey cph.
Saw you over at tahoe's thread and thought I'd come take a look at your problem to see if i could help.
By the looks of it it's moisture stress which of course can lead to root rot.
Cupping, saggy leaves, stunted yellow/white new growth and limp stems.

You have them in some nice size pots but that can make it hard to get your watering schedule correct when they are so little.

I would stop watering for at least a week to ten days.
Plants take ages to recover from moisture stress.
If you have a helper handy turn one over and lift the pot off it.
Inspect soil for mush and have a smell.
If it's rotten you'll know.
If your game, scrape away excess soil from bottom and sides being careful not to break too many roots, you only need to take away and inch or so of soil from sides and bottom.
Then re-pot into same pot but with fresh dry soil on the bottom and sides.
This will soak up the water from the over moist soil and give the roots some badly needed oxygenated soil to grow into.

I've saved moisture stressed plants before by doing this.

With those lights and those size plants in those size pots, even with well drained soil, they probably only needed watering once a week to 10 days.
MJ likes it drier than wetter.
The flush probably hasn't helped matters.

Keep us posted.

Edit: They'll come good mate, I've seen worse recover, and MJ is pretty darn tough

 

[cph]

Hey cph.
Saw you over at tahoe's thread and thought I'd come take a look at your problem to see if i could help.
By the looks of it it's moisture stress which of course can lead to root rot.
Cupping, saggy leaves, stunted yellow/white new growth and limp stems.

You have them in some nice size pots but that can make it hard to get your watering schedule correct when they are so little.

I would stop watering for at least a week to ten days.
Plants take ages to recover from moisture stress.
If you have a helper handy turn one over and lift the pot off it.
Inspect soil for mush and have a smell.
If it's rotten you'll know.
If your game, scrape away excess soil from bottom and sides being careful not to break too many roots, you only need to take away and inch or so of soil from sides and bottom.
Then re-pot into same pot but with fresh dry soil on the bottom and sides.
This will soak up the water from the over moist soil and give the roots some badly needed oxygenated soil to grow into.

I've saved moisture stressed plants before by doing this.

With those lights and those size plants in those size pots, even with well drained soil, they probably only needed watering once a week to 10 days.
MJ likes it drier than wetter.
The flush probably hasn't helped matters.

Keep us posted.

Edit: They'll come good mate, I've seen worse recover, and MJ is pretty darn tough

Thanks for taking the time to help!!! I thought I was letting them dry out good... Maybe not. We'll see what a few extra days without water does. One of them seems to dry out a lot slower than the others. I might have to try to replace some of the soil in that one.

 

[Mammath]

Yeah it's still a bit of a weird one mate.
Usually stems don't get that fat when you over water but your foliage and new growth definitely makes me think moisture stress.
They should come good just need a little time.

 

[mcone]

Thought I'd stop by since it has been awhile, dang man.. Tough luck, hopefully drying out will breath vigor and life into them.. Cheers.

 

[cph]

Thanks for the visit mcone!! I'm hoping it works... It's not all bad though, the PJ is looking good!!

 

[Twils]

Thanks for the visit mcone!! I'm hoping it works... It's not all bad though, the PJ is looking good!!

Looking real good my friend! Keep it up!

Burn on!

 

[cph]

Nice to see ya Twils! I hoping for great things from her!!

 

[slabhead]

Hell Yeah! Man I hope it's a girl. Sure is pretty. Did only one PJ make it?

 

[cph]

Hell Yeah! Man I hope it's a girl. Sure is pretty. Did only one PJ make it?

Yes. Only 1.... But she sure is happy!! I looked in on her last night and she seems to improve on a daily basis. It's the MN (mystery nugs) that are sick. I haven't notice any improvement on them, but it does seems that the soil is not drying out nearly fast enough.

Thanks for the visit!!

 

[cph]

I'll start with the MN (mystery nug). I haven't watered them in about 7 days, and probably won't for 2 more days. They seem to be doing better. You can tell better in the first pic than the rest. They have also still been growing in this time, not much but a little.

 

[cph]

Both of these are doing very well!!

It's been 6 days since these 2 have been watered, they don't seem to mind a bit. The WW is going to make it, and have 3 tops by the looks of it. Since I cut back on the water she has really taken off!! Kinda small for 30 days but ALIVE!! HAHA!

The PJ is loving the dry spell as well!! Starting to get some good secondary growth. I've been hoping for pre-flowers but it's still to early. She is just starting to work on node 7. You'll notice the spots on the leafs..... It seems to be from water that splashed on the leaf and the nutes in the water burned her.

 

[Mammath]

yeah the MN still look pretty weird even though they're still growing.
I wouldn't water them again until they start drooping but you need to keep a constant eye on them to do that.
Another thing I thought of is have you done a PH test on your soil?
Do you PH the water you feed them with?
High leaf ridges usually indicates PH is off, and therefore you may have some form of lock out going on too.
I know all your plants are in the same mix of soil but different strains will respond differently.

Edit: Others are looking great. Especially the PJ, love that branching mate.
MJ does like it drier than wetter.

 

[cph]

yeah they still look pretty weird even though they're still growing.
I wouldn't water them again until they start drooping but you need to keep a constant eye on them to do that.
Another thing I thought of is have you done a PH test on your soil?
Do you PH the water you feed them with?
High leaf ridges usually indicates PH is off, and therefore you may have some form of lock out going on too.
I know all your plants are in the same mix of soil but different strains will respond differently.

I haven't checked the PH. I know I should. The water is from the tap and has sat for 24 hours.

Question on PH. (I'm still pretty new at this) Would checking the water run off after watering be considered a soil check? Or should I get a soil tester?

I figured they would react different, I just didn't expect this... It's all about learning though!

 

[Mammath]

I haven't checked the PH. I know I should. The water is from the tap and has sat for 24 hours.

Question on PH. (I'm still pretty new at this) Would checking the water run off after watering be considered a soil check? Or should I get a soil tester?

I figured they would react different, I just didn't expect this... It's all about learning though!

I think checking the PH run off is a good start if you have a PH meter handy.
Check the water before you feed as well so you have something to gauge the difference.
The soil test kits are really cheap.

 

[cph]

Thanks for the input!! I don't have one but I think I'll fix that problem soon.

 

[Mammath]

From my experience when growing in soil I never used to worry about PH'ing the water.
Soil is a lot more forgiving that other mediums when it come to the PH of your water.
I did however always try to make sure may soil was around 6.5 to 7.0 though.
I think a soil PH test kit is what you need to begin with.
I think you can even get ones with probes you stick into the soil that will also measure moisture as well.
Also check your nutes for Sulfur, Iron and Zinc content.
When plants lack that they will yellow from the inside out like the MN is doing.
Keep us posted. All the best.

 

[slabhead]

Dude it looks like that PJ has got Kush in the genes. Some heavy indica badass clones there. Great job with it. When you gonna sex it looks big enough?

 

[cph]

Dude it looks like that PJ has got Kush in the genes. Some heavy indica badass clones there. Great job with it. When you gonna sex it looks big enough?

I'm thinking about letting it sex itself. I'll probably keep her in veg and clone off of her for awhile. Depending on how the cloning goes I may flower her and keep a clone as a mom. Only time will tell.

A purple x kush, that would be sweeeet!!!

 

[Dr. Greenhorn]

Looking good man

 

[cph]

Looking good man

Thanks for the visit Doc!!