chemtrails my ass

doobnVA

doobnVA

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Hey Jax,

It's not MY picture, I just ganked it off google images. The person who took the photo tagged it "halo cloud". Looks like a ring to me (see the darker grey inside the circle? Yeah, jackass, that's not part of the cloud), obviously it looked like a ring to the person who was STANDING UNDER IT TAKING A PICTURE.:wall:
 
medicineman

medicineman

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doobnVA said:
Cloudy weather happens everywhere. It can't be sunny every day.

No, you're not imagining the trails, but you are imagining the cause of the trails.

I live directly under a flight path of planes landing at the nearby (commercial) airport. I see these trails ALL THE TIME, from ALL KINDS of aircraft. When the moisture in the air is near saturation (aka high humidity, which is very common where I live), the trails can linger for HOURS. Other aircraft pass through the trails and cause them to expand. If the air is particularly dry, the trails will rapidly dissipate.

What I'd suggest to you, to ease your fears, is that you start keeping a journal of these events. Every time you see one of these "chemtrails", note the temperature, humidity level, barometer, dewpoint, whether it's cloudy or clear, etc.

You'll see that the lingering effect of these trails corresponds directly to the atmospheric conditions at the time.
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Uhhh, Look, I'm 68 and grew up here. These criss cross clouds only started a few years ago and have increased on a steady basis. I've watched these cloudy days increase with extreme frequency whereas a few years back we had mostly hot sunny days, we now have shitty man induced cloud cover. THis may be conspiracy to you, bur it is reality to me. So, can you disprove it. BTW, average humidity in Vegas is about 10%, not a likely cause of clouds. Clouds used to come from outside the valley, not originate in it. You can sit outside and watch the planes flying these crisscross patterns and see the clouds forming, it takes a few hours, but they will completely fill trhe sky, shitty man made clouds. BTW, I've observed contrails. They usually last a few minutes. These chemtrails spread out and form clouds. Maybe you need some first hand experience. I invite you to come to Vegas, spend a week and observe, then get back to me.
 
doobnVA

doobnVA

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medicineman said:
Uhhh, Look, I'm 68 and grew up here. These criss cross clouds only started a few years ago and have increased on a steady basis. I've watched these cloudy days increase with extreme frequency whereas a few years back we had mostly hot sunny days, we now have shitty man induced cloud cover. THis may be conspiracy to you, bur it is reality to me. So, can you disprove it. BTW, average humidity in Vegas is about 10%, not a likely cause of clouds. Clouds used to come from outside the valley, not originate in it. You can sit outside and watch the planes flying these crisscross patterns and see the clouds forming, it takes a few hours, but they will completely fill trhe sky, shitty man made clouds. BTW, I've observed contrails. They usually last a few minutes. These chemtrails spread out and form clouds. Maybe you need some first hand experience. I invite you to come to Vegas, spend a week and observe, then get back to me.
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[FONT=Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]Average Relative Humidity:[/FONT] Las Vegas Relative Humidity (Morning) 39% Las Vegas Relative Humidity (Afternoon) 21%
[FONT=Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]Relative Humidity by Month (Percentage)[/FONT] Morning Jan. Feb. Mar. Apr. May. Jun. Jul. Aug. Sep. Oct. Nov. Dec.
55% 52% 45% 35% 32% 24% 28% 34% 34% 36% 46% 53%
Afternoon
32% 28% 22% 16% 14% 11% 15% 17% 17% 20% 26% 32%​
 
doobnVA

doobnVA

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medicineman said:
Uhhh, Look, I'm 68 and grew up here. These criss cross clouds only started a few years ago and have increased on a steady basis. I've watched these cloudy days increase with extreme frequency whereas a few years back we had mostly hot sunny days, we now have shitty man induced cloud cover. THis may be conspiracy to you, bur it is reality to me. So, can you disprove it. BTW, average humidity in Vegas is about 10%, not a likely cause of clouds. Clouds used to come from outside the valley, not originate in it. You can sit outside and watch the planes flying these crisscross patterns and see the clouds forming, it takes a few hours, but they will completely fill trhe sky, shitty man made clouds. BTW, I've observed contrails. They usually last a few minutes. These chemtrails spread out and form clouds. Maybe you need some first hand experience. I invite you to come to Vegas, spend a week and observe, then get back to me.
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[FONT=Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]Average Relative Humid[/FONT]
10% average humidity? According to whom?

http://www.cityrating.com/cityhumidity.asp?City=Las+Vegas

http://www.met.utah.edu/jhorel/html/wx/climate/rh.html





Weather patterns change. Just because it's cloudy when it used to be sunny, doesn't mean it's due to manmade causes.

 
medicineman

medicineman

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doobnVA said:
[FONT=Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]Average Relative Humidity:[/FONT] Las Vegas Relative Humidity (Morning) 39% Las Vegas Relative Humidity (Afternoon) 21%
[FONT=Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]Relative Humidity by Month (Percentage)[/FONT] Morning Jan. Feb. Mar. Apr. May. Jun. Jul. Aug. Sep. Oct. Nov. Dec.
55% 52% 45% 35% 32% 24% 28% 34% 34% 36% 46% 53%
Afternoon
32% 28% 22% 16% 14% 11% 15% 17% 17% 20% 26% 32%​
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OK, it's still low, and it hits the 10% mark more than listed in these examples. I've seen as low as 6%. These are averages. I still stand by my statement that Las Vegas doesn't make clouds, they come in from the west usually, except in monsoon where they come from the south. These new clouds are manmade. come see for yourself. There is just not enough moisture in Vegas to make clouds, over the lake maybe.
 
doobnVA

doobnVA

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medicineman said:
OK, it's still low, and it hits the 10% mark more than listed in these examples. I've seen as low as 6%. These are averages. I still stand by my statement that Las Vegas doesn't make clouds, they come in from the west usually, except in monsoon where they come from the south. These new clouds are manmade. come see for yourself. There is just not enough moisture in Vegas to make clouds, over the lake maybe.
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Who said anything about clouds? We're talking about "chemtrails", which are NOT clouds.
 
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NoDrama

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doobnVA said:
Cloudy weather happens everywhere. It can't be sunny every day.

No, you're not imagining the trails, but you are imagining the cause of the trails.

I live directly under a flight path of planes landing at the nearby (commercial) airport. I see these trails ALL THE TIME, from ALL KINDS of aircraft. When the moisture in the air is near saturation (aka high humidity, which is very common where I live), the trails can linger for HOURS. Other aircraft pass through the trails and cause them to expand. If the air is particularly dry, the trails will rapidly dissipate.

What I'd suggest to you, to ease your fears, is that you start keeping a journal of these events. Every time you see one of these "chemtrails", note the temperature, humidity level, barometer, dewpoint, whether it's cloudy or clear, etc.

You'll see that the lingering effect of these trails corresponds directly to the atmospheric conditions at the time.
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Any aircraft can make a vapor trail, the difference is how long a vapor trail will stick around, 15 mins usually before the vapor has been eliminated. The chem sprays take hours and hours to dissipate, these ARE NOT NORMAL for aircraft of any kind!
 
doobnVA

doobnVA

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NoDrama said:
Any aircraft can make a vapor trail, the difference is how long a vapor trail will stick around, 15 mins usually before the vapor has been eliminated. The chem sprays take hours and hours to dissipate, these ARE NOT NORMAL for aircraft of any kind!
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NoDrama, obviously you missed my post where I stated that I LIVE directly under the flight path of the nearby airport?

Commercial jets OFTEN leave vapor trails that persist in the sky for HOURS, depending on the atmospheric conditions at the time. If it's dry, the vapor trails dissipate rapidly. If the air is already saturated with moisture, the vapor trails will persist for MUCH longer.

Are you insinuating that these commercial airliners are involved in the practice of spraying chemical agents into the air, since I witness these vapor trails persisting on a fairly regular basis?

Contrails are all made of the same materials and are formed in the same way, but exist for different lengths of time. Because of the differences in contrail "life-spans", contrails can be divided into three groups: short-lived, persistent (non-spreading), and persistent spreading. See the Contrail Formation Guide for more information on how contrails form.

[SIZE=+1] Short-lived contrails look like short white lines following along behind the plane, disappearing almost as fast as the airplane goes across the sky, perhaps lasting only a few minutes or less. The air that the airplane is passing through is somewhat moist, and there is only a small amount of water vapor available to form a contrail. The ice particles that do form quickly return again to a vapor state.

Persistent (non-spreading) contrails look like long white lines that remain visible after the airplane has disappeared. This shows that the air where the airplane is flying is quite humid, and there is a large amount of water vapor available to form a contrail. Persistent contrails can be further divided into two classes: those that spread and those that don't. Persistent contrails look like long, narrow white pencil-lines across the sky.

Persistent spreading contrails
look like long, broad, fuzzy white lines. This is the type most likely to affect climate because they cover a larger area and last longer than short-lived or persistent contrails.
Contrail cousins are things that look like contrails but actually arise from a different physical process. For example, under the right conditions you will see vapor trails form from the wingtips of a jet on takeoff or landing. This phenomenon results from a decrease in pressure and temperature in the wingtip vortex. If conditions are right, liquid water drops form inside the vortex and make it visible. These evaporate very quickly after they form.





http://asd-www.larc.nasa.gov/GLOBE/science.html
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doobnVA

doobnVA

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Now I'm just going to sit back and wait for all the armchair physicists to claim NASA doesn't know anything about this subject. In 3, 2.....
 
doobnVA

doobnVA

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Um, no. I didn't create the image or format the web site I found it on, I just cut and pasted it here exactly as I found it. If you have a problem with the formatting and sizing, I apologize, but I am not responsible for either of those things.

I removed the image so you don't have to side scroll. Does this please you, your majesty?
 
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fdd2blk

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doobnVA said:
Um, no. I didn't create the image or format the web site I found it on, I just cut and pasted it here exactly as I found it. If you have a problem with the formatting and sizing, I apologize, but I am not responsible for either of those things.

I removed the image so you don't have to side scroll. Does this please you, your majesty?
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YOU copied it. YOU brought it here. YOU pasted it to your post. YOU are responsible for me having to side scroll.


jesus fucking christ what is wrong with you?


:wall:


my majesty? i don't get it.
 
mkay420

mkay420

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FDD are you a lil cranky today? do you need your meds? ill sendyou some if you really need em but i was under the impression you were THE man when it comes to marijuana so im sure that there must be another reason for the irritability today... sorry if im bein an ass myself. just seemed out of character for you.
 
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