Grow tent 600w hps hydro under construction

smokingrubber

smokingrubber

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anon1122 said:
That is the tent I wish I would have gotten. The one I got is cheap and has almost NO support for any kind of weight.

That hydro system looks solid though. Should be able to grow some TREES with that. Im going small for my first one though using the hydrofarm.

I raised the lights up. All 3 have cracked, 2 have their seed casings poking out, so anytime now...
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This is me going "small" too ;) If I start it with clones in a couple weeks, we'll probably harvest at the same time. I've still got a bunch of stuff to buy though. I desperately need a RO system before I start, because buying 55 gallons of distilled from Safeway would really suck.
 
anon1122

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smokingrubber said:
This is me going "small" too ;) If I start it with clones in a couple weeks, we'll probably harvest at the same time. I've still got a bunch of stuff to buy though. I desperately need a RO system before I start, because buying 55 gallons of distilled from Safeway would really suck.
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Yeah, the people at the store look at me a little funny with 10 gallons at a time, I cant imagine 55. lol.

I am going to grow these out and take clones from the best one and then I will put them all into flower, so hopefully I'll harvest around feb-march, sound right?
 
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Yeah, that sounds pretty close. Depends on how long you intend to grow them out, and how long you intend to veg the clones.

Figure you can take clones in about 4-6 weeks. Of course, you'll probably only get 3 or 4 clones off each when they're that small. Then you should veg the clones for about 6 weeks, and it'll take 8-10 weeks to flower. If you add in 2 weeks to cure . . . you're smoking 20-24 weeks from now. That's mid March to mid April.

You shouldn't be too impatient with the Veg stage. The bigger it is, the more bud you'll have. Of course, a lot depends on the size of your room, the amount of Co2 it's getting and the amount of light. But basically, if the clones are only big enough to hold an eighth . . . that's about what you'll get out of it. Plus, the clones have to have a root system that's established enough to suck up water when you flood.
 
anon1122

anon1122

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smokingrubber said:
Yeah, that sounds pretty close. Depends on how long you intend to grow them out, and how long you intend to veg the clones.

Figure you can take clones in about 4-6 weeks. Of course, you'll probably only get 3 or 4 clones off each when they're that small. Then you should veg the clones for about 6 weeks, and it'll take 8-10 weeks to flower. If you add in 2 weeks to cure . . . you're smoking 20-24 weeks from now. That's mid March to mid April.

You shouldn't be too impatient with the Veg stage. The bigger it is, the more bud you'll have. Of course, a lot depends on the size of your room, the amount of Co2 it's getting and the amount of light. But basically, if the clones are only big enough to hold an eighth . . . that's about what you'll get out of it. Plus, the clones have to have a root system that's established enough to suck up water when you flood.
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I want to veg long enough where I can top it to get two tops and hopefully a oz to an oz and a half each. just lollipopping them.
 
smokingrubber

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I don't think lolipopping will result in 1½ oz on each plant. They'll be a LOT closer to ½ oz. Of course, that all depends on your definition of a lolipop.
 
anon1122

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smokingrubber said:
What does trimming the undergrowth do? There is a lot of quality bud down there. That's the bud I (er. my friend) sell and I smoke the colas.
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I've been reading on here that trimming the undergrowth will make the plant focus on making bigger and heavier colas. I think that with a dozen clones vegged for a month that have been topped and the undergrowth removed, an oz+ per plant is not an unrealistic goal. I'm not counting my chickens or anything, just hopeful thinking.


Anyone know which pheno I should be looking for with DP White Widow, heaviest and stoniest?

PS. Cotyledons are opening.
 
smokingrubber

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I'm sure it WILL make the top cola bigger, but I doubt the top will grow faster than the stuff you're trimming off the bottom. Seriously, there is a lot of bud down there by the time it's ready for harvest.

One oz per plant is not unrealistic. It just depends on a LOT of other variables.

Also, large colas can develop mold a little easier. Now if you focus on creating one big bud and that bud goes moldy . . . you've lost most of your crop. Mold sucks! How are you planning on handling your humidity levels?
 
anon1122

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smokingrubber said:
I'm sure it WILL make the top cola bigger, but I doubt the top will grow faster than the stuff you're trimming off the bottom. Seriously, there is a lot of bud down there by the time it's ready for harvest.

One oz per plant is not unrealistic. It just depends on a LOT of other variables.

Also, large colas can develop mold a little easier. Now if you focus on creating one big bud and that bud goes moldy . . . you've lost most of your crop. Mold sucks! How are you planning on handling your humidity levels?
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I have ran my system without plants in it and the RH stays at 40% Im sure this will jump by 10-15% with plants in there and the hydro system running. But I do have a small de-humidifier on hand in case things go awry. Maybe I will trim the undergrowth on half, and let the other half do its thing and Ill compare results. Im all about trying and learning new things and finding the best and most efficient way of doing things.

I have the full fox farm line of nutes, the liquids and the solubles. and I am going to get some stuff called "gravity" It's made by humboldt nutrients and it supposedly makes your flowers super dense.

This is a cash crop for me, but i'm also a stickler for quality. I'm trying to have the best of both worlds. I've grown before when I lived in Washington state, but it was always from clones, and now that I'm back east in a non med-friendly state, seed is my only option because I don't know anyone here that grows. And it kills me because I know I am probably less than 2 or 3 degrees of separation from someone who does.

I don't really feel comfortable disclosing my state or exact location, so it's sketchy trying to make friends on here to co-op with. I am hoping from a dozen clones that I can yield anywhere from 16-18 oz keeping back 4-6 for myself.
 
anon1122

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The little ones seemed to be stretching a lot, so Im trying to introduce them to HID lighting for a few hours today and see how they do. The cotyldeons are out and tiny jagged leaves are starting to come out, but the plant is like almost 4" tall including the rockwool. So I dont think those floros were enough. How much longer till I fill the res and give some light nutes?
 
smokingrubber

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You can move the light to about 4 in away. Depending on the heat of the floro tube. In a couple days, you can put the small rockwool into a 3" rockwool. Don't flood yet. When you see roots coming out the bottom, you can go to the next stage.

You're at 50% nutes once a day right? Patience. It doesn't happen overnight.
 
anon1122

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smokingrubber said:
You can move the light to about 4 in away. Depending on the heat of the floro tube. In a couple days, you can put the small rockwool into a 3" rockwool. Don't flood yet. When you see roots coming out the bottom, you can go to the next stage.

You're at 50% nutes once a day right? Patience. It doesn't happen overnight.
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I haven't been giving them nutes at all the past couple days. Im going to mix 1/4 strength nutes and flood it manually once a day. I have them under the hps but its a couple feet above them. So it's not too intense.
 
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anon1122 said:
I haven't been giving them nutes at all the past couple days. Im going to mix 1/4 strength nutes and flood it manually once a day. I have them under the hps but its a couple feet above them. So it's not too intense.
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Sounds good ;) Got a fan in there too right.

I'm working on my stuff slowly but surely. Im still in "buying shit" mode, but a lot of the major pieces are here. I opened the grolab box last night and spread it out in my living room. Good times. You might save some money, but some of this crap online takes forever to arrive.
 
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So what is the verdict on the filter being outside/inside? I am new to a tent and looking at getting one and I have some questions. If anyone would take the time to answer any of them I would be greatful.

1. Is a 1000W sodium too much for a 4x4 tent?

2. should I hook the exhaust fan right to the filter and keep the fan outside thus forcing the air from inside the tent to be pushed out of the tent and through the filter(which is outside the tent)?

3. I am confused as to why you would leave the filter inside the tent? How does this eliminate odor? Help me out here. I don't think heat will be in issue as I will be setting this up in my garage, which will be cold in the witer.

Thanks in advance for any tips. Also, if anyone can provide a link with a growtent set up guide i would much appreciate it.
 
anon1122

anon1122

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stonedgrappler said:
So what is the verdict on the filter being outside/inside? I am new to a tent and looking at getting one and I have some questions. If anyone would take the time to answer any of them I would be greatful.

1. Is a 1000W sodium too much for a 4x4 tent?

2. should I hook the exhaust fan right to the filter and keep the fan outside thus forcing the air from inside the tent to be pushed out of the tent and through the filter(which is outside the tent)?

3. I am confused as to why you would leave the filter inside the tent? How does this eliminate odor? Help me out here. I don't think heat will be in issue as I will be setting this up in my garage, which will be cold in the witer.

Thanks in advance for any tips. Also, if anyone can provide a link with a growtent set up guide i would much appreciate it.
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I've only got a couple minutes right now, but I'll do my best to go through and answer your questions tonight.
 
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