How Many People Need To Believe The World Is A Ball?

[Woodstock.Hippie]

before it is?

This is a math question.

 

[KaleoXxX]

you mean a sphere? you mean a geometry question?

im pretty sure ive heard that the planets rotation has caused the planet to lose its perfect sphere over millions of years

 

[Woodstock.Hippie]

I was indirectly referencing the discussion in other threads of whether or not balls really exist.

 

[morgentaler]

It's not a math question. It's a philosophy question.

The state of the object is not affected by belief. An atom of Hydrogen will not gain electrons from any amount of belief. Nor will a star collapse into a black hole because you fail to believe in it.

 

[cruzer101]

I would say one person.
Then it is to him.

 

[Woodstock.Hippie]

Because at one one time, it was flat.

Then, after a certain number of people thought it was round, it became round.

The question is of the number of people required to transform reality?

I would guess many more than one..

 

[morgentaler]

It was spheroid for about 4.2 billion years. Long before there were people to get it wrong.
Large numbers of people with incorrect information does not make something true. Millions of 13 year old girls believe Britney Spears is talented.

 

[infexion1134]

Millions of 13 year old girls believe Britney Spears is talented.

LOL, great response

 

[fdd2blk]

babies come from storks.

 

[cph]

Umm. None... It's round/spherical with or without people believing it.

 

[cbtwohundread]

It's not a math question. It's a philosophy question.

The state of the object is not affected by belief. An atom of Hydrogen will not gain electrons from any amount of belief. Nor will a star collapse into a black hole because you fail to believe in it.

yes i.,.,.,nicely said.,.,.,5 little fish a two loaves a bread could feed a whole multitude.,.,thats a math equation.,.,

 

[tea tree]

quantum physics. can beleif change the quantum feild. can the brain stimulate the atoms to move. i was wathcing some stephen hawking show and he was into, I think, that perceptions shape the world really, lile alternate universes are formed. I had no idea tht was what he was all about. Curious sort of. Sort of not worth the whimsy. Know what I mean? Then again maybe we are all forgetting that fundamental rule that we all put to the side in sake of great debate, like how word jumbles are fun. Sure is fun thought. How do we know we as a person is not really a brain in a glass jar being electrically stimulated into beleiveing all this? I was asked that in fresh philo. My answer I got a few years ago finally. A= I would be getting laid more if this was a mad scientists jar, no one is this fucking mean! lol. I laughed at the time I thought of that. If one person beleives that there is a flat world then that is a thought in the corners of their brain. Maybe that thought forms its own reality somewhere somehow. It is not as pointless as even I think as it has something to do with blackholes and where matter all goes. Quantum theory was the best stuff on acid I know that.

Then again maybe the op wanted to know if it really mattered to anyone that the world is round at all. In my dauly life I could care less. Lol. Shit works is somone elses dept. That way they have a job. lol. Or maybe it is not that a religious idea to me that the wolrd is round or flat or revolving around anything.

Easter is the name of a saxon goddess that is why I refuse to read the bible this year,lol.

 

[IAm5toned]

well the earth isnt round at all... nor is it a ball.
its an oblate spheriod, a fancy term used to describe a sphere with an equilatoral bulge

 

[Woodstock.Hippie]

morgentaler - great funny!!!

cph - my point exactly!!! However, not long ago, you would have died a long, drawn-out, painful, tortuous death if you would have stood up proudly and proclaimed for all to hear "The earth is round!!!!!

tea tree - In the end, it doesn't really matter to me one way or the other what you believe. My job is done once you understand what the point is. I am however, quite glad that you got it.

What if the energy our brain uses to create, use and store a thought generates an energy wave just like any other flavor of electromagnetic radiation. If every thought has a feeling, is it possible that feelings could be broadcast in some manner?

 

[morgentaler]

What if the energy our brain uses to create, use and store a thought generates an energy wave just like any other flavor of electromagnetic radiation. If every thought has a feeling, is it possible that feelings could be broadcast in some manner?

I saw a documentary on this about 15 to 20 years ago, so there's certainly much more detailed info available now.
They found that brain waves were undetectable by instruments beyond a range of about 3 feet. Way too faint for another brain to be able to use the information.

The brain uses a broadcast system that is considerably more efficient, especially at long range: Body language.

If your brain was broadcasting radio waves, the farther you needed to send them the steeper the need for energy. With the brain using 20% of the bodies energy needs as it is, this would be a large energy price to pay.

Body language has a relatively small energy cost that ramps up much less. Relative to the initial expenditure, as distance increases only small amounts of energy are needed to modify the original stance to make it recognizable.

 

[Woodstock.Hippie]

If you take that number, and multiply it by 6,792,000,000, what do you get?

How big of a thing would this amount of energy be able to move?

 

[jfgordon1]

Welp, my mind is blown.

 

[Mr. Good]

It's not a math question. It's a philosophy question.

The state of the object is not affected by belief. An atom of Hydrogen will not gain electrons from any amount of belief. Nor will a star collapse into a black hole because you fail to believe in it.

If you don't think so then you need to read about the "double slit experiment"...electrons behaving differently because they were aware that they were being observed...

....good stuff though!

 

[Woodstock.Hippie]

I believe a math question is different than a math equation.

I think so because I learned about the results same experiment that was conducted as far apart within our solar system as we could.

 

[morgentaler]

That's not belief, that's Heisenberg's Uncertainty Principle.

You can't observe a subatomic particle without affecting it.

If you don't think so then you need to read about the "double slit experiment"...electrons behaving differently because they were aware that they were being observed...

....good stuff though!