Burden Of Proof

[sunshine17542]

Sure ... fantasy becomes you.

I didn't know freedom was bad.

 

[CrackerJax]

believing in the make believe isn't freedom. Try facing the world truly free of any made up controls.

 

[sunshine17542]

believing in the make believe isn't freedom. Try facing the world truly free of any made up controls.

That's because not everyone has God.

 

[CrackerJax]

It's not a popularity contest. Why does anyone need to believe besdes urself?

 

[Brazko]

I love science lol

Who said you didn't Love Science?

 

[morgentaler]

I didn't know freedom was bad.

Nice straw man argument.

If you find a tin man and cowardly lion to go with you, you're half way to finding the Wizard.

 

[sunshine17542]

It's not a popularity contest. Why does anyone need to believe besdes urself?

Because God is good. Not just for you, but for everyone.

 

[krustofskie]

I surely know what burden of proof is. I am no fool. However my friend, no one forced me to believe in God I just kind of found Him. He is really everywhere. That is why I can say proof is everywhere. I cannot give you proof of Him, as in, here he is for all of you to see. For God is knowledge. You are certainly in-titled to find God in your own way, please look! The Bible is not the only place to look for God.

I would have thought the bible would be a place to find a collection of stories collated over time and presented to sheep by the masters of that time to control the masses through the fear of eternal damnation, yea thats a good place to find god.

 

[sunshine17542]

Nice straw man argument.

If you find a tin man and cowardly lion to go with you, you're half way to finding the Wizard.

God is freedom

 

[CrackerJax]

More like enslavement

 

[sunshine17542]

More like enslavement

You know of nothing. I ask you for mercy and what do you give me? Nothing.

 

[morgentaler]

We don't demand that you burn in hell.
We just don't want to worship fairy tales.

Faith kills. Atheism just makes cutting remarks.

 

[sunshine17542]

We don't demand that you burn in hell.
We just don't want to worship fairy tales.

Faith kills. Atheism just makes cutting remarks.

You cause suffering.

 

[CrackerJax]

Mercy from what? Don't ask me for mercy.... I do feel sorry that you need to be comforted by myth. Not all can make the trip to a reasoned life.

 

[krustofskie]

You cause suffering.

Just how is that exactly? Stop being vague with your words and spit out what you want to say.

 

[sunshine17542]

Mercy from what? Don't ask me for mercy.... I do feel sorry that you need to be comforted by myth. Not all can make the trip to a reasoned life.

I just want your kindness.

 

[morgentaler]

You cause suffering.

Reason makes the world a better place. Religion takes the credit.
(A scientist cures a disease, and the religious say God led him to the cure.)

Religion tells people to spurn or destroy any unbelievers, and then blames the non-religious, gay, or other religions for the trouble in the world.

If making you think causes suffering, it's just because your mind hasn't been getting the exercise it needs.

 

[CrackerJax]

Ur implying I'm being mean ... I'm not. But as the thread topic indicates, this is about the burden of proof.

U may be in the wrong thread.... saying you feel it isn't going to cut it here.

 

[Woodstock.Hippie]

PadawanBater -
Will you allow me to prove it to you through an image in your mind?
Would you feel frustrated if I did not play by your rules as to how I place that image in your mind?
Can we all agree that a claim is just a statement of belief?

 

[morgentaler]

If belief hadn't be co-opted by the religious in the same way that theory has been.

Confidence is now a better term to use, eg. I have high confidence this is true based on the evidence.
Whereas belief has been co-opted to equal faith, or the accepting of something without evidence.

A theory is a conclusion reached examining evidence that has been rigorously tested for that which makes it work, and that which breaks it.
Yet, in order to minimize the value of it, it's used by the religious to say "guess".

I can put an image in your mind too.
"Oprah in a thong, having pot butter smeared in the crack of her ass."

And I didn't even need psychic powers to do that to you.