ChronicCloset
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So if customs does find out what is in a "stealth" package, what is the worst case senario for an american? Or the worst case you guys have ever heard of at least?
Seed shipping:worst Case senario
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Worst case senario you get a pack of pencil crayons from customs. The seed company gets paid an you get no seeds. I read these posts every day. If you do not take the odd risk in life you will go nowhere. So get out the old credit card an start ordering an grow it an let us all know how it went. PEACE AN POTwww. peakseedsbc.com delivers to the states an are a small canadian company with great prices an just coming from canada lesss chances of being scrutinized. Go with thier skunkberry a tried an true stabalized strain.
HowardWCampbell
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Worst case scenario I have ever heard of, customs contacts your local police department. An officer comes out for a "knock and talk" to see if they can scare you into letting them search. I have heard of this happening exactly once, in the state of indiana, regarding a package coming from canada.
Just from looking at posts in various forums, I'd guess that >90% of seeds get through with no problem. The overwhelming majority that do get intercepted result in nothing more than a letter from customs, saying that someone tried to send you contraband, and informing you of how you can try to claim it.
The odds of having any interaction with the police over a seed order are EXTREMELY small IMO. But that possibility, however miniscule, does exist.
Just from looking at posts in various forums, I'd guess that >90% of seeds get through with no problem. The overwhelming majority that do get intercepted result in nothing more than a letter from customs, saying that someone tried to send you contraband, and informing you of how you can try to claim it.
The odds of having any interaction with the police over a seed order are EXTREMELY small IMO. But that possibility, however miniscule, does exist.
JeffTrash
Active Member
Nicely put
racerboy71
bud bootlegger
yeah i was going to say that the most i have ever heard of is getting a letter from customs saying that they have got your package and give you a number to call to claim it.. which only a fool would call imo.. i have ordered multiple times from the attitude seed bank and have always gotten my package on the 7th day on the dot.. i always go with the stealth shipping method for the added security and peace of mind. i can't say enough about how good the service is from the attitude and am always telling others to order from there..
i also agree wtih the poster who said that if you take no risks in life, then you get no rewards...
i also agree wtih the poster who said that if you take no risks in life, then you get no rewards...
Brody.Will.Grow.Thee
Member
worst thing i have ever heard of happening is a letter from customs.
Screwed Up Texas
Member
I've had my shipment confiscated, and
those punk asses didn't even bother to give me a letter
those punk asses didn't even bother to give me a letter
I have a few questions though. If I did order is it dangerous to have it sent to a po box? I have no other mailing address. Do I use my name? I read people saying both yes and no.
Also if you order seeds with your name not to a grow? Couldn't it be grounds for a search warrant of residence?
Also locally people have been busted receiving elbows in the mail. Customs put this device inside so when the box was open they were notified and then made the arrest.
Stealth from attitude without being specific is it legit? Concealed and no odor?
I realize without risk there is no reward, but what if you currently have a grow going?
Also if you order seeds with your name not to a grow? Couldn't it be grounds for a search warrant of residence?
Also locally people have been busted receiving elbows in the mail. Customs put this device inside so when the box was open they were notified and then made the arrest.
Stealth from attitude without being specific is it legit? Concealed and no odor?
I realize without risk there is no reward, but what if you currently have a grow going?
hey cobra, seed ordering is a bit scary, was to me anyways
some seed banks will not ship to a po box, i think attitude is like that, but not sure
you do see some reports of shipping to po box, seems to work, might add some risk, i haven't shipped to a po box so no 1st hand info
as far as shipping to an active grow, that too is adding to your risk
but the big item you bring up is a warrant for seeds, as far as i can see no warrants will be issued for seeds, at least not for small orders
the only credible reports of arrests i've managed to find, none started with a warrant, LEO went to address and managed to get in from poor choices by the grower
HowardWCampbell
New Member
I'll try to answer your questions to the best of my knowledge.
If you get a po box, you will be required to show a couple forms of id. Unless you already have a second identity, with supporting documentation, opening it in a fake name is not realistic for most people. My personal opinion is also that the post office worker is less likely to put something in your box that is addressed to a name different from the registered box owner. In a bigger post office that is probably less likely to be a problem, as there are just too many boxes to keep track of.
I am unsure as to whether getting seeds in your real name to a different address can result in a search warrant. However, I have never heard of a case where seeds alone were the basis for cops getting a warrant.
Receiving lbs in the mail is very different than receiving seeds. Getting caught with seeds is just simple possesion, with the amount of charges based on weight. Since seeds weigh practically nothing, it would take a lot of them to get to the level of felony possesion. IMO sending lbs of bud through customs is very high risk, seeds are MUCH harder to detect.
I have not personally ordered from attitude, so I don't know the specifics of their stealth. But I have heard no complaints about their methods. I have ordered from 3 different seedbanks in the past. None of them had any sort of markings that would suggest that they contained anything marijuana related at all. It is in the best interest of the seedbanks to make sure you get your product. So all of the reputable ones take precautions to make sure their packages do not stand out.
IMO if you have a very trustworthy, non growing friend that will let you use their address, that is probably the safest way to go. Given a choice between using a less reliable friend for a safe address, or having it sent to the grow, I will send it to the grow every time. You are MUCH more likely to get busted from a "friend" bragging about YOUR grow than by some sort of sting related to your seed order.
If your grow is not obvious to someone from outside your home, I feel that you are pretty safe having them sent to your house. But if there is an overwhelming odor of marijuana as soon as you open your front door, or you have an outdoor grow in your yard, having the seeds sent elsewhere would be wise. Just remember, no cops are allowed in your home without a warrant...Unless you let them in.
I know of 2 cases where importing seeds led to an arrest. But I have spent the past 30 minutes searching and can not find a link. One involved a doctor who had multiple large orders intercepted before the cops got involved. The other was a couple in indiana who got the dreaded "knock and talk" and then proceeded to allow the cop access to their grow room, without a warrant. I think they had 19 plants growing at the time, plus detailed records of who they were selling to. +rep for anyone that can find a link.
Just my long-winded .02
howard,
i don't have the link, but i do keep the doctor story in my files, here's a copy of the original post
COLUMBUS, Ind. -- Police say an intercepted order of marijuana seeds prompted investigators to arrest a Columbus doctor and his wife on drug possession charges, RTV6 reported Friday.
Investigators found more than 30 marijuana plants in the home of Dr. Arnaldo Trabucco and Pamela Trabucco, police said.
Authorities searched the home after customs agents in Chicago intercepted a package of marijuana seeds from England. Police said they believe the Trabuccos had ordered the seeds on the Internet.
The case will be examined by the Bartholomew County prosecutor's office, RTV6 reported.
i don't have the link, but i do keep the doctor story in my files, here's a copy of the original post
COLUMBUS, Ind. -- Police say an intercepted order of marijuana seeds prompted investigators to arrest a Columbus doctor and his wife on drug possession charges, RTV6 reported Friday.
Investigators found more than 30 marijuana plants in the home of Dr. Arnaldo Trabucco and Pamela Trabucco, police said.
Authorities searched the home after customs agents in Chicago intercepted a package of marijuana seeds from England. Police said they believe the Trabuccos had ordered the seeds on the Internet.
The case will be examined by the Bartholomew County prosecutor's office, RTV6 reported.
HowardWCampbell
New Member
growone,
The dr I am thinking of had multiple large orders confiscated and still kept ordering. I'm not sure it's the same guy, but good info nonetheless. +rep is on the way
The dr I am thinking of had multiple large orders confiscated and still kept ordering. I'm not sure it's the same guy, but good info nonetheless. +rep is on the way
this is the guy
my guess(just my guess) is he felt the Dr. in front of his name would get the mail passed right through
the seeds were actually for his wife, a MM patient, not that MM is going to be much of a defense in Indiana
the topper was no warrant, they knocked on his door and asked to search, of course he consented
this happened a number years back, the original charges looked like hell, you'd swear this guy was going away for the rest of his life
however, as many of us know how the system works, they piled up charges for the press
in the end, i think he plead guilty to a misdemeanor charge and got the hell out of Indiana
may be a practicing physician in another state if memory is right
my guess(just my guess) is he felt the Dr. in front of his name would get the mail passed right through
the seeds were actually for his wife, a MM patient, not that MM is going to be much of a defense in Indiana
the topper was no warrant, they knocked on his door and asked to search, of course he consented
this happened a number years back, the original charges looked like hell, you'd swear this guy was going away for the rest of his life
however, as many of us know how the system works, they piled up charges for the press
in the end, i think he plead guilty to a misdemeanor charge and got the hell out of Indiana
may be a practicing physician in another state if memory is right
HowardWCampbell
New Member
The one common denominator in the bust cases I have heard of is that they went through customs in chicago. From what I understand, most orders from canada will pass through there.
Interpret that how you wish.
racerboy71
bud bootlegger
i do know first hand that the attifude usese smelly proof bags to send their stuff in, although i don't see what kind of odor the seeds maybe putting off.. i would highliy doubt that marijuna seeds have any kind of odor, and i know of someone who walked right through customs at the airport, sniff dogs and all, with a shit load of seeds in their baggage.. no problem.. not me of course, but someone i know rather well, lol...
just order the things already, lol.. ihave to admit that the first i time i ordered seeds from dr chronic i nearly shit my pants after i placed my order than i message popped up on my screen saying are you sure you want to order these, as the purchase of marijuna seeds is illegal in the us.. i said yes, and still recieved my beans, two new pairs of panties later.. i have never ordered from the dr again cuz of this, and have ordered many times from the attitude with great success.. and no nasty messages poped up after i made my order, so i already felt one hundred times safer than i did from the dr..
i would rather order several smaller orders myself than say 30 beans at a time just in case they didn't make it to me... not getting 30 beans after spending all of that money would be heart breaking to me, but i think i could handle losing out the money for maybe ten at a time, but that is just me.. sending to a safe house is always a good idea, as is going to a walmart or whereever and getting one of these prepaid credit cards they sell now.. just make sure when you buy it that it can be used outside of the us as i have heard that some of them can not..
best of luck
just order the things already, lol.. ihave to admit that the first i time i ordered seeds from dr chronic i nearly shit my pants after i placed my order than i message popped up on my screen saying are you sure you want to order these, as the purchase of marijuna seeds is illegal in the us.. i said yes, and still recieved my beans, two new pairs of panties later.. i have never ordered from the dr again cuz of this, and have ordered many times from the attitude with great success.. and no nasty messages poped up after i made my order, so i already felt one hundred times safer than i did from the dr..
i would rather order several smaller orders myself than say 30 beans at a time just in case they didn't make it to me... not getting 30 beans after spending all of that money would be heart breaking to me, but i think i could handle losing out the money for maybe ten at a time, but that is just me.. sending to a safe house is always a good idea, as is going to a walmart or whereever and getting one of these prepaid credit cards they sell now.. just make sure when you buy it that it can be used outside of the us as i have heard that some of them can not..
best of luck
HowardWCampbell
New Member
I would suggest using a prepaid gift card as well. The reloadable ones require a valid ss#, but the "gift" cards that have a dollar value printed on them usually do not. AFAIK none of the cards my local walmart sells work internationally. But the moneygram money orders they sell will work. I just paid wwms with one last week.
IMO any extra work that the cops have to do to trace a purchase back to you is a good thing. I wouldn't pay with my own credit card, although many have with no problems at all.