Fucking piece of shit!!!!

monkz

Well-Known Member
I HAVE NEVER BEEN SO PISSED OFF.
Walked into my growroom 30mins ago and obviously expected my lights to be off since they SHOULD have gone off 2 hrs and 30mins ago. However the timers used for the lights just wernt working, i even set them to 'manual off' which isnt supposed to let current through but it has no effect: current continues to pass through, but iv been using the same type of timer for my heater and that seems to be working fine..
for fucks sake iv never ever been so pissed off!
well those 2 timers are now smashed to pieces in a lil fit of rage that i had.
please does someone know a GOOD light timer to buy in the UK and does anyone have any fukin idea why that happend?
im guessing it may be that they wernt meant to be used for 600w hps lights?

someone please help
 

GreatwhiteNorth

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Staff member
Dude, take a deep breath. Now,
What kind of timers were they?
Max watt rating?
I run two 600's on one timer I got from HTG with no probs.
Try HTG, they have good stuff @ reasonable prices. I don't know if they ship to the UK, but a quick E-mail or phone call would answer that.
http://stores.ebay.com/hightechgardensupply

GWN
 

pabloesqobar

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Whoa, easy Disco. Smokey gave you good advice. RIU is all about marketing. Your thread title doesn't give the reader any indication of the problem. It's obvious you posted this whilst in your "lil fit of rage". Just a friendly FYI, nothing to get bent out of shape about.

I'm in the U.S. and have no idea what kind of timers they have in the UK.
 

Bob Smith

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I HAVE NEVER BEEN SO PISSED OFF.
Walked into my growroom 30mins ago and obviously expected my lights to be off since they SHOULD have gone off 2 hrs and 30mins ago. However the timers used for the lights just wernt working, i even set them to 'manual off' which isnt supposed to let current through but it has no effect: current continues to pass through, but iv been using the same type of timer for my heater and that seems to be working fine..
for fucks sake iv never ever been so pissed off!
well those 2 timers are now smashed to pieces in a lil fit of rage that i had.
please does someone know a GOOD light timer to buy in the UK and does anyone have any fukin idea why that happend?
im guessing it may be that they wernt meant to be used for 600w hps lights?

someone please help
Any heavy duty timer will work.

Chill out a bit, holmes.
 

lordfister

Active Member
ive a cheapo timer its just you need a contactor to run a timer off a ballast thats all.
if you have a contctor timers shud only cost you 3 quid if you look for them
 

superdave5

Active Member
Buy a digital timer, smoke a bowl (maybe 3 or 4) and relax brotha. Not that big of a deal. If its only happened once I doubt youll have any problems. NOT A HUGE DEAL. Atleast you timer didnt melt off the wall from a bad outlet and almost catch your house on fire. So chill and be greatful
 

PeachOibleBoiblePeach#1

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Julian must be outta control damn,,,you can't by a timer at a store near you to fit your needs? Good adivce is to alway's keep spare bulbs, timers, etc,,,but if the power goes out due to a storm or something,, shit happens, you should be fine, Good luck and Fucking relax:shock:
 

GreatwhiteNorth

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Staff member
Julian must be outta control damn,,,you can't by a timer at a store near you to fit your needs? Good adivce is to alway's keep spare bulbs, timers, etc,,,but if the power goes out due to a storm or something,, shit happens, you should be fine, Good luck and Fucking relax:shock:
Hey, if the power goes out I have some great advice from a clown.
 

donkeyote

Active Member
you waited exactly ONE MINUTE before you decided that you were tired of waiting for a response because "no one takes the time anymore"......

Are you living in some alternate dimension where time moves at a different rate?

Perhaps you are surfing the internet while aboard a cosmic starship that is traveling at close to the speed of light and the weird laws of Relativity are kicking in. So what appears to us here on Earth that only ONE MINUTE passed while you were feverishly waiting for a response to your super duper question, was actually 247 days your time?

Is that what happened? Because if not, then you are a raging, immature, moron that will never, ever have the patience to grow good dope. I hope you don't have a dog the poor thing would probably get kicked every time the world didn't live up to your expectations....
 

donkeyote

Active Member
quick question, when you run out of toilet paper while taking a shit, do you...?

A. jump on the internet, start a thread entitled, 'What the fuck!, I need help please', then proceed to ask for peoples advice on how to wipe your ass with no tp.

B. wipe your ass with a sock and go buy some fucking toilet paper

You've got a 50/50 chance of getting it right, I know you can do it.
 

robert 14617

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this is for the UK but you get the idea if you would take the time to look through the grow FAQ's you would know

Why has my timer switch failed and what should I do?

Why has my timer switch failed and what should I do?





Why has my timer switch failed and what should I do?

Contributed by: skunkaroo
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Editors safety note:
Skunkaroo's instructions below, failed to include a common ground.

It would be much safer to use three conductor cord so that a common ground could be incorporated into this project. Tie all the grounds together using either a four post terminal block instead of the three post block skunkaroo used below, or else tie all the grounds together using a large wire nut. It would also be benifical to tie this to a dedicated ground close to the grow, this can be as simple as a piece of pipe or ground rod driven in the earth with a piece of #8 tied to it.


Normal household timers are not designed or rated to deal with the inductive power load used by horticultural lighting. There are 2 ways around this, you could go to your local Hydro shop and buy a contactor all built and ready to go along with a hefty price tag. Or you can get yourself a suitable change over Contact Relay switch, this will only set you back a few $$ ££. A contact relay switch is required so that the timer turns on the contactor which then turns the light on.

Almost all new growers will experience this failure. The reason for this is the contacts in these timers are not sufficient for the job. Household timers are rated for a RESISTIVE load, ballasts present an INDUCTIVE load, (a very large surge at switch on) this fuses the timer contacts together = Timer failure.


What is a relay switch?

An electro mechanically operated switch.


What follows?

Complete instructions (including photos) on wiring a contact relay switch to replace your timer contacts.


What parts are needed and where can I buy them?

The following parts can be purchased at any good online electrical store ie maplin.co.uk rswww.com

In my case I run 1 x 400w HPS, I know the INDUCTIVE load is 3.15 amps at switch on. Ask the manufactures of your light for this info. I am also running 5 x PC fans and a 1 x PC power supply unit. I have chosen a 240 volt, 10 amp contact relay switch from maplin code JG60 & JG54 this particular Relay switch has screw-terminals for easy wiring, and a push fit, easy mount base.

You will also need a 3 way terminal block, 2 x 3 pin mains plugs, 1 x 3 pin female mains socket, 1.5 meter of 2 core mains wire, sharp wire cutters/blade, an electrical screwdriver, and a cross head screwdriver.



Wiring a relay switch.

Note: mains voltage can kill you! So please exercise caution when wiring electronics of any kind!

1. Cut your 2-core wire into 4 measures the same length. Now pre-pair the wire ends, cut 2” from the outer sheath, then cut 1 cm off the inner sheath to expose wire. *Optional - solder all wire ends*
2. Fit mains plugs to 2 of the 4 pieces of wire, and then 1 of the remaining pieces of wire to the female mains socket.




3. Select one of the pieces of cable terminated with a mains plug, and connect to the relay base as follows: - Connect the live wire (Brown) to terminal 7 on the relay base. Connect the Neutral wire (Blue) to terminal 2 on the relay base. These connections are used to energise the relay coil. Now label the mains plug “Timer” (Plug 1).





4. Select the second piece of cable terminated with a mains plug, and connect to the terminal block as follows: - Connect the live wire (Brown) to terminal 1 on the terminal block (see diagram for terminal block numbering sequence). Connect the Neutral wire (Blue) to terminal 3 on the terminal block (see diagram). These connections are used to operate the grow room light (via the relay contacts). Now label the mains plug “Power” (Plug 2).

5. Select the third piece of cable terminated with a female mains socket, and connect to the terminal block as follows: - Connect the live wire (Brown) to terminal 2 on the terminal block. Connect the neutral wire (Blue) to terminal 3 on the terminal block.

6. Select the final piece of wire and proceed as follows: -Connect one end of the Brown wire to terminal 1 on the terminal block, connect the other end of this wire to terminal 8 on the relay base. Connect one end of the Blue wire to terminal 2 on the terminal block, connect the other end of this wire to terminal 6 on the relay base. Note: under operating conditions both of these wires become live.







7. Now take the relay unit and plug into relay base. (Plug 1) plugs into the timer. (Plug 2) plugs into a separate power socket. The female mains socket will supply power to your grow room lights.





Principle of operation.
When the timer switches on it will provide power to the relay coil. This in turn closes the relay contacts and bridges the terminals 8 & 6 on the relay unit thus providing power to female mains socket.

Total cost = £10. Time taken = 30min. Total saving = £25-30.

Added on: Tuesday, May 1, 2007 Viewed: 2042 times
 

Mr.Therapy Man

Well-Known Member
Your timer wont carry the load so it keeps shutting off and not working.I buy heavy duty timers that are fairly cheap but mine do have metal caseings on them,those plastic timers are not safe in my book.Get you a better timer and you will be fine .....peace
 

lifesgood

Active Member
buddy relax this is a 1 or 2 light 600 watt grow.. i would understand if u lost a crop off of 10 light + but ur just screaming for attention go call ur mama or....

Cheer up,

Lifes Good :D:D:D:D:D
 

kho20

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man i was all ready to help ya fix the problem and do whatever i could after reading the first post, being i had the same thing happened to myself jus las week BUT after the third post your second i think you should go to hell and im bein nice at that man i hardly ever get into squabbles with anyone over the damn internet but thats jus blatently rude we all understand that you were angry at the time but damn dude but as someones already pointed out what riu is all about bro

so calm down the world didnt blow up and well shit man go smoke
 
this dude,has had far more help than he deserves,if people dont have the decency to have good manners,they deserve no help whatsoever
 
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