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morgentaler

morgentaler

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Since it was an interview about evolution he held back from confronting her on the religious hypocrisy of many of her claims.
The amusing thing is that if you mute it and watch her face you can see when she's just making up shit on the fly:
Her eyes bug out a little bit more and her smile widens perceptibly.

She has a tell. The cre-A-TOR better be on her side when she's playing poker or she'll get wiped out.
 
MexicanWarlord420

MexicanWarlord420

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Best part of the video is where she said "If evolutionists had the actual evidence, then they would be displayed in musems and not illustrations."
 
morgentaler

morgentaler

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The Catholic Church vs. Hitchens and Fry - a debate.

Enjoy. :)

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hom36rown

hom36rown

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God is supposed to be omnipotent and omniscient...

So if god knew I was going to die tomorrow, could he save me? If he could save me, doesn't that mean he was wrong about me going to die, and therefore not omniscient....if he can't save me, doesn't that mean he is not omnipotent?

Or better yet, could god make a microwavable burrito so hot, even he could not eat it?
 
Woodstock.Hippie

Woodstock.Hippie

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What does evolution have to do with an Atheism thread?

Does it merely demonstrate a lack of understanding by creationists?

Please remember that it is very hard for a creationist to separate from and reconcile their differences in understanding from their church dogma.

It is a personal interpretation that treads on thin religious ice.
 
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PadawanBater

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CrackerJax said:
Most Christians view evolution as the enemy and consequently group it together with Atheism automatically.
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Mrs. Wright actually did that a couple times during the interview and Dawkins had to correct her by mentioning that the fucking church has embraced the theory of evolution (basically saying she's an idiot because the scripture says nothing about it, and she's OBVIOUSLY denying the fact of evolution because she believes in creation and feels that it goes against her religion). Of course she misses the point completely and continues on with the rest of her bullshit..
 
morgentaler

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Ah, but many evangelicals believe that the Catholic Church is a nutbar cult that they don't want to be affiliated with.
It's kind of like the Moonies not letting the Raelians hang out with them.
 
shnkrmn

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http://www.dailygalaxy.com/my_weblog/2009/11/the-vatican-embracing-the-possibility-of-advanced-extraterrestrial-life.html

The Vatican has announced that the study of life elsewhere in the universe is 'suitable.' I guess with shrinking market share here on earth, they are looking for new flocks. 'Church Universal' indeed.:dunce:

"In my opinion this possibility exists," said the Reverend José Gabriel Funes, head of the Vatican Observatory and a scientific adviser to Pope Benedict XVI, referring to life on other planets.
"How can we exclude that life has developed elsewhere," he said in an interview with the Vatican newspaper L'Osservatore Romano. The large number of galaxies with their own planets makes this possible, he noted.
Asked if he was referring to beings similar to humans or even more evolved than humans, he said: "Certainly, in a universe this big you can't exclude this hypothesis."
In the interview headlined, "The extraterrestrial is my brother," Funes said he saw no conflict between belief in such beings and faith in God.​
PadawanBater said:
Mrs. Wright actually did that a couple times during the interview and Dawkins had to correct her by mentioning that the fucking church has embraced the theory of evolution (basically saying she's an idiot because the scripture says nothing about it, and she's OBVIOUSLY denying the fact of evolution because she believes in creation and feels that it goes against her religion). Of course she misses the point completely and continues on with the rest of her bullshit..
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Stoney McFried

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LOl...onward to new frontiers,says the church.Somewhere out there, there must be entire planets who haven't heard enough of us to know better than to convert!Onward klingon soldiers!:bigjoint:
shnkrmn said:
http://www.dailygalaxy.com/my_weblog/2009/11/the-vatican-embracing-the-possibility-of-advanced-extraterrestrial-life.html

The Vatican has announced that the study of life elsewhere in the universe is 'suitable.' I guess with shrinking market share here on earth, they are looking for new flocks. 'Church Universal' indeed.:dunce:

"In my opinion this possibility exists," said the Reverend José Gabriel Funes, head of the Vatican Observatory and a scientific adviser to Pope Benedict XVI, referring to life on other planets.
"How can we exclude that life has developed elsewhere," he said in an interview with the Vatican newspaper L'Osservatore Romano. The large number of galaxies with their own planets makes this possible, he noted.
Asked if he was referring to beings similar to humans or even more evolved than humans, he said: "Certainly, in a universe this big you can't exclude this hypothesis."
In the interview headlined, "The extraterrestrial is my brother," Funes said he saw no conflict between belief in such beings and faith in God.​
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CrackerJax

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All I know is, if the aliens do ever land here, we had better hide the priests and penguins....that will freak the aliens out and confirm that we're not ready for contact.
 
krustofskie

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If aliens were advanced enough to travel to us I would feel quite sorry for them. What a wasted journey to come here and find so many unethical self-destructive peoples. I would be more worried that they might take it upon themselves to do the planet and the rest of the animal species a favor and wipe the human race off the face of the planet.
 
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PadawanBater

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shnkrmn said:
http://www.dailygalaxy.com/my_weblog/2009/11/the-vatican-embracing-the-possibility-of-advanced-extraterrestrial-life.html

The Vatican has announced that the study of life elsewhere in the universe is 'suitable.' I guess with shrinking market share here on earth, they are looking for new flocks. 'Church Universal' indeed.:dunce:


"In my opinion this possibility exists," said the Reverend José Gabriel Funes, head of the Vatican Observatory and a scientific adviser to Pope Benedict XVI, referring to life on other planets.
"How can we exclude that life has developed elsewhere," he said in an interview with the Vatican newspaper L'Osservatore Romano. The large number of galaxies with their own planets makes this possible, he noted.

Asked if he was referring to beings similar to humans or even more evolved than humans, he said: "Certainly, in a universe this big you can't exclude this hypothesis."

In the interview headlined, "The extraterrestrial is my brother," Funes said he saw no conflict between belief in such beings and faith in God.​
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See, that I can respect. The guy knows what evidence means, he understands mathematical odds, the scope of the universe... he's not denying evidence, yet he still keeps his faith. While I believe his form of faith and his belief couldn't be more wrong, I can sit here and honestly say I don't give a damn what the man may believe. This right here is direct proof debunking claims made by believers that atheists have to force their own beliefs on them and make them conform and become an atheist. That's not the goal at all. I only care about the education part of it, the knowledge part. It's unacceptable that so many people dismiss scientific evidence* because of their beliefs, that is the problem, and always has been.

*I had a friend who dropped out of an anthropology class because she didn't believe what they were teaching her... (wow!:wall:)
 
CrackerJax

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sunshine17542 said:
Aliens need God too :)
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So hypothetically, if the aliens do land and YES they do believe in a G*D, but a DIFFERENT G*D. One that is obviously more in evidence by their superiority over us,.... will you bow to their new and improved G*D?

What if like our G*D, theirs demands sacrifice...will you be willing to go upon the altar?
 
Johnnyorganic

Johnnyorganic

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I'm more inclined to believe in extraterrestrial intelligence than in the divine jesus.

But, what if... jesus was an alien, or alien hybrid?

Consider for a moment....

Immaculate conception.

The christmas star (Mothership).

The three wise men (In Black).

Turning water into wine.

Feeding the multitude with just a 5 loaves of bread and 2 fish.

Raising the dead.

Healing the sick and infirm.

Rising from the dead.

Ascending into the clouds.

Hmmmmmmm....

:lol:
 
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sunshine17542

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CrackerJax said:
So hypothetically, if the aliens do land and YES they do believe in a G*D, but a DIFFERENT G*D. One that is obviously more in evidence by their superiority over us,.... will you bow to their new and improved G*D?

What if like our G*D, theirs demands sacrifice...will you be willing to go upon the altar?
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CrackerJax you are missing the point. There is only one God. The God that created the universe.
 
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