Atheism

Twiz420

Active Member
God is real, because there have been many miracles I have witnessed in my life and he has spoken to me before.

Suck it, non- believers.
Miracles are just lucky coincidences, nothing more. I'd be careful telling people "god" has spoken to you, a lot of people are on meds or locked up in a padded room for hearing and responding to "voices"
 

morgentaler

Well-Known Member
I saw a 6 foot tall lizard man in my room once. Can I claim that as a miracle?
It was just a hallucination from food poisoning but since I have no proof and nobody can verify it, it should fit within the miracle criteria.

The standing question: If miracles are real why aren't faith healers or gods spontaneously regenerating amputated limbs?

Instead miracles consist things like people staring at the sun until they suffer hallucinations from over-stimulation of the optic nerve.
Or tears that leak from a statue of the Virgin Mary, which just happen to be chicken fat when tested in a lab. I guess miracles make tasty soup.
 

CrackerJax

New Member
That little voice in ur head ... it's you.
That whisper in ur ear ... it's you.
That loud booming voice from across the room ... it's you.

it's you.
 

Woodstock.Hippie

New Member
Really cool application.

Too bad they stop at coffee beans and carbon atoms.

Reality warps like a bubble wall when one can scale in their mind the processes and structures from the very large to the very small.
 

morgentaler

Well-Known Member
Wow, this is absolutely sickening.

The idea that sucking up to fairy tales at the expense of other people's lives is insane.
Article copied from Pharyngula.

A moral conundrum, resolved with scripture

Category: Ethics
Posted on: November 13, 2009 11:25 AM, by PZ Myers

I'd never realized what a useful tool the Bible is in infallibly resolving difficult moral problems until I read this detailed dissection of a difficult situation on Answers in Genesis.

Here's the hypothetical situation: you know the whereabouts of a family of Jews hiding from the Nazis. A Nazi patrol comes up to you and asks where they are; you, a good God-fearing Christian, can either lie and say you don't know (which would be bad, because, like, lying is a sin), or you could tell the truth, and the Nazis would zip off and search for and presumably execute the family. What do you do?

As a non-Bible believing amoral godless atheist, my first thought was that this is trivial: you lie your pants off. The 'crime' of telling a lie pales into insignificance against the crime of enabling the death of fellow human beings.

According to Bodie Hodge of AiG, though, I'm wrong. The good Christian should reject lies, Satan's tools, in all circumstances, and should immediately 'fess up the location of the Jews. He backs it up with Bible quotes, too.

If we love God, we should obey Him (John 14:15). To love God first means to obey Him first--before looking at our neighbor. So, is the greater good trusting God when He says not to lie or trusting in our fallible, sinful minds about the uncertain future?

Consider this carefully. In the situation of a Nazi beating on the door, we have assumed a lie would save a life, but really we don't know. So, one would be opting to lie and disobey God without the certainty of saving a life--keeping in mind that all are ultimately condemned to die physically. Besides, whether one lied or not may not have stopped the Nazi solders from searching the house anyway.

As Christians, we need to keep in mind that Jesus Christ reigns. All authority has been given to Him (Matthew 28:18), and He sits on the throne of God at the right hand of the Father (Acts 2:33; Hebrews 8:1). Nothing can happen without His say. Even Satan could not touch Peter without Christ's approval (Luke 22:31).
Regardless, if one were to lie or not, Jesus Christ is in control of timing every person's life and able to discern our motives. It is not for us to worry over what might become, but rather to place our faith and obedience in Christ and to let Him do the reigning. For we do not know the future, whereas God has been telling the end from the beginning (Isaiah 46:10).


Gosh. I never thought of it that way. So…all those Christians who sheltered Jews during WWII are actually burning in hell right now for their sinful wickedness? That is so counterintuitive, it must be true!
So much for taking morality from the bible.
 

CrackerJax

New Member
The umbrella of religion offers safe cover for tons of nutcakes. That alone would make it worth it to take away the tax exemptions.
 

robert 14617

Well-Known Member
you can smother my nut cake anytime hippie , and i think it is time to reevaluate the tax code as far as the church is concerned
 
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PadawanBater

Guest
Anyone have any info on the whole tax exemption thing?

Is it legal to make a religion out of whatever the fuck you want? I heard of this guy who started up a 420 religion somewhere and was fighting the government for his religous rights to smoke cannabis. So for instance, if I said I believed that Craig the martian duck was responsible for my creation and in order to accept the teachings of Craig, one must quack to the sky two minutes everyday, could I go get that legally recognized by the US government... simply because the 1st amendment gives me the freedom to choose what I wish to believe?

...you can see where I'm going with this... At what point does it go from a crazy, off the wall, totally batshit insane cult - like Craig the martian duck, and how some view Scientology, to a worldwide way of life that is regarded by many as moral?

Is this simply another case of majority rule?
 

Johnnyorganic

Well-Known Member
The entire exemption issue for religious organizations is a crock of shit.

As I understand it, one cannot simply pull a religion out of one's ass slippity slip. There are hoops to jump through and requirements to be met.

Someone else determines what beliefs are legitimate. So yeah, Paddy. It's mob rule.
 

Woodstock.Hippie

New Member
Will you let me capture the video of the extraction following hoop jumping?

How long has the Catholic's been tax exempt?

420 years?

Ever seen a Christian mob throw stones?
 
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