ABR-1 ultra high performance photon emitter system
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bigbudmike
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If they report differently then why wouldnt you ask for some pics or to post a compliment from them to advertise your wonderful product. I also would love to believe in your product because I would like to design a solar powered grow box but it requires lower power consumption and less heat output than HID's are capable of. Good Job! (if it works)You GA are certainly welcome to your opinions and I enjoy hearing them.
"Reads like heresay" - I'll have to look at that. To others who bought / use the product have reported that differently.
Regards,
Yow
GrizzlyAdams
Well-Known Member
What big bud said, if people are happy show us their input!
Additionally, why start the thread like a customer then later admit that its the thing you're trying to sell? *Edit* You also seem defensive and sort of confrontational with questions at times. Its a "revolutionary" product so be prepared for the criticisms and naysayers. Idk, you really need to show this product growing something otherwise you're going to have several threads over the next 2 months that are a combined 50 pages plus. . . .with very few if any sales. People will chatter on a forum until the end of time but like I said before. . . can it do the job? I need more than someone's say so!
I'd get something from these customers or shelf the advertising until you have properly developed your product so it is ready to advertise. Right now, it is not ready for market. Its like trying to sell a series of CD players that don't have to spin, no one will buy one unless there's proof that music comes out, and if you can't prove music comes out. . . . the product is not market ready. Products like basic shoes don't need background because I could look at the shoe and know it would function, anything electrical or technological needs more backing because the results aren't tangible. Post all the scientific information you like, unless its results. . . . its sweeping sand off the beach.
Additionally, why start the thread like a customer then later admit that its the thing you're trying to sell? *Edit* You also seem defensive and sort of confrontational with questions at times. Its a "revolutionary" product so be prepared for the criticisms and naysayers. Idk, you really need to show this product growing something otherwise you're going to have several threads over the next 2 months that are a combined 50 pages plus. . . .with very few if any sales. People will chatter on a forum until the end of time but like I said before. . . can it do the job? I need more than someone's say so!
I'd get something from these customers or shelf the advertising until you have properly developed your product so it is ready to advertise. Right now, it is not ready for market. Its like trying to sell a series of CD players that don't have to spin, no one will buy one unless there's proof that music comes out, and if you can't prove music comes out. . . . the product is not market ready. Products like basic shoes don't need background because I could look at the shoe and know it would function, anything electrical or technological needs more backing because the results aren't tangible. Post all the scientific information you like, unless its results. . . . its sweeping sand off the beach.
11.2 Amps versus 8.69 Amps isn't losing.
Doing it with only 287.5 Watts is winning!
hititorforgetit
Member
bigbudmike
Active Member
I am a visual person and need pics of plants growing to be convinced.
bigbudmike
Active Member
Hey everybody I would like to take this time to promote my natural gas powered grow light. It runs on natural gas and only cost $1 a year to run. It is 10x more power ful than a 1000w HPS and puts out 1,000,000 lumens at 2700 kelvin. It can cover a 100 x 100ft area with no problems. I have sold lots of these and they work great. All the customers tell me how wonderful they are but wont seem to post replies or pics to prove it. They are only $10,000 each. A little pricey I know but look at all the money you will save!! Now dont everyone crowd into this thread all at once. 
Sorry to make fun but you gotta understand how we feel.
Sorry to make fun but you gotta understand how we feel. Wow, I bet you're just as strange in real life. Peace, Big Dud!Hey everybody I would like to take this time to promote my natural gas powered grow light. It runs on natural gas and only cost $1 a year to run. It is 10x more power ful than a 1000w HPS and puts out 1,000,000 lumens at 2700 kelvin. It can cover a 100 x 100ft area with no problems. I have sold lots of these and they work great. All the customers tell me how wonderful they are but wont seem to post replies or pics to prove it. They are only $10,000 each. A little pricey I know but look at all the money you will save!! Now dont everyone crowd into this thread all at once.
Not to be rude, but is that your signature you just used? "Peace, Big Dud"
I think all fellow RIU members should stop posting on this thread, and other threads created by this member, until we see 3rd party results. This user could take plants grown under 1000w MH/HPS lighting, move them under the LEDs, and put some shabby ass plants under the 1000w hood.
It's threads like these that take up a lot of space that could be used for better things
just my opinion
This user could take plants grown under 1000w MH/HPS lighting, move them under the LEDs, and put some shabby ass plants under the 1000w hood.
Damn, what a devious mind....
It's posts like these that take up a lot of space that could be used for better things..
Just my opinion..
Damn, what a devious mind....
It's posts like these that take up a lot of space that could be used for better things..
Just my opinion..
ltz40055
Well-Known Member
if this light is so good put together a grow log and prove it to us. put some seeds in the dirt and start recording the results till harvest with pics . if you can grow more faster with less and prove it . then it might be a good product[SIZE=+0]. my self i cant see paying so much money for a light . when i can go to htg and get one light that will do the same and has been proven to do what you are saying your light will do for a fraction of the cost .[/SIZE]
digitalliquid
Active Member
Another thing for you to consider, Yow, when you keep talking about the best test being by area comparison is that folks on here choose their lighting for varied reasons.
Some have a small area and would like to light it using something that produces less heat. Others might be able to deal with 1000W worth of heat and would like more light in the same area. And there are others.
Alot of the hobbyists here are working with small areas. It comes with the territory. Tents, closets, and cabinetry are very popular with this crowd. Most are seriously concerned about heat in small spaces and ventilation problems are a common question. For me, 1000 bucks is not a deal breaker if it takes heat off the table when designing my space while providing equivalent lighting.
With that being said, why not put your light up against 2 600's or a 1000W in the area which most would use for those HIDs. Or is your light source not suitable to a 4x4 or 3x7 space?
Some have a small area and would like to light it using something that produces less heat. Others might be able to deal with 1000W worth of heat and would like more light in the same area. And there are others.
Alot of the hobbyists here are working with small areas. It comes with the territory. Tents, closets, and cabinetry are very popular with this crowd. Most are seriously concerned about heat in small spaces and ventilation problems are a common question. For me, 1000 bucks is not a deal breaker if it takes heat off the table when designing my space while providing equivalent lighting.
With that being said, why not put your light up against 2 600's or a 1000W in the area which most would use for those HIDs. Or is your light source not suitable to a 4x4 or 3x7 space?
Good points, really.
The unit will always produce less heat than HID or HPS in an enclosure as the power supply and panel both produce heat, but the power supply would be physically located outside the grow area.
For maximum results in those spaces, CO2 enrichment to 1500ppm is strongly recommended.
In a HomeBox or a similar enclosure the upward fan draw direction really helps circulate the CO2 and use less overall.
bigbudmike
Active Member
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sherriberry
New Member
This guy is starting to drive me nuts...
yow... we all know co2 helps. Thanks for the heads up buddy.
What we want to see is... RESULTS... PLANTS GROWN UNDER YOUR LIGHTS.
END OF DISCUSSION.
Please dont bother posting again until you have pictures of plants under your lights, vs plants under other lights...
WITH ALL OTHER VARIABLES THE SAME.
OR
please provide your light to someone who can do the test for you.
Telling us we have good points... isnt making us like you any more.
We know we have good points... so take our points to heart, and do some growing with your light, and provide the results.
THE END.
If you cant do this, I will never buy a light from you, you are losing more and more credability by the second.
Even if the technology does work, im sure someone else will come along with it, and have the intelligence to build their light, turn it on, and grow some plants, next to another light with a curtain, and grow some plants under it, and compare results.
Lets see if you can do that, or if you think someone on this forum will buy from you eventually if you keep typing "good points!" for the next 3 months, followed by information that has nothing to do with your light telling us how to become better growers.
This guy is starting to drive me nuts...
A short drive it seems...
yow... we all know co2 helps. Thanks for the heads up buddy.
You're welcome
What we want to see is... RESULTS... PLANTS GROWN UNDER YOUR LIGHTS.
END OF DISCUSSION.
'We' is not a singular term. Please ignore the thread, it's driving you nuts.
Please dont bother posting again until you have pictures of plants under your lights, vs plants under other lights...
WITH ALL OTHER VARIABLES THE SAME.
OR
please provide your light to someone who can do the test for you.
Telling us we have good points... isnt making us like you any more.
Us, we...are all of you going nuts?
We know we have good points... so take our points to heart, and do some growing with your light, and provide the results.
THE END.
I hope so, from ALL of you...
If you cant do this, I will never buy a light from you, you are losing more and more credability by the second.
We wouldn't sell you one. Your first post in this thread stated you'd like to test one. I don't think that is going to happen, do you? How about the rest of you?
Even if the technology does work, im sure someone else will come along with it, and have the intelligence to build their light, turn it on, and grow some plants, next to another light with a curtain, and grow some plants under it, and compare results.
Lets see if you can do that, or if you think someone on this forum will buy from you eventually if you keep typing "good points!" for the next 3 months, followed by information that has nothing to do with your light telling us how to become better growers.
Have a nice day! Chill out..All of YOU..
digitalliquid
Active Member
man this thread is full of fail , it should just be locked and ban this attention whore. obvious troll
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