Can I use 2" net pots with neoprene inserts from clone to harvest?

[Cissy]

I would rather not transfer from the 2" net pots and neoprene into a larger container/collar if I don't have to. So can I start them in the little E-Z cloner collars and finish them there OR is the slit in these collars just too narrow and constricting for a growing plant (seems as though it would be)?

My other option doesn't seem to be a good one either, at least not to my inexperienced eyes. I have 3.75" net pots with the corresponding neoprene collars, but the holes in them seem too BIG for a 2 week old clone that has just taken root. It would be a good sized diameter for an older plant, but seems too big to initially transfer them at such an early time (right out of the cloner).

Also, is there any benefit to using a Rapid Rooter plug when taking cuttings? Any benefit to dropping them in a plug over just danging them in air clamped into a neoprene collar?

SOG btw.. Not going to be growing monsters.

thanks

 

[Cissy]

simple enough question.. looking for a quick answer or two..

thx

 

[tokinman]

seriously doubt it. just for the fact there isn't enough room for the roots to grow before they are drowning in the water. if you plan on the plants maxing out at 8" or so maybe you could make it work, but again doubt it would be worth it in the long run..

 

[It's 5 o'clock somewhere]

It is possible and can be done either areo or hydro. Check out my friends thread.....


https://www.rollitup.org/grow-journals/107075-ak-47-x-super-silver-50.html#post3391635


There are way more pic's but this page should answer your question.....

 

[Cissy]

It is possible and can be done either areo or hydro. Check out my friends thread.....


https://www.rollitup.org/grow-journals/107075-ak-47-x-super-silver-50.html#post3391635


There are way more pic's but this page should answer your question.....

I am on page 3 of the thread that you linked.. your friend transplanted into soil (unless he changed his mind later in this thread).. so how does this answer my question? I dont want to transfer at all.. other than lifting the net pot out of my aero cloner and setting it into my DWC flowering system.

My problem being that the 3.75" neoprene collars are too big for a freshly cut clone and the 2" E-Z cloner type collars are seemingly too small for an older plant.

 

[NewGrowth]

Have you seen stickbud's set-up? It's kind of got a cult following now so the answer is a definite YES.

 

[Cissy]

I know I have seen some of his posts, not sure if I have seen the thread you are referring to though.. Gonna look it up now.

thx

 

[NewGrowth]

here it is https://www.rollitup.org/hydroponics-aeroponics/116859-harvest-pound-every-three-weeks.html

 

[Cissy]

ahh the "Harvest a # every 3 weeks" thread.. I knew the name sounded familiar.. been about 6 months since I looked it over though.. going to read through it again now and see if I can find my answers there as you suggested i would..

thx

 

[tokinman]

of course you can do it if you want to keep transferring to a bigger res as they grow. i thought you were talking about doing it in a cloner thing. if you have a big enough/deep enough bucket/res, you can obviously do anything

 

[NewGrowth]

ahh the "Harvest a # every 3 weeks" thread.. I knew the name sounded familiar.. been about 6 months since I looked it over though.. going to read through it again now and see if I can find my answers there as you suggested i would..

thx

I usually don't say stuff like this but your av is hot maybe bitter sweet?

 

[Cissy]

of course you can do it if you want to keep transferring to a bigger res as they grow. i thought you were talking about doing it in a cloner thing. if you have a big enough/deep enough bucket/res, you can obviously do anything

The question is in regards to the net pots and collars, not the size of my reservoir.

I will make but one transfer regardless. From my cloner directly into my flowering DWC set up and that's it. The res is HUGE so that will not be an issue.

I'd prefer to start them in a 2" net pot with the neoprene collar (no medium) and then keep them in there all the way through to the end. Just lift it out of my cloner and pop it into the DWC system and never move it again. OR my 2nd option would preferably be starting it in the 3.75" pot/neoprene and just leaving it in there till the end. I'd rather not move it from a 2" pot to a 4" pot at ANY point and I would rather not use any medium (IF all things are equal, BUT if there was a benefit to using Rapid Rooters then I would go that route).

So.. Assuming that all options are equal and possible I would prefer:

1. 2" net pots and collars from start to finish.

2. 3.75" net pots and collars from start to finish.

Option 1 being best since it will allow me to use a smaller cloner.

thx

 

[Cissy]

I usually don't say stuff like this but your av is hot maybe bitter sweet?

lol yeah.. very hot indeed. I agree.

As for the link.. Looking it over now. So far no luck, but I will read as much of it as humanly possible. lol

Thought it looked like he was using the 2" collars throughout, but hard to tell just based on the picture. Gonna read on.

thanks

 

[NewGrowth]

Yah I'm pretty sure he uses them all the way through and I would think that if they appear to be a problem you could just take them out and cut out some B&W poly to cover the tops. I do know you will have to support your plants somehow, stinkbud uses those rails to support his plants.

 

[Philo2]

You can keep them in the 2" net pots and neoprene. The neoprene will stretch out enough as the stem grows.

However you won't get much support from it and you will have to tie the plants to something or they will tip over. I've had some friends do the stinkbud veg system and it was a nightmare. The lid leaked, the plants tipped over and the lid was too flimsy to provide enough support. They all tried it and all gave it up for a more dependable system.

If you have a larger net-pot with some hydroton to provide wait it will be a lot more stable. You don't want to wake up in the morning and find that one of your plants tipped over.

 

[Cissy]

Yah I'm pretty sure he uses them all the way through and I would think that if they appear to be a problem you could just take them out and cut out some B&W poly to cover the tops. I do know you will have to support your plants somehow, stinkbud uses those rails to support his plants.

ahh yeah.. I will definitely look into getting some trellis netting or something. But I might not have the same need to support my plants, since I am not using a thin PVC post or a ultra thin rubbermade type top. I am using a 3/4" thick melamine coated piece of plywood. So the little net pots will fit in there quite snug and wont topple over as easily (in theory at least, since this is a 1st time for me). So they shouldn't be any more likely to tip than a larger net pet (again, in THEORY). going with a Al B. Funct type SOG grow too, so the plants won't grow HUGE. think it would be wise to have something in place for support either way though until i know for sure (nothing beats experience).

 

[It's 5 o'clock somewhere]

I am on page 3 of the thread that you linked.. your friend transplanted into soil (unless he changed his mind later in this thread).. so how does this answer my question? I dont want to transfer at all.. other than lifting the net pot out of my aero cloner and setting it into my DWC flowering system.

My problem being that the 3.75" neoprene collars are too big for a freshly cut clone and the 2" E-Z cloner type collars are seemingly too small for an older plant.

The link should have taken you to page 50 of his thread. It shows pic's of his set up. He started in dirt but about half way through his thread he switched to hydro. If I wanted you to start on page one I would have linked you to page one. If you drop him a question in his thread or pm him I'm sure he'd be glad to help you.

 

[Lawrence2013]

I would rather not transfer from the 2" net pots and neoprene into a larger container/collar if I don't have to. So can I start them in the little E-Z cloner collars and finish them there OR is the slit in these collars just too narrow and constricting for a growing plant (seems as though it would be)?

My other option doesn't seem to be a good one either, at least not to my inexperienced eyes. I have 3.75" net pots with the corresponding neoprene collars, but the holes in them seem too BIG for a 2 week old clone that has just taken root. It would be a good sized diameter for an older plant, but seems too big to initially transfer them at such an early time (right out of the cloner).

Also, is there any benefit to using a Rapid Rooter plug when taking cuttings? Any benefit to dropping them in a plug over just danging them in air clamped into a neoprene collar?

SOG btw.. Not going to be growing monsters.

thanks

Hi, Cissy. This device might solver your problem. http://www.ebay.com/itm/hydroponic-plant-retainer-replaces-net-pots-hydroton-with-stacked-neoprenes-/331005507945?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item4d11773969

I've used it for small plants, and it handles fairly large plants as well. Good luck.