Nirvana AK-48 600 Watt Ebb & Flow

Abnjm

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Abnjm, how much room do you have surrounding the table?

Are you going to put them into a bigger table when you flower or are you keeping them in that?
Hi Bob,

It's a 2' x 2' table in a 2' x 4' tent. A foot clearance on two sides, and an inch or two on the other sides.

I can't move them to another table because the table is probably just one big root ball by now. I planted the seedlings in coco coir in netpots, and then surrounded them by hydroton:



I decided I'd try it on my first grow because I read that root ball size has a direct effect on bud production. So, I figured the bigger the root ball, the bigger the buds and just made one large pot. Besides, I hated looking at all that open area around the netpots not being available to my roots.....

I know I would have issues if any of my plants turn out male, but I use feminized seeds and will now use clones, so the risk is small. It worked for me the first time, and I've just continued to do it on my other grows. I'm averaging 15 oz, trimmed close and dry, off of 4 plants.

Thanks for checking in!
 

Abnjm

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Plants look awesome........... Glad to see the roots on the clones....... Everytime I come in here, it reminds me of something I need to do, or should have done. 15 ounces....... you bastard....... I need to climb that ladder. I am thinking about grabbing a Lumatek dual 600w, ballast this morning?. I wish I would be able to pull 15 ounces off each...........
Dude! I would kill for your set up. Your room must look like the surface of the sun.......I'm still dithering on building my veg / mom tent, and I don't have much time to decide with the roots showing now! I've been very happy with my Lumatek, but I bought it early and is not a MH/HPS model. I have to use a conversion MH bulb which decreases the lumens.

Thanks for following along!
 

MEANGREEN69

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there comeing along nice man, love all the air movement u got going on can never have to much..next show ur going to put some co2 in there right?? right??..lol i bet they whould be monsters..
 

Abnjm

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Plants are looking good man and the clones are rooting! What kind of setup are you thinking about puting those clones and mothers in?
I bought a 2'x4' 8 tube T-5 lamp from my local hydro shop, and I'm going to hang it in my old HomeBox XL. I can use either 4 or 8 tubes, so I'll use the 4 bulbs when I just have mom's in there, and I can use the 8 tubes to get a head start on vegging my plants. If these lights are as good as I've read, I probably won't have to use the MH in the other tent anymore.
 

Abnjm

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there comeing along nice man, love all the air movement u got going on can never have to much..next show ur going to put some co2 in there right?? right??..lol i bet they whould be monsters..
I lost my two biggest colas to bud rot at the end of my second PPP grow. These fuckers were 2 liter sized monsters with centers that had turned to mush. Ever since, I have tried to keep the air dry and really moving during flower. I didn't have any problems with my last grow.

I think CO2 would be way beyond my lazy stoner abilities. I'd have to rethink my cooling because I keep the big fan on 100% 24 hours a day. Of course, I never thought I'd have a rez chiller either.....
 

Abnjm

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Checked the res before the first flood tonight, and added 3 gallons of water. eC went from 2.8 to 2.6 and pH stayed at 5.9. Tucked a bunch of fan leaves, and verified I have 4 lovely females with pistils as thick as pipe cleaners. I have stopped all supercropping, and will start tying the plants down if I start to run out of space.

After the tuck:


It will be filled back in by morning......
 

MEANGREEN69

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I lost my two biggest colas to bud rot at the end of my second PPP grow. These fuckers were 2 liter sized monsters with centers that had turned to mush. Ever since, I have tried to keep the air dry and really moving during flower. I didn't have any problems with my last grow.

I think CO2 would be way beyond my lazy stoner abilities. I'd have to rethink my cooling because I keep the big fan on 100% 24 hours a day. Of course, I never thought I'd have a rez chiller either.....
yeah i had some mold do the same, congats of the 4 ladys;-)
 

Bob Smith

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Hi Bob,

It's a 2' x 2' table in a 2' x 4' tent. A foot clearance on two sides, and an inch or two on the other sides.

I can't move them to another table because the table is probably just one big root ball by now. I planted the seedlings in coco coir in netpots, and then surrounded them by hydroton:



I decided I'd try it on my first grow because I read that root ball size has a direct effect on bud production. So, I figured the bigger the root ball, the bigger the buds and just made one large pot. Besides, I hated looking at all that open area around the netpots not being available to my roots.....

I know I would have issues if any of my plants turn out male, but I use feminized seeds and will now use clones, so the risk is small. It worked for me the first time, and I've just continued to do it on my other grows. I'm averaging 15 oz, trimmed close and dry, off of 4 plants.

Thanks for checking in!
An elbow off of a 2x2 footprint (with a 600, no less) is simply amazing - astoundingly good work, my friend.

I'll be content with an elbow off of 4x4 footprint under a 1000 with CO2 enrichment for my first run in this system.

Keep up the good work, my man bongsmilie
 

spicole420

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Here some advice for u. Try the patch. Your thumb gets greener with each grow. Can't wait to see how this grow goes. U are the weed lord!!!!
 
I bought a 2'x4' 8 tube T-5 lamp from my local hydro shop, and I'm going to hang it in my old HomeBox XL. I can use either 4 or 8 tubes, so I'll use the 4 bulbs when I just have mom's in there, and I can use the 8 tubes to get a head start on vegging my plants. If these lights are as good as I've read, I probably won't have to use the MH in the other tent anymore.
So are you going to put the mothers and clones that have rooted in a flood table as well?
 

JN811

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hey man, i posted a couple weeks ago when I started my ak. Your grow looks great! My ak is at about day 17 and is shooting up in size everyday! My avatar is a pic i took of her about 3 days ago or so... I wanna see yours bud so I know what to expect! Btw I'm subscribed now! Keep up the good work!!!
 

Abnjm

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An elbow off of a 2x2 footprint (with a 600, no less) is simply amazing - astoundingly good work, my friend.

I'll be content with an elbow off of 4x4 footprint under a 1000 with CO2 enrichment for my first run in this system.

Keep up the good work, my man bongsmilie
Hi Bob,

I finally got my lazy stoner ass over to your thread, and it looks like we design the same way... Put something together, tweek it, come up with another idea, tear it down, put up the new shit, tweek it, etc..... LOL! That's what I love about this hobby. You can use your imagination to maximize production, and at the end of the process you get weed! bongsmilie

You should have no problem getting the weight you want with the set up you have developed. Let me know how you like the SM-90. I have not seen a SINGLE fungus gnat this entire grow, and the addition of the SM-90 is the only thing different from my previous, gnat infested, grows.

Thanks for checking in!
 

Abnjm

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So are you going to put the mothers and clones that have rooted in a flood table as well?
I'm going to hand-water them for a while. My buddy uses "mom pods" for his mothers. They are small, single plant E & F setups he designed. I'm going to make him show me how to build a couple when he comes over to collect his clones this weekend.
 

Abnjm

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hey man, i posted a couple weeks ago when I started my ak. Your grow looks great! My ak is at about day 17 and is shooting up in size everyday! My avatar is a pic i took of her about 3 days ago or so... I wanna see yours bud so I know what to expect! Btw I'm subscribed now! Keep up the good work!!!
Your plants look great! I subscribed to your thread too.

Thanks for stopping in.
 

Abnjm

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Rez is nicely dialed in at 1200 ppm / 2.4 eC / 5.8 pH. Adding 1.5 gallons of tap per day. Rez temp is still at 67F. Tent temps range from 67F to 78F at 45% RH. Plants are 23" tall and still look good:



You can see the branching caused by the LST and Supercropping. Lots of budsites in the level canopy:



Clones are still plugging along. 4 of the 8 have struck roots, and I plan on moving them to some coco this weekend, and then in the soon to be built mom / clone tent:

 

Bob Smith

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Hi Bob,

I finally got my lazy stoner ass over to your thread, and it looks like we design the same way... Put something together, tweek it, come up with another idea, tear it down, put up the new shit, tweek it, etc..... LOL! That's what I love about this hobby. You can use your imagination to maximize production, and at the end of the process you get weed! bongsmilie

You should have no problem getting the weight you want with the set up you have developed. Let me know how you like the SM-90. I have not seen a SINGLE fungus gnat this entire grow, and the addition of the SM-90 is the only thing different from my previous, gnat infested, grows.

Thanks for checking in!
Lol, you ain't kidding - thanks for stopping in to my humble little thread.

Actually in the process of ripping my veg tent down now and making it a double-decker E&F tent - like you, I always think there's a better way to do things :mrgreen:

I did knock myself out cold with a hammer yesterday though, so might take it easy today.
 
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