Intolerable "Diversity"

dankie

Well-Known Member
And the light comes on, commissioned salesmen are the most malicious predators on the planet. I worked with some of the slickest salesmen I've ever known, real criminals, would sell their mother a bogus deal. There might be one out of a hundred that has a conscience, but even that is pretty slim odds. When they look at a perspective client, they size them up for how much blood they can suck out of them. Take into account that these two individuals are salesmen before you seek to validate their claims. HAHAHOHOHEHE~LOL~.
Thank you Med. I do size up my clients, and sometimes I even start trying to figure out my commision while they are still paying. Sometimes, the person has treated me with so little respect I will try to add things onto the policy to keep them and their belongings secure in case something horrible happens to them or their families. Heaven forbid I make some money off trying to keep assholes insured for when the shit finally does hit the fan.
 

medicineman

New Member
Thank you Med. I do size up my clients, and sometimes I even start trying to figure out my commision while they are still paying. Sometimes, the person has treated me with so little respect I will try to add things onto the policy to keep them and their belongings secure in case something horrible happens to them or their families. Heaven forbid I make some money off trying to keep assholes insured for when the shit finally does hit the fan.

I can't get no respect: HAHAHOHOHEHE~LOL~.
 

UncleSunny

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ViRedd says--PS: Please read the links. Two of my favorite writers.

I read them. The one thing I get from them is that things don't change, and Power just doesn't appear. Just like in "V for Vendetta", people create problems that they have the solution for, and allow others to suffer while they use the dilemma to prove to us how important they are. Really though, how does one revolt against this? I just posted a thread on the paradox of freedom, which kinda sums up my opinion on what the problem boils down to.

And yes, there is a sanctity in the name of FDR...I can remember once getting fiery hell rained down upon me because, in an argument against federal powers, I called Abe Lincoln some choice names, one of which was "cocksucker". I have read all of Lincoln's public speeches, read many of his letters and followed his legislation, and I honestly think that Lincoln really messed up this country.
But when you read your history, formulate an educated opinion, you are simply shot down. Lincoln "freed the slaves", is the immediate reaction. How then could I think he was an asshole?
Simple, Lincoln didn't free the slaves. The Emancipation Proclamation only outlawed slavery in the Confederate states, not the loyal border states. The people who freed the slaves were the slaves themselves who rebelled and escaped, and the abolitionists constantly pestering their congressmen. Lincoln wanted to abolish slavery in order to cripple the south and to gain support from the abolitionist movement as another rally cry for the troops. I have extensive southern roots from my mother's side, and no one in my family even knew anyone with slaves. If Lincoln really wanted to abolish "Slavery" he would have done more for the immigrant miners or the mill workers up north who had to pay for their own equipment from the company store on the few pennies a day they earned. Lincoln detested Unions. What Lincoln did was cement the ever growing Federal powers to steal legislative control from the States. Yes, he had some good, righteous ideas, but he wasn't the saint that history paints him as. Don't forget, he was one of the original founders of our beloved Republican party...

Anyhow, I had to back up my cocksucker claim briefly before I got called a racist again. I think the problem is that every president did good things and bad, and these men are not sitting alone in a room. They have brain trusts and the checks and balances of a whole government. I agree with FDR's choices to spend, because he was trying to spend it on an infrastructure...that is until the war. I wrote my history thesis on Vaudeville, and I learned a lot about the New Deal learning about Vaudville's death throws. You can argue, but I see many correlations between FDR and Regan--spend money to get money moving. People bitch about dropping the gold standard, but gold is too rare for a population growing at the rate we were. I don't think consumer confidence is a better idea to back currency, but at the time, it sounded like a good idea, at least to rich people.
And ultimately, you can't run for president if you don't have money, and you wouldn't want to be president if you didn't have dreams of power. Poverty and oppression are foreign concepts to the upper class. They know they have to fix them, but, much like the dishes in my sink right now, they will have to wait.

 

medicineman

New Member
ViRedd says--PS: Please read the links. Two of my favorite writers.

I read them. The one thing I get from them is that things don't change, and Power just doesn't appear. Just like in "V for Vendetta", people create problems that they have the solution for, and allow others to suffer while they use the dilemma to prove to us how important they are. Really though, how does one revolt against this? I just posted a thread on the paradox of freedom, which kinda sums up my opinion on what the problem boils down to.

And yes, there is a sanctity in the name of FDR...I can remember once getting fiery hell rained down upon me because, in an argument against federal powers, I called Abe Lincoln some choice names, one of which was "cocksucker". I have read all of Lincoln's public speeches, read many of his letters and followed his legislation, and I honestly think that Lincoln really messed up this country.
But when you read your history, formulate an educated opinion, you are simply shot down. Lincoln "freed the slaves", is the immediate reaction. How then could I think he was an asshole?
Simple, Lincoln didn't free the slaves. The Emancipation Proclamation only outlawed slavery in the Confederate states, not the loyal border states. The people who freed the slaves were the slaves themselves who rebelled and escaped, and the abolitionists constantly pestering their congressmen. Lincoln wanted to abolish slavery in order to cripple the south and to gain support from the abolitionist movement as another rally cry for the troops. I have extensive southern roots from my mother's side, and no one in my family even knew anyone with slaves. If Lincoln really wanted to abolish "Slavery" he would have done more for the immigrant miners or the mill workers up north who had to pay for their own equipment from the company store on the few pennies a day they earned. Lincoln detested Unions. What Lincoln did was cement the ever growing Federal powers to steal legislative control from the States. Yes, he had some good, righteous ideas, but he wasn't the saint that history paints him as. Don't forget, he was one of the original founders of our beloved Republican party...

Anyhow, I had to back up my cocksucker claim briefly before I got called a racist again. I think the problem is that every president did good things and bad, and these men are not sitting alone in a room. They have brain trusts and the checks and balances of a whole government. I agree with FDR's choices to spend, because he was trying to spend it on an infrastructure...that is until the war. I wrote my history thesis on Vaudeville, and I learned a lot about the New Deal learning about Vaudville's death throws. You can argue, but I see many correlations between FDR and Regan--spend money to get money moving. People bitch about dropping the gold standard, but gold is too rare for a population growing at the rate we were. I don't think consumer confidence is a better idea to back currency, but at the time, it sounded like a good idea, at least to rich people.
And ultimately, you can't run for president if you don't have money, and you wouldn't want to be president if you didn't have dreams of power. Poverty and oppression are foreign concepts to the upper class. They know they have to fix them, but, much like the dishes in my sink right now, they will have to wait.

Never studied Lincoln but your comment about your dishes and elites hit the mark
 

UncleSunny

Well-Known Member
Never studied Lincoln but your comment about your dishes and elites hit the mark
Thanks Medi. The Elite's concept of poverty is one of the many reasons that I am a staunch Anti-Federalist. I don't know what life in North Dakota or Alabama is like...how then can I be qualified to be the leader of those people? I am truly a conservative when it comes to the original concepts of America. It was the Laissez-faire (leave alone) politics of the British that caused the American Revolution--they wanted our tax dollars, but didn't want to give us a chance to argue. It's much easier to get the ear of the mayor than it is the President. States were supposed to be separate jurisdictions, so that people could live the way THEY wanted to. California is a different place than Texas; we should have different rules. I'd love it if they divided States like, okay, you bible thumpers can live here, stoner can live there, and gay people can have a place over here...
Alright, I am exaggerating to make a point-segregation is bad. It would, however, be nice to have States recognize the desires and morals of the people who live there, without a central Government trumping the politics of the People. The only reason for a Federal government, I believe, is to arbitrate battles between States, regulate interstate commerce, and serve to unite us on pressing foreign issues, such as international diplomacy and wars.
But that's just me. I could be wrong.:neutral:
 

ViRedd

New Member
"The only reason for a Federal government, I believe, is to arbitrate battles between States, regulate interstate commerce, and serve to unite us on pressing foreign issues, such as international diplomacy and wars. But that's just me. I could be wrong.

Not wrong at all ... you are exactly right.

I also like your take on Lincoln. If you want a dumb-shit reaction, anytime the Civil War is brought up in conversations, correct the situation by calling it "The Federal Government's War Against Succession." ~lol~

Vi
 
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