Was Jesus for war? Can followers of Jesus also be war supporters?

[skunkushybrid]

Certain men paid other certain men to blow up those buildings. Only it's not the men you think it is.

These men seek to keep us under control, and now that most sane people realise there are no gods, they needed a new form of control. They bring out terrorism. It just so happens that over in the east they have access to oil, oil that is needed to fill the pockets of these men that seek to control us.

Madrid, the trains... why would the terrorists blow up trains in madrid the day before Spain was going to withdraw their troops from the fighting? Why have we only been bombed once? The reason is, they only needed to do it once.

Tony Blair, George Bush should be executed for the slaughter of hundreds of thousands of innocent Iraqi men, women and children.

We don't need oil, we have weed. It's these same men that seek to control our useage of the sacred herb. 10-30% of all medicines would become obsolete if cannabis is legalised. A loss of billions to the pharmaceutical companies.

This world is about control and money. They get both by keeping us in fear. Now we don't fear some magical god, we have to fear terrorists.

The US Constitution is being torn apart, piece by piece. Each day, more and mopre of our freedoms are being taken away from us. We need a massive shift in mindset, to evolve to the next phase. Else, we will continue, and become even more a society of robots and sheep.

 

[Lacy]

Oh garden knowm. you're such a whacky type of chick but I am so on the same page as you about war.
Its all about the $'s

great question!!!

a warmonger is a redundant term...

anybody who is for WAR.... supports war... encourages war.. promotes war...

Its redundant cause all supporters of war are war mongers....

People who believe they need war because they can't find anything inside themselves EXCEPT me me me me me me me.. I I I I I I I I I I I I I I

iloveyou

 

[Lacy]

This isn't my thing to talk about war but I do believe there will be a 3rd world war. Sad! Very sad but true.
War IS INDEED for money.
It NEVER ceases to amaze me how primitive us humans really are. We have all this modern technology but we still don't have that higher conscious connection.
Well..most don't.
Obviously.

Certain men paid other certain men to blow up those buildings. Only it's not the men you think it is.

These men seek to keep us under control, and now that most sane people realise there are no gods, they needed a new form of control. They bring out terrorism. It just so happens that over in the east they have access to oil, oil that is needed to fill the pockets of these men that seek to control us.

Madrid, the trains... why would the terrorists blow up trains in madrid the day before Spain was going to withdraw their troops from the fighting? Why have we only been bombed once? The reason is, they only needed to do it once.

Tony Blair, George Bush should be executed for the slaughter of hundreds of thousands of innocent Iraqi men, women and children.

We don't need oil, we have weed. It's these same men that seek to control our useage of the sacred herb. 10-30% of all medicines would become obsolete if cannabis is legalised. A loss of billions to the pharmaceutical companies.

This world is about control and money. They get both by keeping us in fear. Now we don't fear some magical god, we have to fear terrorists.

The US Constitution is being torn apart, piece by piece. Each day, more and mopre of our freedoms are being taken away from us. We need a massive shift in mindset, to evolve to the next phase. Else, we will continue, and become even more a society of robots and sheep.

 

[iblazethatkush]

Ok man first of all I'm glad you get so excited about all of this but the fact remains that terrorists exist in alot of other places around the world. Now if that means that we go after these people around the world, should that make us evil war mongers? According to you yes. Peace does NOT work in certain situations. You should be smart enough to know that. Do ya watch football dude? How many teams do you see win with no offense? There has to be a equal balance. If people like yourself ran our country, we might as well give up all our freedoms and let you take care of it right? I think not. I'm sure you are a very smart guy but maybe think a bit before you speak.

This has to be the stupidest shit I have ever read. Your comparing football to homeland securtity? "the fact remains that terrorists exist in alot of other places around the world. Now if that means that we go after these people around the world, should that make us evil war mongers?" Umm yes 'tard boy. What do you suggest, invading every country in the world that has terrorists? With what army? and why do you want to go after every terrorist group in the world? I thought only a small group of Al Qaeda members were responsible for 9/11? Why do we have to be on the offensive like you said in your post? Look at Canada, to my knowledge, they don't have much of a military and they don't have terrorists attacking them. This is why 90% of the world hates us and the other 10% want us dead is because of people who think like you. The American government wants to control everything. They want to act as the watchdogs over the whole world and tell countries what they can and can't do. Can you really blame them for wanting to destroy us? The British did the same thing to us back in the 1600's and the American revolution happened. If we wouldn't get involved with other countries politics, bring all off our troops home, and stop this empire building quest Bush is on(All things Ron Paul wants to do) I guarantee there won't be any more terrorists attacks. You need to think a bit there 'tard boy b4 u post. America has been heavily involved in the politics of the Middle East for the last 25+ years. It's not a coincidence we're a target.

 

[Lacy]

LMAO!!!! Ha I so need that!
Oh blaze, you amuse me in such unique ways.

'tard boy......

This has to be the stupidest shit I have ever read. Your comparing football to homeland securtity? "the fact remains that terrorists exist in alot of other places around the world. Now if that means that we go after these people around the world, should that make us evil war mongers?" Umm yes 'tard boy. What do you suggest, invading every country in the world that has terrorists? With what army? and why do you want to go after every terrorist group in the world? I thought only a small group of Al Qaeda members were responsible for 9/11? Why do we have to be on the offensive like you said in your post? Look at Canada, to my knowledge, they don't have much of a military and they don't have terrorists attacking them. This is why 90% of the world hates us and the other 10% want us dead is because of people who think like you. The American government wants to control everything. They want to act as the watchdogs over the whole world and tell countries what they can and can't do. Can you really blame them for wanting to destroy us? The British did the same thing to us back in the 1600's and the American revolution happened. If we wouldn't get involved with other countries politics, bring all off our troops home, and stop this empire building quest Bush is on(All things Ron Paul wants to do) I guarantee there won't be any more terrorists attacks. You need to think a bit there 'tard boy b4 u post. America has been heavily involved in the politics of the Middle East for the last 25+ years. It's not a coincidence we're a target.

 

[iblazethatkush]

Certain men paid other certain men to blow up those buildings. Only it's not the men you think it is.

These men seek to keep us under control, and now that most sane people realise there are no gods, they needed a new form of control. They bring out terrorism. It just so happens that over in the east they have access to oil, oil that is needed to fill the pockets of these men that seek to control us.

Madrid, the trains... why would the terrorists blow up trains in madrid the day before Spain was going to withdraw their troops from the fighting? Why have we only been bombed once? The reason is, they only needed to do it once.

Tony Blair, George Bush should be executed for the slaughter of hundreds of thousands of innocent Iraqi men, women and children.

We don't need oil, we have weed. It's these same men that seek to control our useage of the sacred herb. 10-30% of all medicines would become obsolete if cannabis is legalised. A loss of billions to the pharmaceutical companies.

This world is about control and money. They get both by keeping us in fear. Now we don't fear some magical god, we have to fear terrorists.

The US Constitution is being torn apart, piece by piece. Each day, more and mopre of our freedoms are being taken away from us. We need a massive shift in mindset, to evolve to the next phase. Else, we will continue, and become even more a society of robots and sheep.

Thank you Skunk, excellent post. Except about the part about God, I do believe in God. But the rest I agreed 100% with. More ppl need to realize the fact that terrorism is a trick they use to control us. 'Well we need to invade Afgahnistan TERRORISTS. Oh TERRORISTS we need to enact the patriot act and listen in on your phone calls. We have to violate the constitution because there's TERRORISTS. Iraq, Iran-TERRORISTS. Did you know we are all even TERRORISTS now. If you grow weed your considered a TERRORIST. PPl need to wake up, there are no terrorists. Its the new reefer madness. Bush and Cheney are the real terrorists.

 

[iblazethatkush]

LMAO!!!! Ha I so need that!
Oh blaze, you amuse me in such unique ways.

'tard boy......

Glad I could help

Oh and I also agree with you about WW3. From what I been reading online it seems imminent. We got to get Bush out of the White House.

 

[skunkushybrid]

The next world war will be society fighting back for our freedoms. Just like the French Revolution. It needs to happen.

I want TRUTH. This is all I ask from anyone.

 

[Lacy]

..........yeah...now there's real 'tard boy.[quote=iblazethatkush;346261]Glad I could help

Oh and I also agree with you about WW3. From what I been reading online it seems imminent. We got to get Bush out of the White House.[/quote]

 

[Lacy]

Gotta go sew fellas....nice chatting with ya....blaze..ur a funny man..always have me laughin'...and I LOVE LAUGHing!!!!

 

[iblazethatkush]

The next world war will be society fighting back for our freedoms. Just like the French Revolution. It needs to happen.

I want TRUTH. This is all I ask from anyone.

Never happen nowadays. People got it too good. Nobody minds being controlled when you got a two-story house with a pool.

 

[iblazethatkush]

Gotta go sew fellas....nice chatting with ya....blaze..ur a funny man..always have me laughin'...and I LOVE LAUGHing!!!!

Gotta go sew...hmm sounds like fun...later

 

[7xstall]

This has to be the stupidest shit I have ever read. Your comparing football to homeland securtity? "the fact remains that terrorists exist in alot of other places around the world. Now if that means that we go after these people around the world, should that make us evil war mongers?" Umm yes 'tard boy. What do you suggest, invading every country in the world that has terrorists? With what army? and why do you want to go after every terrorist group in the world? I thought only a small group of Al Qaeda members were responsible for 9/11? Why do we have to be on the offensive like you said in your post? Look at Canada, to my knowledge, they don't have much of a military and they don't have terrorists attacking them. This is why 90% of the world hates us and the other 10% want us dead is because of people who think like you. The American government wants to control everything. They want to act as the watchdogs over the whole world and tell countries what they can and can't do. Can you really blame them for wanting to destroy us? The British did the same thing to us back in the 1600's and the American revolution happened. If we wouldn't get involved with other countries politics, bring all off our troops home, and stop this empire building quest Bush is on(All things Ron Paul wants to do) I guarantee there won't be any more terrorists attacks. You need to think a bit there 'tard boy b4 u post. America has been heavily involved in the politics of the Middle East for the last 25+ years. It's not a coincidence we're a target.

when i saw the football thing i was shocked also!! great post.









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[7xstall]

The next world war will be society fighting back for our freedoms. Just like the French Revolution. It needs to happen.

I want TRUTH. This is all I ask from anyone.

i agree with this completely. what keeps war from happening right now is the "hand that feeds us" mentality that if there is an insurrection we'll suffer even more. as the currency of the world continues to devalue this will no longer be a viable deterrent and if the elite bankers/politicians aren't careful they are going to create a very difficult situation for themselves.

we really have very little freedom left despite the false assertion to the contrary that our 1rst world creature comforts provide. we are punished for our words, we are fed half-truths, we're not listened to when we want answers, leaders and powerful people are not held to account, we're put in prison when we refuse to pay voluntary taxes, Christianity is being scrubbed from the US like it was/is in Britain while other, more trendy religions embraced by hollywood freaks are allowed to thrive...

liberty is dying more and more.






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[skunkushybrid]

i agree with this completely. what keeps war from happening right now is the "hand that feeds us" mentality that if there is an insurrection we'll suffer even more. as the currency of the world continues to devalue this will no longer be a viable deterrent and if the elite bankers/politicians aren't careful they are going to create a very difficult situation for themselves.

we really have very little freedom left despite the false assertion to the contrary that our 1rst world creature comforts provide. we are punished for our words, we are fed half-truths, we're not listened to when we want answers, leaders and powerful people are not held to account, we're put in prison when we refuse to pay voluntary taxes, Christianity is being scrubbed from the US like it was/is in Britain while other, more trendy religions embraced by hollywood freaks are allowed to thrive...

liberty is dying more and more.






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Not just liberty, this greed and control is also helping to kill the earth we live on. the way I see it, the death of this society is an eventuality, one way or the other. either we do it, or she will (referring to nature).

 

[closet.cult]

Certain men paid other certain men to blow up those buildings. Only it's not the men you think it is.

These men seek to keep us under control, and now that most sane people realise there are no gods, they needed a new form of control. They bring out terrorism. It just so happens that over in the east they have access to oil, oil that is needed to fill the pockets of these men that seek to control us.

Madrid, the trains... why would the terrorists blow up trains in madrid the day before Spain was going to withdraw their troops from the fighting? Why have we only been bombed once? The reason is, they only needed to do it once.

Tony Blair, George Bush should be executed for the slaughter of hundreds of thousands of innocent Iraqi men, women and children.

We don't need oil, we have weed. It's these same men that seek to control our useage of the sacred herb. 10-30% of all medicines would become obsolete if cannabis is legalised. A loss of billions to the pharmaceutical companies.

This world is about control and money. They get both by keeping us in fear. Now we don't fear some magical god, we have to fear terrorists.

The US Constitution is being torn apart, piece by piece. Each day, more and mopre of our freedoms are being taken away from us. We need a massive shift in mindset, to evolve to the next phase. Else, we will continue, and become even more a society of robots and sheep.

wow. great post. i couldn't agree more.

 

[medicineman]

Mr Wax1, The reason the US is such a bully and warmonger is exactly the Football mentality. When I was in high school, the biggest pricks were the varsity football players, macho dickheads that thought being tough was cool. Well that is the mindset of our leaders, Go on offense, strike first and hardest, fuck negotiation. I'm no tough guy, but I kicked a couple of those mean tough footbal jocks asses, totally from fear. I knew if I let them get the advantage, it was over. And that is what has been happening in Iraq. We have been getting our asses kicked. Without the big stick (Atomic arsenel) we wouldn't stand a chance on the world field. Those islamists are prepared to die for their beliefs, in fact they consider it an honor and a priveledge. Show me the US marine that wants to die and I'll show you a sick puppie. The only reason we are killing more than them is air power and advanced weaponry, If we fought them equally with M-16s and rocket launchers, they'd wipe us out in a hurry. So the tough guy thing is bullshit. For them. it's like bringing a knife to a gun fight. They have more courage than I could ever imagine. If you lived in Iraq and the US was ravaging your country and killing women and children, would you grab a rocket launcher, an AK47 and head out, these are true Iraqi patriots, we could learn something from them.

 

[closet.cult]

Ok man first of all I'm glad you get so excited about all of this but the fact remains that terrorists exist in alot of other places around the world. Now if that means that we go after these people around the world, should that make us evil war mongers? According to you yes. Peace does NOT work in certain situations. You should be smart enough to know that. Do ya watch football dude? How many teams do you see win with no offense? There has to be a equal balance. If people like yourself ran our country, we might as well give up all our freedoms and let you take care of it right? I think not. I'm sure you are a very smart guy but maybe think a bit before you speak.

firstly, i'm not that excited. did you see an exclamation point anywhere in my words? my comments are simple and direct. touring the world, kicking in the door of any country which MAY have terrorist absolutely makes you a warmonger.

sad as it seems, the proper role of the government is to protect the citizens from a strike thru strong defences, even if it means getting attacked first.. PREEMPTIVE WAR IS WRONG. you are not a diplomat, but a war monger, if you invade a country like Iraq or Iran because they MAY be creating WMA's, and they MAY be aiding terrorism.

A peaceful nation would find a diplomatic solution and war only after a first strike. That is the nature of peace-minded people. If you disagree and think we should preemptivly strike countries who have not attacked us, you are a warmonger.

 

[7xstall]

Not just liberty, this greed and control is also helping to kill the earth we live on. the way I see it, the death of this society is an eventuality, one way or the other. either we do it, or she will (referring to nature).

its all tied together, chief.

they fulfill their greed by consuming our liberty. why can't we buy hydrogen fueled cars yet? oh, that's not as profitable... since i could build a tank and fill it with bacteria that emit pure hydrogen after feeding on my household waste i wouldn't have to throw $50 per tank into their bank account. why do i need to pay for electrical power to be delivered to me across hundreds of miles of high maintenance, environmentally destructive rights-of-way when small, safe, easy to secure and maintain nuclear plants could be installed in every small city? oh, that's right, they need some more profit before we're allowed to use the graphite sphere technology that would end coal burning and make high tension lines obsolete while also providing meltdown proof reactors (it is literally -impossible- to have a meltdown).

i know you don't believe all of it, but the bible says that the love of money is the root of all evil, it really is.






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[wax1]

This has to be the stupidest shit I have ever read. Your comparing football to homeland securtity? "the fact remains that terrorists exist in alot of other places around the world. Now if that means that we go after these people around the world, should that make us evil war mongers?" Umm yes 'tard boy. What do you suggest, invading every country in the world that has terrorists? With what army? and why do you want to go after every terrorist group in the world? I thought only a small group of Al Qaeda members were responsible for 9/11? Why do we have to be on the offensive like you said in your post? Look at Canada, to my knowledge, they don't have much of a military and they don't have terrorists attacking them. This is why 90% of the world hates us and the other 10% want us dead is because of people who think like you. The American government wants to control everything. They want to act as the watchdogs over the whole world and tell countries what they can and can't do. Can you really blame them for wanting to destroy us? The British did the same thing to us back in the 1600's and the American revolution happened. If we wouldn't get involved with other countries politics, bring all off our troops home, and stop this empire building quest Bush is on(All things Ron Paul wants to do) I guarantee there won't be any more terrorists attacks. You need to think a bit there 'tard boy b4 u post. America has been heavily involved in the politics of the Middle East for the last 25+ years. It's not a coincidence we're a target.

No what is wrong with our country is that we have social fuck ups like yourself living in it. All you idiots want to do nothing productive and just sit on your fat lazy ass and spout hate and bs from your computer. Stupid motherfucker! Get a fucking job and move out of your mothers.