Lacy's Indoor Grow??? (lots of questions)

[Lacy]

Hi fellow growers alike,
Its been a long time since I have done an indoor grow. I certainly have enough 'buddage' to last a while BUT I ordered some seeds and am itching to start.


I have 17 kahuna? seeds and about 24 unknowns. 2 I got from a friend last week and the others I ordered an indoor seed selection from BCseedKing but unfortunately they did not come labeled.


I am going to grow some of the known seeds but I am also growing to grow about 5 unknowns from the seed bank and try and figure out which ones are which and with the help from you guys,I'm sure I will. Right guys?


I have only grown in the past with cfl's but LOTS of them everywhere but I want to build a 'grow room' or two. I have my cfl's for the seeds but now I am wondering about getting a 600 watt hps light for one room. We have a 'roughed-in' bathroom downstairs so I would like to build a grow room there. (this way i don't have to worry about drainage and additional mildew)
We even have the special dry wall etc to start.


I'm starting my seeds in 'miracle grow premium Seed Starting potting mix'. I know a lot of you sprout on the damp paper but I'm always scared that i might forget about them and they will get all dried out, plus I'm used to this method.


I know that the advantage of using a hsp light is that I can switch the bulbs once I want to flower. I also figure that a 1000 MH will be too big, plus hubby isn't impressed by this idea I think its too much also.............besides ...............

I'll just get another 400 hps later for another room.


I have done cloning in the past a few times but I just used that 'roots' liquid. I just realised the other day that i also have some cloning boxes that I got for cloning some clematis a couple of years ago. If I do find a special plant that is just the 'bomb' then I might consider cloning it just for fun. The only thing I don't like about this is that it increases my plant number with less yield
but I'm only concerned about that if and when i become legal. If that ever happens.

This is just a roughed out plan that I am starting. I'll add pictures and stuff later.


If anyone has any suggestions please do.
Thanks
lacy

 

[dankie]

Sounds like you have a good start Lacy! Lets see the pics when you get around to it!

 

[Kant]

LACY!!!!!!

If you're getting a 600w hps now and want to get a second smaller light later i would suggest a MH light. you can use that for vegging and the hps for flowering. you're plants will love you for it.

PIIXXX!!!!!

 

[Lacy]

thanks dankie. oh i'm gonna picture you guys out.
lots and lots of pics!!!!!!!!

Sounds like you have a good start Lacy! Lets see the pics when you get around to it!

 

[Kant]

awww. i have a feeling you're gonna spoil us with pictures

 

[Lacy]

Bud Bat!!!!!

So you recommend a MH light for vegging and the hps for flowering?
So I should be looking to get a MH now?
Why do you say this? I should do my research but I like to hear people's opinions and experiences.

Right now I just have the cfl's. I don't even have any sprouts so there isn't anything to show.

LACY!!!!!!

If you're getting a 600w hps now and want to get a second smaller light later i would suggest a MH light. you can use that for vegging and the hps for flowering. you're plants will love you for it.

PIIXXX!!!!!

 

[Lacy]

But of course!!! BBB!

awww. i have a feeling you're gonna spoil us with pictures

 

[Lacy]

Hubby needs the phone (dial up) so i'll be back.

 

[Kant]

Bud Bat!!!!!

So you recommend a MH light for vegging and the hps for flowering?
So I should be looking to get a MH now?
Why do you say this? I should do my research but I like to hear people's opinions and experiences.

Right now I just have the cfl's. I don't even have any sprouts so there isn't anything to show.

well the idea is, plants in the veg stage use much more of the blue spectrum of light. MH puts out primarily blue spectrum light so plants can more efficiently use the light. HPS lights put out primarily red spectrum which is used more efficiently by flowering plants. plants can thrive under both lgiht but it really comes down to how much of the light can plants use.

when people use 1 light the entire they choose hps because the plants spend more time in flowering so the most benefit would come from an hps light.

 

[Gygax1974]

Hey Lacy I can probably help you identify at least one of the mystery strains from BCseedking, I ordered the same thing planted 8 and I know 3 were Mango, so if you get Mango I can tell you...pretty decent stuff too. And all 8 tunred out female, the other five are unknown to me but they all look decent and they are budding up nicely. Oh and I have a suspicion that a couple are also Sweet Dreams will know soon. Can't wait to follow your indoor trip...

 

[Lacy]

While hubby is yakkin' 'bout fishing I'll explain what I was thinking.
First I need to build a room. I'm hoping to get some help with that part.
I was thinking of getting the hps first because I can use it for vegging at first then switch to the reddish flowering bulb for flowering.
I really can't afford to get both right now and it would be a waste considering I don't even have sprouts yet. I'm still dreaming but i'm dreaming big. To me that is!!!

I'm so stoked about this.

What do you use Kant? What strains are you growing? What do you use to clone your mothers? Clone boxes? Hormone root liquid? You grow hydro don't you?

You don't have to answer all the above questions. I'm just really excited about this and hubby can only listen about it for so long. Its like him telling me about fishing. (I need the smiley faces)

Oh get off the phone...get off the phone.....another fishing trip plan for tomorrow...ok already...get off the phone....

I'm just kidding.

Kinda!

I just saw a post that someone had that showed amazing plants grow in a similar bathroom setting, grown with a 400 hps. The plants looked awesome!!!

Do you think some people here might be able to identify some of my (indoor) plants if I were to add a selection of what they could be from the seed bank?

Ugh! dial up sucks!

 

[Lacy]

Ok but the light I am now looking at has a blue bulb for vegging and a red one for flowering.

well the idea is, plants in the veg stage use much more of the blue spectrum of light. MH puts out primarily blue spectrum light so plants can more efficiently use the light. HPS lights put out primarily red spectrum which is used more efficiently by flowering plants. plants can thrive under both lgiht but it really comes down to how much of the light can plants use.

when people use 1 light the entire they choose hps because the plants spend more time in flowering so the most benefit would come from an hps light.

 

[Lacy]

Um. mango sounds familiar. This is good news. Sweet dreams...I'm not sure but I am also interested now so i will check.
Your grow sounds exciting. How long them for?
Thanks Gygax!

Hey Lacy I can probably help you identify at least one of the mystery strains from BCseedking, I ordered the same thing planted 8 and I know 3 were Mango, so if you get Mango I can tell you...pretty decent stuff too. And all 8 tunred out female, the other five are unknown to me but they all look decent and they are budding up nicely. Oh and I have a suspicion that a couple are also Sweet Dreams will know soon. Can't wait to follow your indoor trip...

 

[Gygax1974]

Lacy get something like this
High Tech Garden Supply

It does both giving you more options in the long run it can do both MH and HPS depending on your situation, I own one and it does great whereever I need it. Also I can definitely indentify the one strain Mango I mentioned earlier and I think I got some Sweet Dreams also from the same indoor mix. Both strains are decent, both clone easily and root fast.

 

[Kant]

While hubby is yakkin' 'bout fishing I'll explain what I was thinking.
First I need to build a room. I'm hoping to get some help with that part.
I was thinking of getting the hps first because I can use it for vegging at first then switch to the reddish flowering bulb for flowering.
I really can't afford to get both right now and it would be a waste considering I don't even have sprouts yet. I'm still dreaming but i'm dreaming big. To me that is!!!

I'm so stoked about this.

What do you use Kant? What strains are you growing? What do you use to clone your mothers? Clone boxes? Hormone root liquid? You grow hydro don't you?

You don't have to answer all the above questions. I'm just really excited about this and hubby can only listen about it for so long. Its like him telling me about fishing. (I need the smiley faces)

hahahaha

i use a 400w ballast that switches between MH and HPS.

i'm growing NL. for clones i just dunk them in a root hormone gel, put them in rockwool that's been soaked in R/O water (reverse osmosis) and then pop them under the lights.

I do grow hydro.

 

[gardenandcats]

I also use the same type of lights as Kant and Gygax... I found a good deal on ebay for you..400w DIGITAL BALLAST GROW LIGHT 400 watt both HPS & MH! - (eBay item 110190339833 end time Nov-10-07 08:13:09 PST) There located in Canada so should be reasonable shipping... I have yet to do a inside grow..I used mine to veg in early spring then outside. I'm really thinking about doing a inside Areophonic grow. But Where I live we get alot a major Blizzards and usually loose power for a couple of days.. Areo wouldn't do well with no power for 48 hours or more.
I'd hate to put all my time and money into everything and then lose them do to no juice to run lights and pumps. I have been hinting to hubby to get a generator.

 

[Lacy]

Wow thanks gardens and cats. Thats awesome and very rerasonably priced. I had no idea there was such a thing.
I also live in the country and experience the same thing with the hydro. It sucks when it goes off and we also DON'T have a generator. You know, I never even thought of that but good point. We haven't lost it for a really long time. Only 18 hours at the most but still

I also use the same type of lights as Kant and Gygax... I found a good deal on ebay for you..400w DIGITAL BALLAST GROW LIGHT 400 watt both HPS & MH! - (eBay item 110190339833 end time Nov-10-07 08:13:09 PST) There located in Canada so should be reasonable shipping... I have yet to do a inside grow..I used mine to veg in early spring then outside. I'm really thinking about doing a inside Areophonic grow. But Where I live we get alot a major Blizzards and usually loose power for a couple of days.. Areo wouldn't do well with no power for 48 hours or more.
I'd hate to put all my time and money into everything and then lose them do to no juice to run lights and pumps. I have been hinting to hubby to get a generator.

 

[Lacy]

Yeah. thats the same thing that kant and garden&cats say. Its obviously a good option and i so want to order that one off ebay. I could get it now.
oh. decisions decisions

Mango and 'sweet dreams' sounds very nice. I think it will be fun trying to distinguish them as they are growing.

Lacy get something like this
High Tech Garden Supply

It does both giving you more options in the long run it can do both MH and HPS depending on your situation, I own one and it does great whereever I need it. Also I can definitely indentify the one strain Mango I mentioned earlier and I think I got some Sweet Dreams also from the same indoor mix. Both strains are decent, both clone easily and root fast.

 

[Lacy]

This light sounds like the most popular vote so I am very interested in it.

Pancakes? I didn't know bud bats ate pancakes?

hahahaha

i use a 400w ballast that switches between MH and HPS.

i'm growing NL. for clones i just dunk them in a root hormone gel, put them in rockwool that's been soaked in R/O water (reverse osmosis) and then pop them under the lights.

I do grow hydro.

 

[oneyearorange]

Lacy get something like this
High Tech Garden Supply

It does both giving you more options in the long run it can do both MH and HPS depending on your situation, I own one and it does great whereever I need it. Also I can definitely indentify the one strain Mango I mentioned earlier and I think I got some Sweet Dreams also from the same indoor mix. Both strains are decent, both clone easily and root fast.

I ordered my light from this place and was very impressed. i think it might have even been gygax who told me to buy from them. I am happy I did. I am having great success with my first grow. Plants look great. I wish you the best of luck.