Coco and soil grow indoor

[dbo24242]

A picture is worth a thousand words. Don't feel like typing a novella my finger is sprained.

pricetags

$12 - $6 x 2 Trainwreck Seed
$24 - $1.50 x 15 Square 1 gallon pots
$16 - 40Litre of Botanicare Coco based soil
$9 - 16 Qt of Black Gold Coco based soil

$10 - $3 x 3 - tupperware flood containers

$71 for the plants to get going

$20 - $10 x 2 four pack 6500k 23w CFL
$6.50 - $2 x 3 plug outlet sockets
$3.25 - $1 x 3 socket splitters
$5 - 2 six outlet power strips

$35 for vegetative lighting

$60 for stuff for the Clonebox (4x14w T5 lights, bubble cloner 15 site, cloning solution, etc.)

$95 - tent
$100 - centrifugal exhaust fan
$30 - oscillating clamp fan
$80 - cooltube
$125 - 600w ballast
$115 - Hortilux 600w lamp

$545 for tent setup

So before nutrients this setup is approximately

$706

which doesn't include money spend on this and thats which did or did not fit into the grow room, including hanging equipments and extra fans and outlets.

 

[dbo24242]

As always comments and questions are welcomed and I am opening myself to your constructive criticism!

My Botanicare soil is

PURE EARTH™ outdoor moisture formula

Premium Organic-Based Potting Soil

For potted plants, container gardens, raised bed gardens, and planter boxes.

Pure Earth™ Moisture Formula is a premium, organic-based potting soil. Our Moisture Formula holds a higher moisture content for hotter climates, outdoor applications and for less frequent waternings.

Pure Earth is blended using superior, all natural ingredients insuring that your plants receive the natural benefits that only organics can provide.

Ingredients

Coir fiber, composted forest product, compost, pumice, perlite, humic acid (Humex™) (derived from leonardite ore), seaweed (Seaplex™) (derived from Ascophyllum nodosum), fish meal, alfalfa meal, composted poultry litter (Pure™), earthworm castings.

Benefits of using outdoor moisture formula:

· Optimum air to water ratio for outdoor gardens.
· Optimum cation exchange capacity.
· Premium, select, natural ingredients.
· High moisture for less frequent waterings.

So does that mean I am going to need to add pH balanced nutrient water, pH balanced water, or just water. Since there is no dolomite lime I figure I'll need to pH it the whole time and because of the nutrients in it I'm guess I could probably wait about a month before needing any nutrients, but I don't really know any info would be appreciated otherwise I'll just be trying it out.

Nutrients

General Hydroponics:
Sub-culture M
FloraNova Grow and Bloom
FloraMicro and Florabloom
Koolbloom
pH down
and Plant Revolution Plant Success

 

[dbo24242]

600w + 15% = 690w Hortilux HPS Lamp
110w Centrifugal exhaust fan
20w air pump DWC buckets (current grow)
7w air pump clonebox
160w veg CFLS
50w clone CFL
40w other fans

total of about 1000w!

Is that a suspicious amount? Lets see here...

My computer subwoofer 500W
Each computer speaker, 200W
Surround system for the TV 550W,
my space heater on 24/7 (low) 600w,
computer ~200-300w
central heating, oh god too many W

 

[dbo24242]

This grow I plan to be very light on the nutrients as this is only my second grow using soil and I fear the nutrient burn. For that reason, I have come up with my own 'lite' feeding schedule for these girls once they show signs of needing nutrients. By the way I will be making mothers of the trainwrecks and pineapple express clones so expect to see those later on too. The nutrient schedule is for a perpetual system i will begin. I am going to brew up gallons of all of these solutions for clones at varying stages (7 stages). Since I will have 15 pots, and 1 or 2 mothers, I should be able to cut clones every week to ten days and start new flowering and harvest eventually several ounces ever 10 days or so.

1 Rooting in bubble cloner (1 week) - Sub Culture M

2 Early veg / rooting -
500ppm nova grow, 100ppm micro, sub culture / plant success (1 week)

3 Aggressive Growth (in 12/12) -
700ppm nova grow, 75ppm micro, sub culture / plant success (1 week)

4 Starting flowering -
750ppm nova bloom, 50ppm micro, sub culter / plant success (2 feedings 2 weeks)

5 Bud forming (pistils) -
800ppm nova bloom, 150ppm Koolbloom, sub culture / plant success (2 feedings, 2 weeks)
1 tsp molasses per gal

6 Mid flowering bud fattening -
800ppm nova bloom, 100ppm floramicro, 200ppm Koolbloom, subculture/ plant success (2 feedings, 2 weeks)
1 tsp molasses per gal

7 Ripening period - 500ppm nova bloom, 100ppm micro
2 tsp molasses per gal

Expected time frame for mother plants is 3 weeks before cuttings can begin being taken.

So once the mother is ready it will be cutting to one week rooting, then one week veg, 9 weeks in 12/12 (for the 8 week GHS Trainwreck), 1 week dry, 1 week cure. In other words, 12 weeks from the time the mothers are ready until the buds are ready. Well, mothers will be ready in 1 mo time, so that is 4 months until weed starts coming out of this. (JUST IN TIME FOR 420!!!!). Very excellent time to get perpetual going for the dry months of the summer.

 

[bubbleobill]

600w + 15% = 690w Hortilux HPS Lamp
110w Centrifugal exhaust fan
20w air pump DWC buckets (current grow)
7w air pump clonebox
160w veg CFLS
50w clone CFL
40w other fans

total of about 1000w!

Is that a suspicious amount? Lets see here...

My computer subwoofer 500W
Each computer speaker, 200W
Surround system for the TV 550W,
my space heater on 24/7 (low) 600w,
computer ~200-300w
central heating, oh god too many W

That's not at all how wattage works, very few of the things you have mentioned would be running at full capacity much of the time, and for the speakers it's a totally different situation depending on your amps.

 

[welsh wizz]

As always comments and questions are welcomed and I am opening myself to your constructive criticism!


So does that mean I am going to need to add pH balanced nutrient water, pH balanced water, or just water. Since there is no dolomite lime I figure I'll need to pH it the whole time and because of the nutrients in it I'm guess I could probably wait about a month before needing any nutrients, but I don't really know any info would be appreciated otherwise I'll just be trying it out.

Yes Ph correct your water and yes you wont need to feed for at least 4 weeks.

As for your wattage usage 1000w for 24 hrs is going to cost about $2.50 a day.

 

[dbo24242]

That's not at all how wattage works, very few of the things you have mentioned would be running at full capacity much of the time, and for the speakers it's a totally different situation depending on your amps.

those are the amps, they are beefy studio monitors. I'm pretty sure that is how wattage works, and yea I realize they won't run at full capacity, but the light will, the pumps will, and the fan at full blast will... soo uhhh think b4 u come round here tellin me whats what

 

[dbo24242]

Yes Ph correct your water and yes you wont need to feed for at least 4 weeks.

As for your wattage usage 1000w for 24 hrs is going to cost about $2.50 a day.

Cool I just filled some more pots with soil and flushed them with a little more than their volume pH 6.5 water and transplanted clones which are establishing roots into two of the pots.

Running 24 hrs
20w air pump DWC buckets (current grow)
7w air pump clonebox
160w veg CFLS
50w clone CFL
40w other fans

so only around 300w 24 hrs a day

12 hrs
600w + 15% = 690w Hortilux HPS Lamp
110w Centrifugal exhaust fan

and I guess I should point out that these are just the appliance ratings not actual killawatt scores since apparently that needs to be mentioned (?)

 

[welsh wizz]

lol.
I cant see a problem with your power usage at the rates and hrs used.

 

[bubbleobill]

Agreed it's small fry, but the comparisons made are entirely incorrect.
Btw even with your amps, it is totally dependent on how efficient they are.
http://sound.westhost.com/efficiency.htm

soo uhhh think b4 u come round here tellin me whats what

FGI before you start insulting people, you obviously have no understanding of how electricity works, and how complex things get. If you knew your maths you wouldn't be making such ignorant statements.

 

[dbo24242]

Agreed it's small fry, but the comparisons made are entirely incorrect.
Btw even with your amps, it is totally dependent on how efficient they are.
http://sound.westhost.com/efficiency.htm

FGI before you start insulting people, you obviously have no understanding of how electricity works, and how complex things get. If you knew your maths you wouldn't be making such ignorant statements.

... before I start insulting people?

man I was really hoping I wouldn't have to do this in this grow journal but seems like every time its gotta happen.
bubbleobill GTFO.
you are not welcome here I don't care about your nitty gritty details; good riddance. you have nothing to contribute nor will anything you say be taken as a contribution.

 

[dbo24242]

skip to post 17

 

[bubbleobill]

Umm no you don't get to be wrong and tell ppl to GTFO after insulting them in relation to something you obviously know nothing about.
All I have done is provide information, trying to help, and you have taken it as an insult as you were obviously after nothing but praise for your fake statistics.
Don't ask for feedback if you want blind praise from 16yo's.

 

[welsh wizz]

Put the pitch forks down.
Its about growing not discussing how to formulate power usage.

 

[bubbleobill]

Put the pitch forks down.
Its about growing not discussing how to formulate power usage.

600w + 15% = 690w Hortilux HPS Lamp
110w Centrifugal exhaust fan
20w air pump DWC buckets (current grow)
7w air pump clonebox
160w veg CFLS
50w clone CFL
40w other fans

total of about 1000w!

Is that a suspicious amount? Lets see here...

My computer subwoofer 500W
Each computer speaker, 200W
Surround system for the TV 550W,
my space heater on 24/7 (low) 600w,
computer ~200-300w
central heating, oh god too many W

I am out, this is just all too retarded. Enjoy your circle jerk.
kiss-ass

 

[dbo24242]

I am out, this is just all too retarded. Enjoy your circle jerk.
kiss-ass

great good for you I never insulted you. why are you posting here when you are not welcome? you are rude and delusional. now I insulted you.

those are the amps, they are beefy studio monitors. I'm pretty sure that is how wattage works, and yea I realize they won't run at full capacity, but the light will, the pumps will, and the fan at full blast will... soo uhhh think b4 u come round here tellin me whats what

yeah that isn't insulting at all. obviously bubbleobill didn't think. please, bubbleobill, this does not apply to you. you should not come around here at all, much less think about it since you've already rendered yourself incapable.

Umm no you don't get to be wrong and tell ppl to GTFO after insulting them in relation to something you obviously know nothing about.
All I have done is provide information, trying to help, and you have taken it as an insult as you were obviously after nothing but praise for your fake statistics.
Don't ask for feedback if you want blind praise from 16yo's.

now this is just too retarded... I didn't take it as an insult at all. I said I understand how it works and I wrote down the ratings. like the number you read off of the box. you really think its that complex?

its not...

really I just think you're jealous of my 900 watt sound system. yeah. it bumps. nicely.

edit: woops my mistake its 800w, the amp for the sub is only 400w...

 

[dbo24242]

veg area in action, this will shrink in size and just be the bubble cloner and pretty much they will spend a short time in 18/6 once they leave the cloner and then go into the flowering room. some of the clones here are pretty weak

square pots

Organicare pure earth - nice light fluffy soil

bubble cloner

Black Gold Cocoblend - too heavy when wet for cannabis.

 

[welsh wizz]

How long do they normally take to root in the cloner?

 

[dbo24242]

How long do they normally take to root in the cloner?

They can be ready to transplant as quickly as a week to ten days if the plant is in veg and the strain is susceptible; and I got those rates in rockwool. Bubbles are supposed to be faster, but the only clones I've done in bubbles were from flowering plants (just made the bubbler) so they take longer to re-veg and root.

lol.
I cant see a problem with your power usage at the rates and hrs used.

Yes I didn't see a problem either I really was just going off on some tangential thing about the electricity I use and how its not worry-some but lets just forget about that and move on hahaa...

 

[dbo24242]

check out my current crop (finishes in 4 weeks)

the prequel to this grow.