Closet CFL Grow - My First Grow

jgoembel

jgoembel

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rentjr said:
Im using Jungle Growth Premium Potting Mix. It says it has nutes 0.25-0.12-0.12. I dont know how long its supposed to feed for.
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maybe you can water/flush the soil through a few cycles while your start your seed in the peet pellets seperately. once your seed roots, stop watering soil and place the peet pellet in it once it drains off enough to not be drenched.

just a thought from another newb
 
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rentjr

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jgoembel said:
maybe you can water/flush the soil through a few cycles while your start your seed in the peet pellets seperately. once your seed roots, stop watering soil and place the peet pellet in it once it drains off enough to not be drenched.

just a thought from another newb
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Hey, thanks for stopping by my thread! I like new people :) Yeah, thats a pretty good idea, if I water the soil while the seed is rooting then by the time I transplant there wont be as many nutes. Thanks for that :)

+rep for you my friend.
 
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rentjr

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Shackleford.R said:
sup bro bro!!

THE THREAD IS HERE!!!

Shack's 125W CFL DIY Tent Grow

Creative title, heh? lmao!!

:peace:
Shack

PS sorry for being spammy, just want to make sure my fellow growers are checking it out!!
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No sweat man :) at least you're not trying to sell me a grow light :roll:

Im going on friday to get some peat pellets. Will the Jiffy 7 pellets work? I've never used them before, how long do they usually stay in the pellets and how often do I wtaer? Also, are peat pellets and rockwool the same thing?
 
Shackleford.R

Shackleford.R

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peat pellets and rockwool are COMPLETELY different. just google "rockwool wiki" and get a pretty good understanding.

peat pellets are as the name implies made of composted/dried peat moss. which makes them ideal for rooting because they retain a good mix of air/moisture. watering lightly once a day, just enough to keep her moist is all she will require. once roots poke through the netting that holds them together, you're ready for transplant. tried to find a video on their production, but couldn't :/ sorry!

rockwool on the other hand (pain in the ass IMO) is made from molten rock which is spun like cotton candy, into a sort of "wool" (rockwool, clever name!! lol) this makes them awesome for rooting. just imagine cotton candy, with all the air pockets and fibers closely knit together. now imagine if that cotton candy could retain moisture in those pockets without dissolving. creates a great root zone. i say they are a pain because you have to soak them over night to balance the pH (jiffy/peat pellets just soak em till they expand and they are good to go)

if you can understand what language they are speaking... this is how its made lol (by the way, this is for building insulation. but process is no different... i believe, some will correct me if i'm wrong. i'm sure of that!)

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also from a permaculture perspective, rockwool aren't very ecofriendly, i believe there are two companies producing them, both european so they have to be shipped (not eco-friendly) and they are made for one type of rock (not sure what it is) and its only found in a small handful of places.

then again, peat moss used for making peat pellets (and for peat moss used in gardening to enrich soils) is harvested out of somewhere in canada. so again big shipping/fuel costs and sort of non renewable. the amount peat moss needed to make a pellet is ridiculous and the stuff grows SLOOOOOW!!

neither factor really bothers me much. lmao. but because rockwool has to be soaked and pH balanced. i say go with the peat pellets!

:peace:
Shack

PS show your face in the new thread!
 
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rentjr

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Shackleford.R said:
hey how are things? haven't seen a post in awhile...

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Shack
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Hey shack, I asked about jiffy pellets at lowes and they said it was out of season but I got lucky and someone had returned a kit just before I got there. I came with a bamboo watering tray, 25 little pots (all stuck together in a tray, they are the compostable kind, it says they can be transplanted in the pots), pellets in each little pot and a plastic sheet to put over top during germination.

I read the package and it says that the pellets are coconut coir I filled 5 of them and planted the seeds straight into the medium.

Is there anything special I need to know about coconut coir? Also, can I transplant the little pot into the soil or should I not do that? I dont know if the roots will grow throught the walls of the little pot.

Thank you so much for all of your help. It's tough being a newb so you help means a lot to me. Ill rep ya again when I can :)
 
Shackleford.R

Shackleford.R

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transplanting those is a snap! you're right and you're wrong about the walls. after they've germed and are of decent size (since you have the little pots, you could basically let them become rootbound in their and get the most growth possible out of the jiffy pellets) i digress. after they've germed and you're ready to transplant. are the pots the type that are all one piece, the tear away kind? if they are, separate the pots, and they should be nice and moist still. using your fingers/nails tear away the bottom of the pot, so you expose the bottom of the "rootball" and transplant it that way. cover with about 1/4" soil you don't want to see the little pot lip on the surface. BAM! you're done. the roots will have easy access to the soil through the bottom, and as you water and roots grow here and there, the roots will naturally bust out the sides of the compostable pots.

sound good?

:peace:
Shack
 
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rentjr

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Shackleford.R said:
transplanting those is a snap! you're right and you're wrong about the walls. after they've germed and are of decent size (since you have the little pots, you could basically let them become rootbound in their and get the most growth possible out of the jiffy pellets) i digress. after they've germed and you're ready to transplant. are the pots the type that are all one piece, the tear away kind? if they are, separate the pots, and they should be nice and moist still. using your fingers/nails tear away the bottom of the pot, so you expose the bottom of the "rootball" and transplant it that way. cover with about 1/4" soil you don't want to see the little pot lip on the surface. BAM! you're done. the roots will have easy access to the soil through the bottom, and as you water and roots grow here and there, the roots will naturally bust out the sides of the compostable pots.

sound good?

:peace:
Shack
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Yeah, the pots are all stuck together but can be separated pretty easily, I just cut a row of 5 off from the rest. That's a great idea about tearing away the bottom of the pot!

An interesting thing happened with the ones I was growing before. I stopped watering them and had he lights shut off for about a week. I thought they would be dead but they actually grew almost 3 nodes each! they are each about 3" high now. Im gonna get rid of them anyway b/c they are all stressed to hell but I just thought it was cool that they still grew more even with no lights and no water.

Thanks a million shack!

P.S. Im gonna try to get some pics up tonight of my new stuff. Nothing really to look at but Im gonna start a new journal. Ill post the link here.
 
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Melizzard

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I've been having seedling problems ... so a couple tablespoons every day for the first little bit? How long is a first little bit?

Thanks!
(Have no bag seed and tired of ruining the good seeds ...)
Melissa

killerfingernails said:
just do it with every watering. be sure to keep the soil most for the seed tho! put a couple tablespoons of water on the seed/seedling for the first little bit. the seed needs to be moist or it will not break the soil
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