Never use vinegar

[binkkybrown]

Found out today from an old school grower that vinegar kills weed never use it with your crop. Trust me it killed mine today. R.I.P. my babies

 

[First Time Growin]

Or maybe you just didn't dilute the vinegar in water / used way to much.
You know it's only to adjust ph?

 

[cph]

LMAO!! I've used vinegar to get old wallpaper off the walls, but never thought about using to water my plants!!

 

[Roseman]

i've heard of growers using it to adjust pH down.

 

[shylas]

I've also heard of people using it in very small amounts. I wouldn't. don't have a reason to lol but people do.
If your trying to adjust ph get garden lime or ph up/ down from a hydro store . Don't ever add stuff
unless you know the exact amount your supposed to use or if your supposed to use it at all. Lesson learned lol
People are always willing to help on here so I would ask here 1st.
truely sorry for your loss

 

[binkkybrown]

Yeah I know now, I should have asked my GURU she is like 66 years old she is awesome. But yeah never use vinegar in any amount not one drop. I am crushed by what has happened but they were bag seeds and only 2 week old sprouts but I still had love for them I am building a new grow room now and getting new clf lights friday so this time no bootleg stuff.

 

[Johnnyorganic]

Vinegar is an organic herbicide. Good for weed control. Especially good for organic gardeners because it neutralizes and dissipates quickly so no permanent damage is done to the soil once the offending weeds are killed.

It's too bad about your plants. Lesson learned.

Good luck and good growing.

 

[shylas]

lol bootleg stuff.....cfls? huh? I wish more ppl would use em.. you can get really good results
if you know what your doing. mh & hps are not the end all be all
I know i've seen some impressive pics from a grow roseman did.
I'm sure theres alot of others on here too, so check out
some successfull cfl setups before you start all that. Good Luck!!

 

[b0110ck5]

Yeah I know now, I should have asked my GURU she is like 66 years old she is awesome. But yeah never use vinegar in any amount not one drop. I am crushed by what has happened but they were bag seeds and only 2 week old sprouts but I still had love for them I am building a new grow room now and getting new clf lights friday so this time no bootleg stuff.

While I agree that vinegar can be ill-used and can kill your plants, but that can also be said about a lot of things.

I'd recommend getting a good, digital pH meter and begin testing everything that goes into (or runs out of) your pots. After you know what things look like (pH-wise) coming and going, you can then apply some of the pH wisdom from this place and others. I've used Baking Soda (not Baking Powder) for pH Up and white vinegar for pH Down. When using them in conjunction with my digital pH meter, they work great for keeping my feeding/watering within recommended pH ranges.

Like many others here (I suspect), I believe white vinegar is a good, low-profile/low-cost means of adjusting pH for watering. I'm sorry to hear about the loss of your plants, but let's not compound the mistake by giving the erroneous impression that vinegar in any quantity is toxic to MJ plants. It's just not true, at least from my experience.

 

[Lil Czr]

Vinegar is perfectly safe to use in soil IF you use it correctly. Soil is a very efficient buffer.

Thought I can't speak for hydro users, I'd think that a little would go a long way!

 

[shylas]

Marty fucking feldman... love it lil czr

 

[binkkybrown]

I got a meter that reads PH, Light, and Moisture from lows (free baby) I was going to order all my new stuff from stealthhydroponics.com but I am just going to get the stuff I need from LOWs I get paid friday and this time I want to do everything right I will keep a very in depth grow journal this time. And as for the vinegar people just be careful we should all be careful with our children, they deserve it. I am still going to use bag seeds I am afraid of the US Postal Service. I think any bud can be good if grown right, Plus I anything will be better than this dirt weed that we are smoking in east texas. (full of seeds) GOD I miss living in Germany

 

[shylas]

seriously buying seed is perfectly safe. theres about 2000 other
ppl on here that would tell u the same....

but your right about the bagseed anything can be good if you grow it right. I've grown amazing weed outa the worst dirt ass regs

 

[potberto]

I've used white vinegar mixed with distilled water as a PH down solution many times with no ill effects.

 

[gangjababy]

Yeah I know now, I should have asked my GURU she is like 66 years old she is awesome. But yeah never use vinegar in any amount not one drop. I am crushed by what has happened but they were bag seeds and only 2 week old sprouts but I still had love for them I am building a new grow room now and getting new clf lights friday so this time no bootleg stuff.

I've been using vinegar for over a year no. I have had no issues whatsoever. I only need a ml or so per gallon to adjust properly.
How did you apply your vinegar, are you sure it wasn't overfert or overwatering that killed them?

 

[tokinman]

DISTILLED WHITE VINEGAR is the one vinegar you can use to down ph. in weed. normally 1 tsp /gallon of water will drop ph 1 point.. idk about other vinegar's, but i read distilled white is the only stuff safe to use for plants..

 

[binkkybrown]

I think the problem was that I tryed to change the ph to quickly have a ph meter in the soil and I pored my (unmeasured) ph down solution in the soil the meter went from 7.2 to 6.5 thats a big jump in one watering and I put drops of vinegar on the soil and that was kinda of stupid know that I am really thinking about it. This is the first time I got high in like 2 day and now all of it seems so clear now.

 

[gangjababy]

I got a meter that reads PH, Light, and Moisture from lows (free baby) I was going to order all my new stuff from stealthhydroponics.com but I am just going to get the stuff I need from LOWs I get paid friday and this time I want to do everything right I will keep a very in depth grow journal this time. And as for the vinegar people just be careful we should all be careful with our children, they deserve it. I am still going to use bag seeds I am afraid of the US Postal Service. I think any bud can be good if grown right, Plus I anything will be better than this dirt weed that we are smoking in east texas. (full of seeds) GOD I miss living in Germany

Do yourself a favor and throw that meter out. Use a pH tester for a pool, the one with the red drops. And use your finger as a moisture meter.
Buying seeds is perfectly safe, the us postal service needs a warrant to look through packages.

I am 100% confident that vinegar did not kill your plants. You never said what kind of soil you were using. Figure out where you went wrong before doing it again...

 

[Johnnyorganic]

Vinegar As a Natural Weed Killer

For organic gardening, vinegar can function as a handy natural weed killer. It's the acetic acid in vinegar that gives it the power to kill weeds. The higher the percentage of acetic acid in the vinegar, the better it will operate as a natural weed killer, technically speaking. Vinegar used for culinary purposes is relatively low (5%) in acetic acid, so repeated applications will be necessary when using it as a natural weed killer.

Vinegar As Natural Weed Killer: Limitations

If you're battling lawn weeds, take care to apply the vinegar directly onto the weeds themselves, not letting it come into contact with your grass. Why? Because the fact that vinegar is a natural weed killer doesn't mean it can't be harmful if misused. Vinegar is non-selective, and this natural weed killer can harm your grass!

To avoid damage to grass, consider "painting" the vinegar directly onto weeds with a brush. If you do spray with vinegar, don't pull the trigger until you're right up close to the targeted weed. Don't spray on a windy day, as the wind could carry your vinegar spray where you don't want it to go -- on your grass.

Because of this limitation, I don't think of vinegar as being an especially effective natural weed killer for lawn areas. It makes more sense to use vinegar in areas where lawn grass and other landscaping plants won't be in the way, such as on patios or walkways (where you have weeds pushing up through cracks).

But if you're already in the process of digging a dandelion out of the lawn, it wouldn't hurt to supplement your efforts with vinegar. After you've removed as much of the taproot as possible, carefully pour some vinegar into the hole. The vinegar will seep down into the soil, killing any portions of taproot you may have missed. Afterwards, shovel soil into the hole and sow grass seed on top, lest any opportunistic weed seeds should fill the vacuum.

There's another limitation in using vinegar as a natural weed killer, but this limitation extends to chemical weed killers, as well: namely, that you'll probably have to re-apply the vinegar to get the job done, as weeds often refuse to go quietly. This is especially true of established perennial weeds, toughened by years of coping with environmental challenges; vinegar will be more effective on younger weeds.

But considering that vinegar is safe and relatively inexpensive, this objection is hardly a telling argument against the use of vinegar as a natural weed killer. If your goal is to use a natural weed killer, one assumes that you'll be motivated to make repeated applications, as necessary.

Vinegar As Natural Weed Killer: When to Apply

When practicing natural weed control, take to heart the dictum, Know thine enemy! Study up on the weeds you're battling before you use the vinegar on them. Target annual weeds with your vinegar natural weed killer before they set seed, to prevent them from spawning a new generation to give you headaches next year.

By contrast, early fall is the best time to use this natural weed killer on perennial weeds. Early fall is when you'll want to apply vinegar to dandelions (but snap off the flowers whenever they appear, to prevent them from going to seed in the meantime). Dandelions, although their leaves die back in winter, do live on through their roots. So preventing them from going to seed isn't enough.

Fortunately, knowing a little botany can help you considerably in your battle with perennial weeds like dandelions. You see, in early fall, nutrients are transferred from the dandelion leaves down to the roots. This transfer, which continues until the first killing frost, presents you with an opportunity to hit dandelions where it really hurts! Vinegar natural weed killer applied during this time is absorbed by the leaves and passed on to the roots, following the same path down as the nutrients. The plants are killed -- naturally. Repeated applications may be necessary.

Vinegar As Natural Weed Killer: How to Apply

Listen to your local forecast, and find out when your region will be experiencing a few continuous days of sunshine. At the beginning of this period, spray or paint the vinegar onto the weeds you wish to kill.
Why is a sunny period required? Two reasons:

1. You need to saturate the weeds' leaves with the vinegar, and rain would wash too much of the vinegar off the foliage.
2. The real damage to the sprayed weeds begins the next couple of days after the application, when the sun hits the leaves.

Some people who use vinegar as a natural weed killer like to boil the vinegar, prior to application. Through such boiling, you may actually be able to gain a concentrate higher in acetic acid, although I haven't yet experimented with this option in any scientific way. But it certainly can't hurt to boil the vinegar; in fact, many folks report success killing weeds by simply pouring scalding water on weeds! So I suppose the use of boiled vinegar allows you to attack weeds on an additional front.

Vinegar As Natural Weed Killer: The Stronger Stuff

It is possible to buy products with a higher acetic acid content than that found in ordinary vinegar. Such products can be purchased at farmer's stores or from restaurant supply businesses. But the potency of these acetic acid products can render them less safe to use than household vinegar. To me, that puts them at odds with the whole concept of using "natural weed killers." Besides, you have to go out of your way to find these products, and the idea behind the present article was to introduce a handy natural weed killer, something you can just pull off a kitchen shelf and experiment with.

Other Uses for Vinegar

Those of you who have held an ongoing grudge against vinegar for its ability to make your mouth pucker may finally be able to grant vinegar forgiveness. For that same sourness makes vinegar the natural weed killer of choice for organic gardening. Vinegar can also be used for cleaning purposes around the home, as an alternative to chemical cleaners.

So if you rarely open that vinegar jug for purposes of seasoning your food, don't despair: The uses for vinegar extend well beyond the culinary.

http://landscaping.about.com/od/weedsdiseases/qt/vinegar_weeds.htm

 

[gangjababy]

were not talking about pouring vinegar directly in the soil or on the plants.
We are talking about using a few milliliters in the water to porperly adjust the pH.