rbahadosingh
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i know its not one of the strains you listed but i say Purple Kush.
Bubblelicious, New York Power Diesel, and Super Skunk in DWC
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wonderblunder
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ve got PK coming. Crossing my fingers for a fem
Looks like Ice is the pick, going to start germing some seeds either tonight or tomorrow - still need to get the veg tent setup; really, really been dragging my feet on that. Just need to build one more support and it should be all ready to rock 'n roll, we'll see.
In the meantime, got the camera back last night and took some pics right before lights came on of the ladies.
Really quick though, I'll show you my new dehumidifier setup.
Got tired of emptying out the bucket three times a day, and also of finding 94% humidity in there when it would shut-off because the bucket wasn't emptied, so set it up for constant drainage.
The green hose drains into the bottom of what used to be a toolbox, and then the 185GPH pump comes on to pump the water into my clean water trash can - it's on the same timer as my flood table pump, which is every two hours fro 9:00pm to 9:00am and then once at 3:00pm.
Now, here's pics of the ladies (the last one was taken when the light was first starting up, which is why it looks kinda pink). Other then that, no complaints - the iron deficiency is fixed, and the canopy is relatively even (as much as can be expected).
Questions, comments, and criticisms are always welcome.
In the meantime, got the camera back last night and took some pics right before lights came on of the ladies.
Really quick though, I'll show you my new dehumidifier setup.
Got tired of emptying out the bucket three times a day, and also of finding 94% humidity in there when it would shut-off because the bucket wasn't emptied, so set it up for constant drainage.
The green hose drains into the bottom of what used to be a toolbox, and then the 185GPH pump comes on to pump the water into my clean water trash can - it's on the same timer as my flood table pump, which is every two hours fro 9:00pm to 9:00am and then once at 3:00pm.
Now, here's pics of the ladies (the last one was taken when the light was first starting up, which is why it looks kinda pink). Other then that, no complaints - the iron deficiency is fixed, and the canopy is relatively even (as much as can be expected).
Questions, comments, and criticisms are always welcome.
Was thinking of changing my 12/12 schedule from 9:00pm to 9:00am back to 9:00am to 9:00pm - a large reason I've been dragging my feet on this veg tent is because I'm hesitant to go in there and turn on a bunch of lights (yes, they're in a tent, but no tent is 100% light-proof).
Also, that schedule is more designed for summertime, when battling high temps, so the question is this:
Anyone see an issue with just leaving the lights off until 9:00am tomorrow? Basically, 24 hours of darkness, 9:00am today until 9:00am tomorrow. I'm damn sure it won't be much of an issue if at all, but would appreciate confirmation of this or someone telling me that I'm wrong about it.
This time schedule will also allow me to care for the plants better, so it's a win-win.
BTW, went through my third bottle of CO2 last night, and the refill place isn't open today, so I'll be heading there tomorrow.
Looking at generators as we speak, although I'd love to find on on Craiglist for cheap.
Also, that schedule is more designed for summertime, when battling high temps, so the question is this:
Anyone see an issue with just leaving the lights off until 9:00am tomorrow? Basically, 24 hours of darkness, 9:00am today until 9:00am tomorrow. I'm damn sure it won't be much of an issue if at all, but would appreciate confirmation of this or someone telling me that I'm wrong about it.
This time schedule will also allow me to care for the plants better, so it's a win-win.
BTW, went through my third bottle of CO2 last night, and the refill place isn't open today, so I'll be heading there tomorrow.
Looking at generators as we speak, although I'd love to find on on Craiglist for cheap.
This was posted in another thread, but thought it'd be worthwhile to put in here for anyone considering adding CO2 (as well as if anyone wants to check my math).
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Originally Posted by smokingrubber
I thought you just refilled those? How long are the tanks lasting? Please keep us informed on your generator hunt. "WE" need one that doesn't have to be in the tent. Have to make sure filling the propane bottles isn't more frequent and more $ than filling the Co2 tanks.
I refilled them the first (and only, so far) time (hold on, checking picture dates) on October 27th, but didn't start using my big tent until November 10th.
So, have gone through three tanks in about 30 days, but to be fair, 24 of those days were vegging with the CO2 running 24/7, and the first tank that I put on I installed incorrectly and let a lot of the gas out.
Regardless, propane is much, much, much more efficient then bottled CO2.
Using the link below and running some numbers (one pound of liquid CO2 is equivalent to 7 pounds of gaseous CO2, so each 20# tank gives you 140 cubic feet of gas), the numbers are overwhelming.
One 25# tank of propane will get me 2700 cubic feet of CO2, whereas each 20 pound bottle gets me 140. That's more then 19 times as efficient.
https://www.greenair.com/page/co2-ge...ing-chart.html
EDIT: even taking into account that the delivery system for CO2 is more efficient with a regulator and tanks, it's nowhere near worth the time and money of getting them refilled every 30-50 days. Also, there's nothing shady about getting a propane tank filled, whereas I'm anticipating some shady looks from the welding supply store guys already, and am somewhat dreading if I have to go again in another month or two.
Quote:
Originally Posted by smokingrubber
I thought you just refilled those? How long are the tanks lasting? Please keep us informed on your generator hunt. "WE" need one that doesn't have to be in the tent. Have to make sure filling the propane bottles isn't more frequent and more $ than filling the Co2 tanks.
I refilled them the first (and only, so far) time (hold on, checking picture dates) on October 27th, but didn't start using my big tent until November 10th.
So, have gone through three tanks in about 30 days, but to be fair, 24 of those days were vegging with the CO2 running 24/7, and the first tank that I put on I installed incorrectly and let a lot of the gas out.
Regardless, propane is much, much, much more efficient then bottled CO2.
Using the link below and running some numbers (one pound of liquid CO2 is equivalent to 7 pounds of gaseous CO2, so each 20# tank gives you 140 cubic feet of gas), the numbers are overwhelming.
One 25# tank of propane will get me 2700 cubic feet of CO2, whereas each 20 pound bottle gets me 140. That's more then 19 times as efficient.
https://www.greenair.com/page/co2-ge...ing-chart.html
EDIT: even taking into account that the delivery system for CO2 is more efficient with a regulator and tanks, it's nowhere near worth the time and money of getting them refilled every 30-50 days. Also, there's nothing shady about getting a propane tank filled, whereas I'm anticipating some shady looks from the welding supply store guys already, and am somewhat dreading if I have to go again in another month or two.
smokingrubber
Well-Known Member
Could you bump it a little each day? 14 hr dark and 12 hr light each day for 6 days. Less stress maybe. I don't THINK 24hr of dark would hurt, but small changes are always safer.
Thanks for the input, boys - just gonna go with 24 hours of dark.
Smoking, your way might work, but I think that actually might lead to a greater chance of issues then simply going 24 hours off (plus it's a lot more work, and I'm a lazy sonuvabitch).
Trying to decide if I need to put a heater in my veg reservoir (temps are getting down to 55 in the garage, which would mean 50 in the reservoir) - according to the thread I'm reading, this guy claims that he likes the reservoir temps to get as low as possible, and shoots for 55 - his pics speak for themselves.
https://www.rollitup.org/grow-journals/237271-lucas-formula-hydroponic-grow-journal.html
Smoking, your way might work, but I think that actually might lead to a greater chance of issues then simply going 24 hours off (plus it's a lot more work, and I'm a lazy sonuvabitch).
Trying to decide if I need to put a heater in my veg reservoir (temps are getting down to 55 in the garage, which would mean 50 in the reservoir) - according to the thread I'm reading, this guy claims that he likes the reservoir temps to get as low as possible, and shoots for 55 - his pics speak for themselves.
https://www.rollitup.org/grow-journals/237271-lucas-formula-hydroponic-grow-journal.html
cazador
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On the subject of CO2... which is very much on my mind these days. I want to get. While I have no experience as of yet, I am playing with my LP heater in the room and can say it brings my levels up very quickly. I think this small LP tank could last for a very very long time. I have no real data yet but can see that it only takes 5-10 mins to raise the PPMs to 1500 and they stay there for quite some time. I am going to start to log more info when I have the time to just sit around and watch. I will get a generator at some point soon, but am researching a way to put one together myself as I think they are a bit pricey. I'd like to hear more about all your thoughts on using a tank too. (I don't want to steal the thread but Bob did bring it up) 
When you say "using a take", did you mean "using a tank"?
If so, couldn't really be much easier - just hook it up to my Sentinel, set the PPMs, and it does the rest; I'm assuming that the generator won't be quite as simple or keep my PPMs in as tight of a band around 1500 (+/- 75) - I think with a generator it'll be more like +/- 200 (but that's a pure guess).
And no worries about jacking the thread, I welcome open discussion of anything and everything growing related (just no healthcare reform talk, social security, war effort, etc.).
EDIT: haven't the foggiest of how to build one, but I believe I'm going to order this one shortly (within a couple of days):
http://cgi.ebay.com/CAP-GEN-1-CO2-GENERATOR-BURNER_W0QQitemZ360205409854QQcmdZViewItemQQptZLH_DefaultDomain_0?hash=item53ddea5e3e
Wondering if anyone knows anything about it, and also what people who know about these things thoughts were on the electronic ignition for an extra $50 - is it worth it, are they reliable (vs. a pilot), etc.
DOUBLE EDIT: And also anything else that I'd need to order in addition to that to start making my own CO2 (besides a propane tank, I'll grab two or three from Home Depot next time I'm there). Also, anyone know of anywhere that has the ozone generator below in stock? Every place I've looked says it's on backorder until the middle or end of December.
http://www.businesslights.com/cap-ozn1-ozone-generator-up-to-5500-sq-ft-p-1865.html
If so, couldn't really be much easier - just hook it up to my Sentinel, set the PPMs, and it does the rest; I'm assuming that the generator won't be quite as simple or keep my PPMs in as tight of a band around 1500 (+/- 75) - I think with a generator it'll be more like +/- 200 (but that's a pure guess).
And no worries about jacking the thread, I welcome open discussion of anything and everything growing related (just no healthcare reform talk, social security, war effort, etc.).
EDIT: haven't the foggiest of how to build one, but I believe I'm going to order this one shortly (within a couple of days):
http://cgi.ebay.com/CAP-GEN-1-CO2-GENERATOR-BURNER_W0QQitemZ360205409854QQcmdZViewItemQQptZLH_DefaultDomain_0?hash=item53ddea5e3e
Wondering if anyone knows anything about it, and also what people who know about these things thoughts were on the electronic ignition for an extra $50 - is it worth it, are they reliable (vs. a pilot), etc.
DOUBLE EDIT: And also anything else that I'd need to order in addition to that to start making my own CO2 (besides a propane tank, I'll grab two or three from Home Depot next time I'm there). Also, anyone know of anywhere that has the ozone generator below in stock? Every place I've looked says it's on backorder until the middle or end of December.
http://www.businesslights.com/cap-ozn1-ozone-generator-up-to-5500-sq-ft-p-1865.html
cazador
Active Member
I'm not cheap by nature but I like to check out my options first. I would like some thoughts on this idea. A LP wall heater (I found this for $90 on another site.) http://www.bigedgesports.com/product.asp?pid=2335105&rf=gbase
I suppose if you can place it on a wall you can hang it too. I think taking out the ceramic flame catch will prevent it from pushing the heat forward. Only need to run it for a few mins at a time. I think your right about not being able to keep the PPMs in as tight of a band. When my controller hits 1300 I turn the heater off and it still climbs to 1500+
I suppose if you can place it on a wall you can hang it too. I think taking out the ceramic flame catch will prevent it from pushing the heat forward. Only need to run it for a few mins at a time. I think your right about not being able to keep the PPMs in as tight of a band. When my controller hits 1300 I turn the heater off and it still climbs to 1500+
cazador
Active Member
Ok, I see that the piezo ignition will not work for what I need but I do see similar models that connect to a thermostat, provide blue flame instead of the radiant for around $159
http://www.stpaulmercantile.com/index.php?action=store&page=ProcomWallFloor
what do you think? what's the difference? thanks.
http://www.stpaulmercantile.com/index.php?action=store&page=ProcomWallFloor
what do you think? what's the difference? thanks.
smokingrubber
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Yeah, unless you're REAL familiar with that kind of thing . . . I'd drop the $ too!
EDIT: Kudos for the DIY thought. It might work, but there has to be SOME reason no one else is doing it?
Yeah, just emailed the guy on eBay, and as soon as he confirms that it's in stock I'm going to order it - hopefully tonight.
Also, waiting to get some responses to this thread just to confirm that using a generator with a tent is a feasible:
https://www.rollitup.org/grow-room-design-setup/280852-co2-generator-sentinel-chhc-1-a.html
Also, waiting to get some responses to this thread just to confirm that using a generator with a tent is a feasible:
https://www.rollitup.org/grow-room-design-setup/280852-co2-generator-sentinel-chhc-1-a.html
cazador
Active Member
I hear ya.
I just don't see any difference. A flame is a flame. It burns and turns into heat, CO2 and water.
If I go this route I'll let you know how it goes if your interested. Not sure if I'm there yet.
I'll try to wait to see how Mr. Smith likes his new generator.
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OK I have been looking at vent-less LP wall heaters to use as a LP CO2 generator and would like some feedback.
The cheapest CO Generators I see are around $500.
https://www.greenair.com/product/cd-3lp.html
and only put out about 3Cu.Ft. of CO2
According to the chart, 3Cu.Ft. of CO2 causes 2183 BTUs of heat to be given off.
A $150.00, 10,000 BTU Vent-less wall heater should put out about 14Cu.Ft. of CO2. Not bad.
http://www.stpaulmercantile.com/inde...rocomWallFloor
What do you all think about this?
Thanks.
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I just don't see any difference. A flame is a flame. It burns and turns into heat, CO2 and water.
If I go this route I'll let you know how it goes if your interested. Not sure if I'm there yet.
I'll try to wait to see how Mr. Smith likes his new generator.
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OK I have been looking at vent-less LP wall heaters to use as a LP CO2 generator and would like some feedback.
The cheapest CO Generators I see are around $500.
https://www.greenair.com/product/cd-3lp.html
and only put out about 3Cu.Ft. of CO2
According to the chart, 3Cu.Ft. of CO2 causes 2183 BTUs of heat to be given off.
A $150.00, 10,000 BTU Vent-less wall heater should put out about 14Cu.Ft. of CO2. Not bad.
http://www.stpaulmercantile.com/inde...rocomWallFloor
What do you all think about this?
Thanks.
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I'm not sure what you mean by "vent-less" generators?
And you're probably right about a flame being a flame, but I'm just gonna err on the safe side and buy a generator designed for CO2.
And in terms of cost this one that I'm about to order (sometime tonight, the seller has confirmed that it's available, so I'm just waiting for a response or two to my thread to make sure that they'll work with a tent) is only $315, delivered to my door.
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=360205409854
EDIT: also waiting to hear if the electronic ignition for $50 is a worthwhile option - not sure what value it would add, and (for whatever reason) it seems like it'd be less dependable then a good old pilot flame.
And you're probably right about a flame being a flame, but I'm just gonna err on the safe side and buy a generator designed for CO2.
And in terms of cost this one that I'm about to order (sometime tonight, the seller has confirmed that it's available, so I'm just waiting for a response or two to my thread to make sure that they'll work with a tent) is only $315, delivered to my door.
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=360205409854
EDIT: also waiting to hear if the electronic ignition for $50 is a worthwhile option - not sure what value it would add, and (for whatever reason) it seems like it'd be less dependable then a good old pilot flame.
cazador
Active Member
Not a bad deal at all. I didn't want to suggest that you do it. I totally understand paying the $ for a CO2 Gen. I may do it soon myself. I just thought they might be doing the same thing and that I could get one on craigslist for around $50-75. They should be safe to run and easy to hook up too. Just what I was thinking for myself and wanted to hear what you all might think about it. Thanks I'll drop it now.
smokingrubber
Well-Known Member
Bob, where are you going to put it? It has to have at least 18" of clearance in all directions. Up and down too. Nothing flamable (weed) near it. And it's big. Are you just going to hang it in the greenhouse and soak the area? That may make it difficult using the sentinal inside the tent. Just thinking out loud.
Not an effing clue, my man, not an effing clue.
Gonna order it tonight, wait for it to be delivered, then figure out what the hell to do with it.
Pretty sure I can just rest it on the floor, no? I don't believe it has to be mounted, but if it does, I'll figure something out.
One thing's for certain, and that's the fact that I'm getting rid of bottled CO2 and trips to refill tanks.