Bubblelicious, New York Power Diesel, and Super Skunk in DWC

Integra21 said:

keeppluging away at it. I feel your pain, over the last couple weeks I have doing the finishing touches on my new veg room, double checking all of my layout and equipment for the flower room changes, and designed and built a 1200w room for a buddy. His shit turned out real pimp. I'll be putting pics of that up soon. Its basically just a larger scale of my setup in a room of normal height. But like I said, frickin sweet. Only one 600w in there now until he gets the hang of taking care of plants. We just droped 4 of my Blue Kush clones in there today.

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Very kind of you. Good friends are HARD to find! Hope he appreciates it. +rep. Can't wait to see the pics. I too love building shit with other people's money

Can't wait to see some pics, man

And as far as "wrestling with a tent", that phrase doesn't do it justice - was basically swinging the tent around like a baseball bat trying to get it to fit in-between ceiling beams.

Was just going to saw the beams off at one point, but then just cut the legs on my stand shorter.

Long story short, making progress and the end is in sight - FYI, killed the sativa mama, so the only two plants that will be in the new veg tent will be the indica mama and a super skunk mama, until I get my clone setup going, hopefully by tomorrow.

Bob Smith said:

Can't wait to see some pics, man

And as far as "wrestling with a tent", that phrase doesn't do it justice - was basically swinging the tent around like a baseball bat trying to get it to fit in-between ceiling beams.

Was just going to saw the beams off at one point, but then just cut the legs on my stand shorter.

Long story short, making progress and the end is in sight - FYI, killed the sativa mama, so the only two plants that will be in the new veg tent will be the indica mama and a super skunk mama, until I get my clone setup going, hopefully by tomorrow.

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I hope you got video of that! Those are moments when having a friend or two can really come in handy. Did you try taking it apart and assembling it while it was on the table? I know, "don't fit" = "don't friggin fit mf" but Im just sayin. I know my tent was a mf to build and I'm 6'4" (would be easier the second time now I know what I'm doing).

Can't wait to see video of "Veg-Majal"

smokingrubber said:

I hope you got video of that! Those are moments when having a friend or two can really come in handy. Did you try taking it apart and assembling it while it was on the table? I know, "don't fit" = "don't friggin fit mf" but Im just sayin. I know my tent was a mf to build and I'm 6'4" (would be easier the second time now I know what I'm doing).

Can't wait to see video of "Veg-Majal"

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Lol..............I have tons of friends (too many, sometimes), but I take rule #1 quite seriously, which means that I'm the only one who ever goes in the garage (or knows about it).

And I would've loved to take video for you, but even I (I'm 6'3, 230) needed to use both hands to swing that tent around like a ragdoll - long story short, I mis-measured by two inches, so chopped four inches off of the legs, and it fit fine - means that my reservoir will not be fully under it, but I'm not too worried about that.

Honestly shouldn't take me much longer, and I'm gonna run out to grab the other 2x4 tray and pump for the tent in an hour or two - hoping to have it completely finished by 3:00, when it's happy hour on my poker site.

BTW, have made about $15K in the past month (straight cash games, no "big score" at a tournament or anything like that), which is always nice around Christmas time - giving serious thought to just playing poker full time and growing weed, as opposed to ever working for someone again.

We'll see though.

I build my own tents out of pvc and poly to avoid that frustration, but that brings around some new frustration of its own sometimes. but the $ saving factor and having it custom fit to where ever its going makes it my best option. the other reason I build and grow the way I do, is I can make my whole room disappear in about 5 minutes if I have to, plants and all.

Integra21 said:

I build my own tents out of pvc and poly to avoid that frustration, but that brings around some new frustration of its own sometimes. but the $ saving factor and having it custom fit to where ever its going makes it my best option. the other reason I build and grow the way I do, is I can make my whole room disappear in about 5 minutes if I have to, plants and all.

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Was thinking about that for my next upgrade (which will be an 8x4 setup with 2 1Ks) - in all honesty, thought, I like the heavier weight of the tents (compared to panda film), so I'll probably just buy another Sun Hut.

If I were to custom build one, I might run 4 600s over two 6x6 tables, but I think that's probably more trouble then it's worth.

a good argument about that being the right way to go is that 600w lights are the most efficient(lumen/watt) out of all of the hids. Thats why I used them in my buddys setup, I would have used them myself, but I dont think my height will allow it.

Integra21 said:

a good argument about that being the right way to go is that 600w lights are the most efficient(lumen/watt) out of all of the hids. Thats why I used them in my buddys setup, I would have used them myself, but I dont think my height will allow it.

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Truthfully, I've never understood that argument - that held true back in the day, but with today's technology, I don't believe it does.

150,000 lumens/1000 watts = 150 L/W

90,000/600 watts = 150 L/W

Now I realize that a 1000 watt actually uses like 1100 watts, but still, that's negligible to me.

Also, I like the denser nugs and increased light penetration - the only reason not to use 1Ks is because of heat, and it seems like I've got that problem solved (until summertime, at least).

All right, break time's over, back to work

Bob Smith said:

Truthfully, I've never understood that argument - that held true back in the day, but with today's technology, I don't believe it does.

150,000 lumens/1000 watts = 150 L/W

90,000/600 watts = 150 L/W

Now I realize that a 1000 watt actually uses like 1100 watts, but still, that's negligible to me.

Also, I like the denser nugs and increased light penetration - the only reason not to use 1Ks is because of heat, and it seems like I've got that problem solved (until summertime, at least).

All right, break time's over, back to work

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its real close to that, but you are using the brightest 1000w bulb specs and not the brightest 600w. Only a small difference, but it still makes the point valid
150,000 from 1000w=150l/w
95,000 from 600w=158l/w
so it is barely noticable, but there, and a better comparison would be the horilux bulbs since they seem to be everyones favorites at
145,000 from 1000w=145l/w
88,000 from 600w=147l/w
again, the difference is there, just barely noticable, but it makes the statement of most efficient true. Giving the 600w and extra 960lumens when compared to the 1000w.

Was making some decent progress, then realized that I need to setup the top of the tent before I put any trays/stands in, and then started to duct tape stuff until I realized that worm drive clamps (thanks Twils) work much, much better.

So, heading to Home Depot to grab some, which should take me about right up to 3:00pm poker time, and then the old lady gets home, so my progress for the rest of the day will be limited.

Anyways, charged my camera battery and took some random pics..........



The last pic is the sativa mother which I tossed.



Old airstones, the two 2x4 trays that are going in there, and some nutes, a pump, and an aquarium heater that I bought. The yellow bottle is a freebie.



Pics of the ladies - they're doing great, and drinking a few gallons a day now - rez is at 5.6pH, 1200PPMs (2.4EC). Still just topping off with R/O water and nute'ing and pH'ing from there.



It's a fugging mess in my garage, can barely move in there.

So, that's about it - heading to Home Depot to get some worm drive clamps, a small electric heater for the tent, and 10' of 1/2" tubing, if they have it.

Girls are looking happy Bob. How many days into flower are you now? I know you just flipped, still curious though.

I flipped on Dec. 1, so 8 or 9 days, I guess - hoping the stretch stops soon, the tallest seedling is already within 12" of the light.

On another note, was going to say screw poker today and just finish the tent, but my girl's got a ton of stuff today when she gets home, so I'll resume work when poker's done at 5:00pm.

Should at least get the mothers in there today - tested out the tray and two buckets (for clones) on the bottom, and even though it's tight, it fits.

EDIT: shooting to have the cloning buckets setup for tomorrow, when I trim off the lower parts of all the flowering girls - need to get that done ASAP so there's no waiting time between harvest and starting off my next crop.

looking great bob. They are really coming along. Next time you snap shots of the flowering girls, can you take some at lights out. Would love to see the color and health of these girls and the light makes it hard. Keep on building and it has to be done eventually. Did i miss it, you picked your next strain to grow right? I forgot to say my vote was Ice. Later, hope you clean house on poker tonight.

You have a digital ballast. Are they really dead quiet and put off better power than magnetic? Just wondering.

yeah, I'm running a Lumatek 400w, it runs completely silent. It gets fairly warm, so I keep it out of the room, but I am very pleased with the performance. Havent had any problems in the 6 months I've had it. I have no way of comparing actual light output, but I can say that when people take pics with magnetics, sometimes you get those weird lines through the photos, but have never seen that happen with digital.

I had a digital for both my 400 and 1000, and they work great.

Flooded my 100, so had to get a magnetic - haven't noticed any difference yet, save that the cheapo ballast I bought gets a lot warmer.

Already up about $1K in poker after an hour, so might quit early today and get back to building.

Integra, it looks like the votes are in for Ice - wanna get my tent setup before I pop them, but hopefully will throw them in some water tonight.

Also, no problem on the pics with lights out, will take and post tomorrow morning.

Bob Smith said:

Truthfully, I've never understood that argument - that held true back in the day, but with today's technology, I don't believe it does.

150,000 lumens/1000 watts = 150 L/W

90,000/600 watts = 150 L/W

Now I realize that a 1000 watt actually uses like 1100 watts, but still, that's negligible to me.

Also, I like the denser nugs and increased light penetration - the only reason not to use 1Ks is because of heat, and it seems like I've got that problem solved (until summertime, at least).

All right, break time's over, back to work

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Besides lumen per watt, Does anyone think inverse square law has a factor, not in efficiency but in effectiveness. Meaning the distance, and number of light sources.

Dangledo, not really sure what you're asking.

As a quick update, did a solid few hours in the garage, the tent's coming together nicely - took pics along the way, I'll post tomorrow morning before I start finishing up the work.

Actually coming together as good as I could've hoped, kinda stoked on it.

Night all.

Hey Bob Veg tent overhaul complete over here. Pics are uploading now!

Hope you guys got before/after shots for us.