unidentified insect...with pics.

swazifarmer

swazifarmer

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Could be predatory mites, which are excellent they eat spider-mites and fungus gnats and all other bugs without eating your plant.
 
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thesleep

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I'm pretty sure these are not aphids. I have these bugs too. You would know if it were aphids because they would be shitting EVERYWHERE and you would be asking us why there's so much POOP all over your plants. I have some aphids on my kale outside.
 
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oasis515

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thesleep said:
I'm pretty sure these are not aphids. I have these bugs too. You would know if it were aphids because they would be shitting EVERYWHERE and you would be asking us why there's so much POOP all over your plants. I have some aphids on my kale outside.
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I pooped on your kale:fire:
 
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bullsnake1

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There root aphids, they are different than regular aphids in that they dont harm the foliage of a plant, at least directly, they suck on the roots which in long term causes wilting and probably numerous things. There a pain in the ass to get rid of too, probably the hardest pest, because there in the soil, and all soil treaments have to be given a soil drench usually more than a couple of times, which starts to lead to more problems. Ive tried lots of different treatments but it only slows them down. Ive heard Bayer tree and shrub (Imidacloprid) which is systemic and last from 6 weeks to 12 months depending on the type and strength used, is the best thing to kill them. It is absorbed by the roots and plant, bugs try feeding and get poisoned and die, but you could be smoking chemicals if it hasnt worn off by harvest. So used in veg before flowering might be safe. Im going to give it a shot and see what happens. Has anybody used Bayer for this?
 
jordisgarden

jordisgarden

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could those just be the beneficial microbes that live in the soil or are you noticing the plant becoming stressed?
 
tfishing

tfishing

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jordisgarden said:
could those just be the beneficial microbes that live in the soil or are you noticing the plant becoming stressed?
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I have something extremely similar, maybe the same. Are there any beneficial microbes that live in the soil that you can visibly see moving(quickly)?
 
hippiepudz024

hippiepudz024

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wow, i have been having major bug problems with my garden also, two weeks into flowering my leaves began to brown up and die, i checked for bugs and i had cabbage root maggots, so i gave the drench application of azamax and killed the little fuckers, now i have these bugs that you talk about just marching around the top of my grow bags and in and out of the soil,by the way im now in week seven of flower, so this is happening 5 weeks after i drench fed, so i think my azamax just wore off on the plants, and im going to have to feed some more here soon, like prob tomorrow, so ill will message you guys and tell you if it kills them, im 99 percent sure that it will though , and also i can give azamax this late into BUDDING because azamax is 100 OMRI certified organic, and is okay to give up to day of harvest, while the product is still super potent, i love the azamax
 
hippiepudz024

hippiepudz024

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jordisgarden said:
could those just be the beneficial microbes that live in the soil or are you noticing the plant becoming stressed?
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im pretty sure that beneficial microbes are the size of bacteria maybe a little bigger, basically 100% invisible to the human eye, (without a strong microscope of course though)
 
Tidalwavedave

Tidalwavedave

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Does it have 2 tube looking structures at its adbomen, if so its a aphid. Have you looked into Thrips, they have a similar look when very young. Some spider mites when young have 3 pair of legs and grow more after a few molts, but it looks like that bug has a pair of antennae so that could be out. The best way to figure the pest is to check on it regularly and see the difference in structure over a couple of days. Here is a link for some description on some bugs at the bottom of the page. Hope this helps.


http://insects.tamu.edu/fieldguide/orders.htm
 
VidiotRayM

VidiotRayM

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Wow, can't say I've ever seen them. I did look at fungus gnats, which look really similar except your's have no wings and I would think that they'd have them as soon as they emerged from larval stage. One of the sites recommended catching some on a sticky trap and taking them to a pest control outfit to see if they could ID them for you........Or maybe a local ag school.....

They don't look like the mites or aphids that I saw which generally live on the plants anyway.....but there was mention of a tiny white soil lice that is common and helpful in compost piles........I didn't find a pic, sorry.....I'm guessing any garden bug spray will fix 'em unlike spider mites, which can't seem to be killed by anything allowed in the US....... Hopefully it's just a pest and not a problem.

Best of luck guys.
 
bicycle racer

bicycle racer

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they are root aphids they will kill your plants if not taken care of multiple soil drenches will be required nothing else will work they are hard to eradicate. i use a pyrethrum/canola oil drench it has to be done at least 3 times to interrupt there life cycle. they are worse than any other pest i have dealt with good luck.
 
bicycle racer

bicycle racer

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if they crawl about on soil pots etc.. are dark in color pear shaped and have 2 antenae coming out the rear of the bug there absolutely root aphids and will really screw up your plants.
 
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Jeebojenkins

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Id guess root aphids, if you do some research on them you will see that this little asshole comes with and without wings just like normal aphids. I have just become infested by these bastards, but I luckily have noticed them quickly (at least I think I have) and have already started an Azamax treatment. As of now I plan on using the treatments with EVERY watering, and once the plants go into flowering I will most likely buy some beneficial nematodes which really mess these things up. Im hoping that by the time I use my nematodes they will simply be a preventative measure at that point. With fingers crossed and some 100% organic treatments lined up Im praying I will be able to prevent my plants from being effected in a major way.

ALSO: if anyone has these things google ED Rosenthal and root aphids, he has experience in killing these things (obviously) but he essentially reccomends 3 different things, 2 of which are pyrethrean and Nematodes, and I forget what the third is. BTW incase your wondering Azamax is pyrethrean. Good luck and contiune to respect cannabis.
 
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