Blue Cheese, PPP, Thai SS...Jerry's Second Grow
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SL2
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Thanks tom
I will def pick up some cal-mag. I saw some plantation blackstrap molasses unsulfured in the grocery store. I was wondering if this was what people use?
What are yours and Jerry’s thoughts on temp and humidity? I have read different opinions on riu. Mine is getting low in my grow cabinet with the winter / heat running in the house between 30 and 40% in the cabinet.
Sorry Jerry not trying to jack your thread…
I will def pick up some cal-mag. I saw some plantation blackstrap molasses unsulfured in the grocery store. I was wondering if this was what people use?
What are yours and Jerry’s thoughts on temp and humidity? I have read different opinions on riu. Mine is getting low in my grow cabinet with the winter / heat running in the house between 30 and 40% in the cabinet.
Sorry Jerry not trying to jack your thread…
Jerry Garcia
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SL2...Low humidity = good humidity, except for cloning. While cloning you want the highest possible humidity. For flowering you want the lowest possible humidity. For veg I don't think it really matters.
It's been a while since my last update...and it's gonna be at least another 9 hours before I can take new pics. Sorry I'm terrible
Anyway, I made some pretty wicked ice water hash the other day from the trimmings I've accumulated over the last couple harvests. There was about 1.5oz of trim that I used and ended up with 3.6 grams from the first run and 1.0 from the second...so 4.6 grams total.
I went to my local university art store and purchased 1/2 yard of silk screen of unknown lines per inch or microns. I froze the trimmings for 24 hours, then put them in a mixing bowl type thing and covered with ice. I added a little water and mixed with a wooden spoon until I didn't feel like mixing anymore...probably about a half hour. Then I poured the mixture through a pretty fine tea strainer (purchased from grocery store...there were 2 different models and the one I chose had a MUCH finer mesh than the other one) and into a mixing bowl. Then I poured that mix through the silk screen and into a 13x9 glass baking pan. I let the trichomes settle on the bottom for about 24 hours and gently sucked off the water above that beautiful white layer. When it got too close to not suck out trichs, I put it in the oven on 170 and baked off the remaining water. Finally I used a blow drier to completely dry the stuff before scraping off the pan. I let it sit out for a couple days before rolling it into a nice little ball. I did a second run with the plant material and got a nice little extra ball of hash that is a little more coarse than the first run, probably because it has more contaminants. It looks just as black as the first one though. Here's how they look now...I've smoked a good bit of the first batch already, and it bubbles up real nice!
Well, I lied...I can't upload any pics at the moment. I'll get them up later, hopefully with some new pics of the ladies...
It's been a while since my last update...and it's gonna be at least another 9 hours before I can take new pics. Sorry I'm terrible
Anyway, I made some pretty wicked ice water hash the other day from the trimmings I've accumulated over the last couple harvests. There was about 1.5oz of trim that I used and ended up with 3.6 grams from the first run and 1.0 from the second...so 4.6 grams total.
I went to my local university art store and purchased 1/2 yard of silk screen of unknown lines per inch or microns. I froze the trimmings for 24 hours, then put them in a mixing bowl type thing and covered with ice. I added a little water and mixed with a wooden spoon until I didn't feel like mixing anymore...probably about a half hour. Then I poured the mixture through a pretty fine tea strainer (purchased from grocery store...there were 2 different models and the one I chose had a MUCH finer mesh than the other one) and into a mixing bowl. Then I poured that mix through the silk screen and into a 13x9 glass baking pan. I let the trichomes settle on the bottom for about 24 hours and gently sucked off the water above that beautiful white layer. When it got too close to not suck out trichs, I put it in the oven on 170 and baked off the remaining water. Finally I used a blow drier to completely dry the stuff before scraping off the pan. I let it sit out for a couple days before rolling it into a nice little ball. I did a second run with the plant material and got a nice little extra ball of hash that is a little more coarse than the first run, probably because it has more contaminants. It looks just as black as the first one though. Here's how they look now...I've smoked a good bit of the first batch already, and it bubbles up real nice!
Well, I lied...I can't upload any pics at the moment. I'll get them up later, hopefully with some new pics of the ladies...
Jerry Garcia
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Well, the Bengals D hasn't given up a 100 yard rusher in 8 games, so I don't think AP will buck that trend.
I am a little concerned about old man Favre slinging the ball around on us...but only a little. I think Mike Zimmer (defensive coordinator) will dial up some effective blitz packages to keep him off balance and hopefully we can get a few sacks.
Jared Allen is a freaking monster though...and he's bat-shit crazy...
Should be a fun game either way! I say Bengals win 24-13 and our defense comes up big...
Jerry Garcia
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So I finally got some good pics today. I have no idea how long the plants have been flowering...maybe a month now for the Blue Cheeses and PPP...
Let's go through the pics...
Here's the two balls of hash from the other day. The one on the right was the first run through, the left was the second using the same skuff.
Here's a blue cheese. Doing the same leaf necrosis thing it did last time...and they're all doing it. I've been hitting with cal-mag along with my BMO and fox farm grow big...I just think I waited too long to start the cal-mag and it led to some problems. They're all growing fine though and getting good and stinky. I love the Blue Cheese smell and taste!
Here's a blue cheese that I left in the small container. It started with the leaf thing earlier than the ones in the large white pots.
Here's a blue cheese A. I propped her up with a skewer so she doesn't lean so damn much. These buds just get too heavy for the branches every time. Not the worst problem to have.
Another shot.
Here's another blue cheese in a big pot. I think this is an A, but honestly I don't know. Same deal as the other 3...fan leaves spotting up and dying but the buds are doing just fine.
Now my pride and joy...PPP...gonna be some wicked colas right there! She's stopped growing up and is really starting to fill out. I love this freaking plant.
Close up of the PPP. Really nice trichome development up in here...
The trichs are even covering the fan leaves! The leaves are starting to turn a nice purple color too...I didn't get a good shot of that though. By next update I imagine this plant will look a lot more beautiful...
Next, the long-legged LSD. What else can I really say?
The buds are doing well and smell really sour...they're just aren't very many of them. I'm sure that has to do with how tall she got...but I had no idea it would stretch that much! I'm sure I'll improve the yield with the 2 clones I've got going.
Last is the Chiesel. She's a pretty low yielder as well. I burnt her top pretty good by letting it grow into the glass of my reflector while the fan was off...BAD MOVE. It burnt her top as well as the Blue Widow, which I didn't get a pic of. Both had to be cut off and it severely messed up their growth. It's ok though, I've got rooted clones of everyone ready to veg.
I'll try to get pics of the clones in a minute. That's it for now...
Let's go through the pics...
Here's the two balls of hash from the other day. The one on the right was the first run through, the left was the second using the same skuff.
Here's a blue cheese. Doing the same leaf necrosis thing it did last time...and they're all doing it. I've been hitting with cal-mag along with my BMO and fox farm grow big...I just think I waited too long to start the cal-mag and it led to some problems. They're all growing fine though and getting good and stinky. I love the Blue Cheese smell and taste!
Here's a blue cheese that I left in the small container. It started with the leaf thing earlier than the ones in the large white pots.
Here's a blue cheese A. I propped her up with a skewer so she doesn't lean so damn much. These buds just get too heavy for the branches every time. Not the worst problem to have.
Another shot.
Here's another blue cheese in a big pot. I think this is an A, but honestly I don't know. Same deal as the other 3...fan leaves spotting up and dying but the buds are doing just fine.
Now my pride and joy...PPP...gonna be some wicked colas right there! She's stopped growing up and is really starting to fill out. I love this freaking plant.
Close up of the PPP. Really nice trichome development up in here...
The trichs are even covering the fan leaves! The leaves are starting to turn a nice purple color too...I didn't get a good shot of that though. By next update I imagine this plant will look a lot more beautiful...
Next, the long-legged LSD. What else can I really say?
The buds are doing well and smell really sour...they're just aren't very many of them. I'm sure that has to do with how tall she got...but I had no idea it would stretch that much! I'm sure I'll improve the yield with the 2 clones I've got going.
Last is the Chiesel. She's a pretty low yielder as well. I burnt her top pretty good by letting it grow into the glass of my reflector while the fan was off...BAD MOVE. It burnt her top as well as the Blue Widow, which I didn't get a pic of. Both had to be cut off and it severely messed up their growth. It's ok though, I've got rooted clones of everyone ready to veg.
I'll try to get pics of the clones in a minute. That's it for now...
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theloadeddragon
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Nice update.... Very interesting LSD you have...... Thanks for the pics...... Looks Very nice (esp. that PPP) 
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PPP stealing the show as always....I so nearly grew that my first time round instead of Snow White. It was between PPP, SW and Ice. I went for SnowWhite. LOL
I tell ya man....Nirvana impress me....I hear/read a lot of negative shit about them, but I have never seen a bad grow from their stuff. And my snow whites were just lovely.
Maybe I need to revist Nirvana,,,get some PPP and Ice this time round.
Others are doing well too, except for the burn, but that's just cosmetic man. The bud is in tact! hehehe
Good stuff mate!
I tell ya man....Nirvana impress me....I hear/read a lot of negative shit about them, but I have never seen a bad grow from their stuff. And my snow whites were just lovely.
Maybe I need to revist Nirvana,,,get some PPP and Ice this time round.
Others are doing well too, except for the burn, but that's just cosmetic man. The bud is in tact! hehehe
Good stuff mate!
arcticvapors
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Nice job...they are all looking real good. Two of my attempts with Greenhouse Seeds UK Cheese strains had the same leaf necrosis. The first most likely due to too strong a mix of nutes, the second I used no nutes (only whats in the Fox Farm soil) and it did the same thing. That was a couple of weeks ago and she's been fine since, I trimmed of the dead leaves. I wonder if it's the strain? Peace 
warisnottheanswer
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just got back from a trip and u got the buds frosty again lol! good job my dude!
Jerry Garcia
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Thanks for the comments all...I've been away for a few days so I've not had the opportunity to check on the ladies. I'll get some pics up tonight when I get my first good look at them...
arcticvapors...I'm pretty sure the problem has more to do with me dialing in the appropriate nutrient balance than it being a characteristic of the strain. I think in my case the blue cheese may be under-fertilized, given the health of the PPP and the LSD. But maybe the BC is overly sensitive? I tend to think it's under-fertilized because they were all transplanted into the FFOF soil and not given any nutes for a couple weeks...in hindsight I should have at least been giving them dilute amounts instead of waiting for the deficiency to pop up. If you go back and check out the pics of the BC's during their first week in the large white pots the leaves all look healthy and strong.
In the end I don't know. I'm still learning (by the seat of my pants) so I take it all with a grain of salt.
On a side note, my trainwreck and 5 DNA skunk cross freebies arrived while I was away! Now I have an even larger embarrassment of strains than I did before! I've already got a ton of clones that are about to move to the veg chamber (they've been vegging under 24/0 light in the clone chamber for a while now) but once that happens I'm going to start some Jack the Ripper, Trainwreck, and another OG Kush because the last one was clearly messed up.
And so it continues...pics later...
arcticvapors...I'm pretty sure the problem has more to do with me dialing in the appropriate nutrient balance than it being a characteristic of the strain. I think in my case the blue cheese may be under-fertilized, given the health of the PPP and the LSD. But maybe the BC is overly sensitive? I tend to think it's under-fertilized because they were all transplanted into the FFOF soil and not given any nutes for a couple weeks...in hindsight I should have at least been giving them dilute amounts instead of waiting for the deficiency to pop up. If you go back and check out the pics of the BC's during their first week in the large white pots the leaves all look healthy and strong.
In the end I don't know. I'm still learning (by the seat of my pants) so I take it all with a grain of salt.
On a side note, my trainwreck and 5 DNA skunk cross freebies arrived while I was away! Now I have an even larger embarrassment of strains than I did before! I've already got a ton of clones that are about to move to the veg chamber (they've been vegging under 24/0 light in the clone chamber for a while now) but once that happens I'm going to start some Jack the Ripper, Trainwreck, and another OG Kush because the last one was clearly messed up.
And so it continues...pics later...
Jerry Garcia
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It was nice to see the plants yesterday. Not too much has changed...except the buds have gotten a bit bigger. The leaf thing keeps happening to the blue cheese. The LSD is still tall and unruly. PPP is still awesome.
We'll start with a group shot. LSD on the left, 2 Blue Cheese in the middle and PPP on the right.
LSD. Buds are starting to thicken up and frost up pretty nicely. I've got 2 clones of this girl and they stretch just as much as mom. Gonna have to flower them young I suppose.
Another view of the tops.
Starting to get their first orange hairs.
One of the Blue Cheese. I trimmed the dying leaves a bit.
Another BC. Buds look nice, leaves not so much.
PPP. Still being beautiful. Turning some nice purply colors as it gets rather cool during the evening. Hopefully it isn't too cool.
You can see some of the colors happening in this shot.
Frosty little nugs along a cola.
This is a not-so-hot Chiesel. What buds are present look ok, except the top that grew into the glass of my reflector and got burnt to all hell. The clone I have going of it looks much better than this, and should be a nice yielder, compared to this piece anyway.
Nice little Chiesel nugs
Here's an untopped blue cheese clone that I left in a small pot. It could have benefited from being in a larger container I think, but I already have 3 others so I'm not too worried.
Some frosty little blue cheese buds. Probably getting close to the chopping block. I haven't kept track at all this grow, so I'm going solely by the trichomes.
Here's the Blue Widow. Same thing happened here as with the Chiesel. What buds are there look good, but there just isn't very much there. The clone looks fine and should turn out way better than this.
One final in-situ group shot. Lots of colas projecting from the jungle!
I just transplanted 5 of the clones into black pots...1 PPP, 1 BW, 1 Chiesel, and 2 LSD. Probably going to wait a week or so before I start the Trainwreck or Jack the Ripper.
We'll start with a group shot. LSD on the left, 2 Blue Cheese in the middle and PPP on the right.
LSD. Buds are starting to thicken up and frost up pretty nicely. I've got 2 clones of this girl and they stretch just as much as mom. Gonna have to flower them young I suppose.
Another view of the tops.
Starting to get their first orange hairs.
One of the Blue Cheese. I trimmed the dying leaves a bit.
Another BC. Buds look nice, leaves not so much.
PPP. Still being beautiful. Turning some nice purply colors as it gets rather cool during the evening. Hopefully it isn't too cool.
You can see some of the colors happening in this shot.
Frosty little nugs along a cola.
This is a not-so-hot Chiesel. What buds are present look ok, except the top that grew into the glass of my reflector and got burnt to all hell. The clone I have going of it looks much better than this, and should be a nice yielder, compared to this piece anyway.
Nice little Chiesel nugs
Here's an untopped blue cheese clone that I left in a small pot. It could have benefited from being in a larger container I think, but I already have 3 others so I'm not too worried.
Some frosty little blue cheese buds. Probably getting close to the chopping block. I haven't kept track at all this grow, so I'm going solely by the trichomes.
Here's the Blue Widow. Same thing happened here as with the Chiesel. What buds are there look good, but there just isn't very much there. The clone looks fine and should turn out way better than this.
One final in-situ group shot. Lots of colas projecting from the jungle!
I just transplanted 5 of the clones into black pots...1 PPP, 1 BW, 1 Chiesel, and 2 LSD. Probably going to wait a week or so before I start the Trainwreck or Jack the Ripper.
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theloadeddragon
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Very nice update my friend.... thank you, 
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I'd have to say the blue cheese is my favorite. The PPP is wonderful and I love it too. The Thai is a good skunky smoke but the high is a little too light for me...maybe because its predominantly sativa. I don't know. The trainwreck I got off my friend a few weeks ago was my favorite. Do I know if it was really trainwreck...no...but I'm gonna grow some anyway.
Jerry Garcia
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I would like to take a moment and mourn the loss of Bengals wide receiver Chris Henry, who died early this morning. He was a misunderstood person who went through some rough times but had turned his life around for the better. Our thoughts and prayers go out to his family.