A month of flowering very little bud

[FeaR]

U need to just clone ur plants and put them back into veg and try again.. u shouldnt go 12/12 from seed. EVER. You didnt give them time to develope...

 

[seasmoke]

I'm trying to add more lights I scraped up a little more dough but I can't find the 300 watt cfl at walmart should I go to lowes?

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You need 6500k for vegging, 2700k for flowering.

Yea going straight to 12/12 from seed is not a good idea. The plants need time to establish roots, going straight to 12/12 makes a plant want to make buds and not roots. The above poster is right, either take some clonesor revegg that one) and put them under no less than 18 hrs light for three weeks. By then they will be ready for bud....the more time you give them the bigger they get. I vegg clones for two months before I bud them...check my album, they get 24-32 inches tall and they are bushy.

 

[DubsFan]

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You need 6500k for vegging, 2700k for flowering.

Yea going straight to 12/12 from seed is not a good idea. The plants need time to establish roots, going straight to 12/12 makes a plant want to make buds and not roots. The above poster is right, either take some clonesor revegg that one) and put them under no less than 18 hrs light for three weeks. By then they will be ready for bud....the more time you give them the bigger they get. I vegg clones for two months before I bud them...check my album, they get 24-32 inches tall and they are bushy.

revegging after any lengthy flower cycle is a bit of a process. It can be done and many have done it but its not worth the time. The clones could root quickly but you might have a bunch of single bladed or three bladed fan leaves.

The leaves aren't such a big deal but I've had plants completely shed all the fans that are singles and three bladed once it really turns back to veg and forms fives, sevens, nines, elevens and so on.

I lost 60% of my fans once from this process. Now you have a plant working on growin fans when it should be working on buds.

Uninterupted life cycles is the best way to grow. I'm not saying to throw them in the trash...I'm just saying you have some work and definately more time ahead of you before you have good nugs.

 

[Bpayne]

Update, so the plants have waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay more hairs, and have grown extra branch extentions, that are covered in clumps of hairs at the tops of each one, are these going to be the colas? I haven't been able to upgrade the lights, I've flushed with water once but haven't fed them nutes again because I dont' want to burn them. some of the leaves are still brown and crumbles, and stuff, but now they all have flowering tops full of hairs, that flowering top that was brown and then dull gray grew back over with green and is full of hairs, one of them has the white hairs but they are turning dark red what does that mean? I know they can't be finished becausse it's hairs but I don't see anything that looks like smokeable bud in the hairs. there are only one or two sites that have these tiny pointy things under the pistils, that look like really little buds covered in trichomes, but those are coming out of the stalk not the branches, but now every branch has a top of white hairs, will bud come out under these hairs? should I give them a Little bit of plant food, or completely stop with it, how abouit the miracle grow I had, I remember when I used it only one time, early on when I they were all dying, and they all perked up from it, seems like the miracle grow worked better for them than the jack classic which is suppose to be for bud, and I though miracle grow was horrible for bud? I wonder if I'm actually underwatering, because I only water my plants about once a week. and am not sure how much water I am suppose to be putting in there anyway between six plants, I usually use 2-3 normal drinking cups full of clean store bought drinking water, not sure of the ph of anything, the temp fluctuates a lot in there too, light 70 when we run the heat, but we sleep with ac on so it dips to aboui 63 at night. they are in the bathroom in our master bedroom and my girl is starting to get sneezy and allergy like from them so she wants them out of here. they stink up the whole bedroom so I run the bathroome exhaust fan 24/7 and keep a cinimon broom next to the bathroom too. we live in a duplex (side by side) some neighbors just moved into the empty side in our duplex it is parallell, like my kitchen then the wall and thier kitchen so our bathrooms are on opposite ends of the building, but will running the exhaust fan push the smell of the weed to where they can smell it? like I said its a duplex two apartments in one building but parallell, so everything is the opposite of the other apartment. back doors and front doors are side by side, but bathrooms on opposite sides, any more tips, can't get more light but the things are covered in hairs, I just hope that the buds come in underneath them. if I give it enough time it can't do anything but keep growing though right?

 

[DubsFan]

Update, so the plants have waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay more hairs, and have grown extra branch extentions, that are covered in clumps of hairs at the tops of each one, are these going to be the colas? I haven't been able to upgrade the lights, I've flushed with water once but haven't fed them nutes again because I dont' want to burn them. some of the leaves are still brown and crumbles, and stuff, but now they all have flowering tops full of hairs, that flowering top that was brown and then dull gray grew back over with green and is full of hairs, one of them has the white hairs but they are turning dark red what does that mean? I know they can't be finished becausse it's hairs but I don't see anything that looks like smokeable bud in the hairs. there are only one or two sites that have these tiny pointy things under the pistils, that look like really little buds covered in trichomes, but those are coming out of the stalk not the branches, but now every branch has a top of white hairs, will bud come out under these hairs? should I give them a Little bit of plant food, or completely stop with it, how abouit the miracle grow I had, I remember when I used it only one time, early on when I they were all dying, and they all perked up from it, seems like the miracle grow worked better for them than the jack classic which is suppose to be for bud, and I though miracle grow was horrible for bud? I wonder if I'm actually underwatering, because I only water my plants about once a week. and am not sure how much water I am suppose to be putting in there anyway between six plants, I usually use 2-3 normal drinking cups full of clean store bought drinking water, not sure of the ph of anything, the temp fluctuates a lot in there too, light 70 when we run the heat, but we sleep with ac on so it dips to aboui 63 at night. they are in the bathroom in our master bedroom and my girl is starting to get sneezy and allergy like from them so she wants them out of here. they stink up the whole bedroom so I run the bathroome exhaust fan 24/7 and keep a cinimon broom next to the bathroom too. we live in a duplex (side by side) some neighbors just moved into the empty side in our duplex it is parallell, like my kitchen then the wall and thier kitchen so our bathrooms are on opposite ends of the building, but will running the exhaust fan push the smell of the weed to where they can smell it? like I said its a duplex two apartments in one building but parallell, so everything is the opposite of the other apartment. back doors and front doors are side by side, but bathrooms on opposite sides, any more tips, can't get more light but the things are covered in hairs, I just hope that the buds come in underneath them. if I give it enough time it can't do anything but keep growing though right?

Keep growing dude! If she's forming nugs you are doing it right. In soil grows Ph doesn't matter unless you have some crazy tap water. Use your tap water and start adding some flower nutes. Your plant sounds big enough to handle 50% nute strength. Do that for a week or so then bump it up to 75% then 100% the following week.

FYI, I have some really healthy White Widows that just don't like my nute mix at 100%. So if they tell you they like 75% that is where you want to stay.

 

[RanTyr]

u shouldnt go 12/12 from seed. EVER. You didnt give them time to develope...

Stupid. Of course they have time to develop. Plants cannot flower prematurely. It's impossible. Physically impossible.

In soil grows Ph doesn't matter unless you have some crazy tap water.

More stupid. Of course PH matters. Ever hear of nutrient absorption rates? They vary depending on the PH.

 

[Bpayne]

thank you everybody for answering, This is my first grow, but Ryan you don't have to be snotty and call peoples advice "stupid", I just want some bud, my tops are full of hairs but I don't see any nugs under there are they hiding in the hairs?

 

[DubsFan]

Stupid. Of course they have time to develop. Plants cannot flower prematurely. It's impossible. Physically impossible.



More stupid. Of course PH matters. Ever hear of nutrient absorption rates? They vary depending on the PH.

Not stupid...nobody is Ph'ing 1000gal for their half acre outdoor grows in California. Nobody. They all use the tap. Some of the best soil grows in the world are in Ca. Indoors and out. Nobody is Ph'ing that water. 7.0...7.7, no problem.

 

[Bpayne]

um how about answering the question and stop arguing amongst yourselves, maaad hairs on the flowering tops, is there suppose to be bud underneath cuz I"m not seeing any, and how come on one of my plants the white hairs are turning red but theres still barely any bud and no colas?

 

[triniman]

I would tie the plants down in to a scrog setup and leave only the main colas and trim away all the small tops or branchs leaving the biggest nicest buds

 

[seasmoke]

um how about answering the question and stop arguing amongst yourselves, maaad hairs on the flowering tops, is there suppose to be bud underneath cuz I"m not seeing any, and how come on one of my plants the white hairs are turning red but theres still barely any bud and no colas?

Relax. What you are seeing is the beginning stage of bud production. They will fill out into colas.

 

[Newb1985]

first of all I can't start over this is my only chance to grow, one of those pics you can see the buds that are growing like I said they are the pointy things, and what you are calling "light hoods" are ballasts I need them on the light to hold it up it has the clip that allows me to place my lights in position without those "hoods' I wouldn't be able to use the lights in the first place and the whole thing cost me about 50 bucks for the lights and ballasts( what your saying are light hoods) that hold them in place, I need to know what to do about the leaf browning should I flush them with water and stop feeding those nutes, switch nutes, or should I just give it more time and hope more bud grows in, I'm not going to be able to add more light that is the max I can fit and afford.

My god BPayne you sound like hard work, just take peoples advice instead of spurting rubbish out, get better lights or you will only have a couple of doobs to smoke, barely worth the effort. GET A CHEAP 150W HPS THEN YOU WILL SEE THE RESULTS, maybe too far into it but once you buy the lights at least you have got them for later uses. Peace.

 

[Newb1985]

why is it so immature, they've been growing for almost 2 months shouldn't it have matured some by now? they are pretty big I don't have much space left in my grow area for them

Dude get another day job ffs, THE PLANT HASN'T MATURED, you say you didn't veg so how the hell do you think they would mature under 12/12 for 2 months ? Unless it is an autoflowering strain you have fkked it. I strongly suggest that you research and read more next time.

 

[Newb1985]

revegging after any lengthy flower cycle is a bit of a process. It can be done and many have done it but its not worth the time. The clones could root quickly but you might have a bunch of single bladed or three bladed fan leaves.

The leaves aren't such a big deal but i've had plants completely shed all the fans that are singles and three bladed once it really turns back to veg and forms fives, sevens, nines, elevens and so on.

I lost 60% of my fans once from this process. Now you have a plant working on growin fans when it should be working on buds.

Uninterupted life cycles is the best way to grow. I'm not saying to throw them in the trash...i'm just saying you have some work and definately more time ahead of you before you have good nugs.

good info mate !

 

[PJ Diaz]

My god BPayne you sound like hard work, just take peoples advice instead of spurting rubbish out, get better lights or you will only have a couple of doobs to smoke, barely worth the effort. GET A CHEAP 150W HPS THEN YOU WILL SEE THE RESULTS, maybe too far into it but once you buy the lights at least you have got them for later uses. Peace.

Dig up old threads much?

 

[840/2]

Dig up old threads much?

Fo' serious.......I was like dag, this is from December 2009!