My Current set up: journal?

[skunkushybrid]

You would have to judge the product for your self. Stop by any time you are in the neighborhood. I will be in Florida the first week of January, and then Jamaca for a day or so before flying back so skip that time frame. LOL VV

Unfortunately, I live in england, uk, and have a very young family... I'd love to stop by, maybe one day.

 

[GoodFriend]

You would have to judge the product for your self. Stop by any time you are in the neighborhood. I will be in Florida the first week of January, and then Jamaca for a day or so before flying back so skip that time frame. LOL VV

jamaca!

only for a day?!?

 

[VictorVIcious]

These are picture of a widow clone. The leaves first showed some deformity around three weeks. Not all of the leaves, just a few. Soo.. I trimmed them off, things started looking better. Then worse. And worse. Even though the rest of them look ok. Hmmm... ??VV Turn the page.

 

[VictorVIcious]

Soo.. this is what it looked like yesterday just before I cut it down. I thought I might get an answer by looking at the roots. I don't see a problem there. That is little rockwwol cubes being held together by the roots. ANy ideas??? VV

 

[VictorVIcious]

jamaca!

only for a day?!?

Here's how it lays out. For a few years we have taken a kinda 'family vacation. Differnt family members join us, last year we went to the Bahamas. My wife signed up for a College class in Florida that starts the Thursday after our vacation ends. When she started to check motel rates and rental cars, it was cheaper for her to go on a three day cruise and take me along. Its a tough decision. A cruise to Jamaca with my wife or fly home alone, I'll be in Jamaca for a day or so. VV

 

[skunkushybrid]

Could be a few things VV. Either Genetics... PH fluctuation... Over Watering... or potassium deficiency...

Although i doubt it's the last one.

 

[skunkushybrid]

Do you have mottled leaves on that plant VV? Looks like insect damage. I'm seeing a lot of that just lately, i have them too.

This isn't the reason for the hooked leaves, by the way.

 

[GoodFriend]

Here's how it lays out. For a few years we have taken a kinda 'family vacation. Differnt family members join us, last year we went to the Bahamas. My wife signed up for a College class in Florida that starts the Thursday after our vacation ends. When she started to check motel rates and rental cars, it was cheaper for her to go on a three day cruise and take me along. Its a tough decision. A cruise to Jamaca with my wife or fly home alone, I'll be in Jamaca for a day or so. VV

completely understandable

enjoy you're vaca friend!

i'm going to florida for the first week of DEC for a holiday with my fiance... we miss eachother by a month

haha...
take care friend

good growing

 

[VictorVIcious]

Could be a few things VV. Either Genetics... PH fluctuation... Over Watering... or potassium deficiency...

Although i doubt it's the last one.

All of these widows are decendats from the original 2 plants I had started as seed last July or August. They all get feed at the same time using the same nutes. It could be overwatering, usually don't have strong healthy roots and overwatering rockwool it hard to do. Any way I still need to pare down 15 or so clones so its gone now. VV

 

[skunkushybrid]

You know VV, it could still be genetics. With a mother plant constantly being cut, this can lead to stress, and her producing freakish branches. Cut these branches, and they grow freaky leaves. I've seen it on my own crops after successive cloning. Which is why i only keep mom plants for around 10 weeks, but even then it can still happen.

Which seedbank is the widow from?

 

[VictorVIcious]

Do you have mottled leaves on that plant VV?

That is the way I would describe them yes.

Looks like insect damage. I'm seeing a lot of that just lately, i have them too.

That is what I thought at first. I took that plant off the table and looked at it many times. When I trimmed the leaves off I would look at them with my 30x Magnifying glass. Culdn't find any thing and it isn't affecting the other 40 or so plants in that area or the fourty in flowering.

This isn't the reason for the hooked leaves, by the way.

I agree. I am stumped. VV

 

[VictorVIcious]

You know VV, it could still be genetics. With a mother plant constantly being cut, this can lead to stress, and her producing freakish branches. Cut these branches, and they grow freaky leaves. I've seen it on my own crops after successive cloning. Which is why i only keep mom plants for around 10 weeks, but even then it can still happen.

I would agree although we have had folks say you can keep mothers for long periods of time. The difference here is this group of plants was the first group I was going to keep as mothers. None of my plants has ever contributed more than two sets of clones. One just as I put them in flowering and again two weeks later.

Which seedbank is the widow from?

i used t have the name in bookmarks. Its whatever one has the girl with the leaves over her tits, don't know the name. VV

 

[VictorVIcious]

Ok so here is the deal. These three plants are all in the same batch. 3 different profiles. The first one I call the Spread Offense. It does have a main cola, the side branches never gotup to meet it, they are kinda spreading.
The second one doesn't seem to have a main cola its a doughnut offense, a big hole in the center. The third is the profile I am looking for with this strain. Tight, together. This is what the first two I grew looked like. Only they were much taller. I didn't have the early rh and temp problems as bad then.
The next picture is one that has been in flowring not quite 5 weeks, and that same plant next to one of the ones that have been in flowering for 8 weeks. Notice the younger plant is taller. Health of both plants is decent. Turn the page. VV

 

[VictorVIcious]

Here is a shot from the top, Spread, Doughnut and what I want. Look at the stems. Stunted early growth they have never overcome. This accounts for the low production, not quite an oz per plant. The stems of the next batch look better and the plant height seems to reflect this. Now If the harvest from those matches the height I will be one happy camper. I included a cola close up just because... I love you man. VV

 

[BSIv2.0]

Nice looking plants there, VV.

 

[VictorVIcious]

Which ones?? They little short loaded with bud ones, or the ones that have 8 weeks to go? If the fill out to match their height it would be awsome. And the little ones are a 1/2 way decent example of a closet sog grow. Between 18" and 25", 8" pot height, this happens to be flood and drian, t-5 8tube, almost 1oz per plant.
The next ones or closer to thirty inches. Seems to me the best of the widow I ever had as far as the main cola, was around 36" at harvest. With the t-5's, allowing for res height etc. you could duplicate this in a closet 6' high easily.

 

[VictorVIcious]

Quick Review. I have a table of clones, 21 of them I was planning on moving into flowering last week. After deciding to put less plants on each flowering table, these will have to be held back which is fine with my set up. I can let them reach their maximum height of 42" no problem. Some of these were cloned on 9/22, some on10/12. I introduced the t-5 light over them on 10/29. I don't want them to just sit there and overgrow themselves. I want to try and train them a little. They are probale going to be here for three more weeks before flowering. Sooo..... I am going to turn them from this......to this.. Turn the page. VV

 

[VictorVIcious]

These are WW with a dob 9/22 and then 10/12. And a shot of the tops. The crystal and the ice clones... Turn the page. V

 

[LoudBlunts]

victor i need to talk to you about something.....you gon be on a for min?


im bout to send you a pm

 

[VictorVIcious]

You can see they have nice veggetative growth. What I want is for the light to reach the budsites. So I clip the shit out of them. I got the information that I use as a basis for the trimfrom a post MOgie had made, I printed it out and refer to it. "Show me how to do early vegetative pruning and fim" in FAQ.
Here's how it goes. This is a front and top shot, before and after. I did leave a few lower branches I might not have, in case I decide to clone them before flowering. From the top you can see all the bud sites that were hidden. The vegetative growth will return. We'll check on them again in about a week. VV