hardroc
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same here, I'm in a closet and man it's hard enough to keep the temps down with a 400
4 plants flowering over 100 colas!!!
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snutter
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Actually, I don't have any 1000W lights....Not sure where you got that...
I have 4 plants in the flower room, and each one of them has a 400W HPS light on them. 4 plants, 4 lights, all 400W HPS.
I veg under two 400W metal halide's. I actually believe that my success is because I take care to make sure I give my plants what they need and nothing more. I don't get crazy with extra nutes, or oddball ideas like adding molasses and things like that that I've read about people doing...
I use the Lucas Formula. I use a little bit of super thrive, and some Epsom salt during flowering. I make sure that my pH levels stay constant at 5.3 to 5.6 never above or below. Keeping your pH levels correct is so very important. I can't stress that to hydro growers enough...
And just plain old attention to details like keeping them pruned, making sure that my temps are perfect (day and night cycles), that I'm getting good fresh air intake, and humidity level never out of control, etc. etc... This sort of care will always help with a succesful grow...
snutter
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So now that you know that like you, I am using 400W HPS lights, what do you think??
Pretty cool, huh?What type of system do you run, someguy? bubbleponics, aeroponics, DWC, or something else? I assume you are a hydro grower since you're visiting the hydro threads. I'd really like to hear what you have going on. In fact, I'll check out your profile after I submit this reply. I hope that you have pics of your girls. I'm sure they are beautiful! I'll go check now.
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I also believe that some of my success lies in the fact that I grow DWC hydro. I believe this to be a very kick ass way to grow!
I've seen the benefits of it personally now, and I just can't argue with the results. Done correctly, it's amazing!!!
Someguy15
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I'm flood & drain. Power outages scare the shit out of me! DWC/NFT/Aero are all in trouble with even a short 8-12 hour outage. Do you veg 24/0 like the other bubbleheads?So now that you know that like you, I am using 400W HPS lights, what do you think??
What type of system do you run, someguy? bubbleponics, aeroponics, DWC, or something else? I assume you are a hydro grower since you're visiting the hydro threads. I'd really like to hear what you have going on. In fact, I'll check out your profile after I submit this reply. I hope that you have pics of your girls. I'm sure they are beautiful! I'll go check now.
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I also believe that some of my success lies in the fact that I grow DWC hydro. I believe this to be a very kick ass way to grow!
hardroc
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WOW!!!!!!!!!! 400 watts? REALLY? fuck man you really give me hope, I just bought this 400 I"m using now, my other grows were cfl and mh. Can't wait to see the results from this. After the chop you gotta put up wet and dry weight for me k?So now that you know that like you, I am using 400W HPS lights, what do you think??
What type of system do you run, someguy? bubbleponics, aeroponics, DWC, or something else? I assume you are a hydro grower since you're visiting the hydro threads. I'd really like to hear what you have going on. In fact, I'll check out your profile after I submit this reply. I hope that you have pics of your girls. I'm sure they are beautiful! I'll go check now.
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I also believe that some of my success lies in the fact that I grow DWC hydro. I believe this to be a very kick ass way to grow!
snutter
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yeah man, 400W'er for each plant. I think you're going to be quite happy with your new light!
I will definitely be keeping this post updated with pics of how the grow progresses with pictures. And I post total final weight, plus amount of weight per plant...
Here's a couple pics I took tonight. you can see me behind two of the 4 plants if you look close. Of course I took out my face and painted one in. hahahah.
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snutter
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I have a back up generator in case of power outages. I also have battery packs that will run my air pumps, so I don't worry about that too much. Plus, our power outages usually don't last for more than a few hours around here, and aren't that common...
I do veg 24 hours a day. I'm considering trying 20/4. I'm beginning to believe that there is something to allowing your plants a short rest period each night. I want to do a little more reading on the subject before I decide to try it though. I never blindly try anything...
Also, I'm not a bubblehead. DWC is different from bubbleponics.
I'm a DWC_head. hahah.I've seen some pretty cool flood and drain systems on here. I do like the flood and drain set up, it's pretty cool.
GoldenGanja13
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You should try adding some Molases there you lil Oddball (snutter) lol.
When I first tryed it I was blown away. Never stoped useing it from that point on.
It's good once a week in veg 1tbl per gal, feeds the microrganism in the soil. And in flower it gives extra carbs for the buds, plus it has pottasium, magnisium, and no salt if useing blackstrap.
In 12/12 I give 2 tbls per gallon per feeding as soon as they flower, and my bud size went up 15-20% no smell, no taste, just fatter buds. I use it all the way till I break out the axe. Gives them something to eat after the flush.
When I first tryed it I was blown away. Never stoped useing it from that point on.
It's good once a week in veg 1tbl per gal, feeds the microrganism in the soil. And in flower it gives extra carbs for the buds, plus it has pottasium, magnisium, and no salt if useing blackstrap.
In 12/12 I give 2 tbls per gallon per feeding as soon as they flower, and my bud size went up 15-20% no smell, no taste, just fatter buds. I use it all the way till I break out the axe. Gives them something to eat after the flush.
snutter
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Hahah. too funny!
But, you say you add molasses to your SOIL to feed microorganisms. I grow hydro. I don't see how adding molasses in to my hydro system to do anything but cause problems...
hardroc
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Thanks for the pics budz, looking sweet. This is one of the best lst's I've seen. One question though....you don't clear out a bunch of the lower vegitation before 12/12 and again 2 weeks later? I heard that it's good to get air under the canopy. I was just wondering if you did that and it grew back or you left it? Either way whatever you're doing WORKS! lol
eric.cartman
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wow looks great keeps us posted sweet
snutter
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I don't do lst (takes up too much time, and the benefits aren't worth the time. In fact, I don't think I'd see any real benefits for the time it takes vs. what I'm doing). Basically, this is how they end up from clones.
yeah, I don't really like lollipoping my plants. I pretty much just let the lower growth drop off as it wants to naturally. I do remove some of the lower growth so that a good amount of air can get through down there. I have 2 fans in the flower room, they're just not in any of the pics I've taken. Glad to hear you dig my grow dude!!!
hardroc
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For sure budz, really nice looking plants man, sorry I keep thinking you're doing lst, cause of ALL THE COLAS!!!!!!!!!!! lol
+rep man
Well, You guys all make it so complicated. I just take snippings about 5-6" long from a coat hanger, bend the end to make a hook. and when my clone is small, i bend over the top, putting the hook just below the top node and put my hangar hook in the soil to stay. I keep training that first top sideways, until it hits the side of pot, and let it grow up. Well the point of doing this is that the under branches of the plant start to think they are the top bud since they are receiving so much light.
And well, the "underbranches" start to grow straight up as if they were the top, and then I simply repeat. I get my hooked coat hanger, and i bend over and train the direction i want that new branch to go. I end up with about 10 coat hangers in each pot. The resutls .. well, see for yourself, i get plants this big every single time in a months time.
Bending over makes it SO SO much easier to take clones from, and then of course, gives you the 10-12 top colas/branches that you want. It doesn't hurt that plant at all like topping does.
And well, the "underbranches" start to grow straight up as if they were the top, and then I simply repeat. I get my hooked coat hanger, and i bend over and train the direction i want that new branch to go. I end up with about 10 coat hangers in each pot. The resutls .. well, see for yourself, i get plants this big every single time in a months time.
Bending over makes it SO SO much easier to take clones from, and then of course, gives you the 10-12 top colas/branches that you want. It doesn't hurt that plant at all like topping does.
hardroc
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Well, You guys all make it so complicated. I just take snippings about 5-6" long from a coat hanger, bend the end to make a hook. and when my clone is small, i bend over the top, putting the hook just below the top node and put my hangar hook in the soil to stay. I keep training that first top sideways, until it hits the side of pot, and let it grow up. Well the point of doing this is that the under branches of the plant start to think they are the top bud since they are receiving so much light.
And well, the "underbranches" start to grow straight up as if they were the top, and then I simply repeat. I get my hooked coat hanger, and i bend over and train the direction i want that new branch to go. I end up with about 10 coat hangers in each pot. The resutls .. well, see for yourself, i get plants this big every single time in a months time.
Bending over makes it SO SO much easier to take clones from, and then of course, gives you the 10-12 top colas/branches that you want. It doesn't hurt that plant at all like topping does.
yea nice..........I know how to lst, it's the best way, I think. Check out my journal.... but he don't do lst, his just grow that way and I just keep thinking it's an lst grow, cause that's what I do
snutter
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Hello Mr. Clown,
Yeah, 10-12 colas is nice. I have over 30 colas per plant. And I don't do lst or super crop. I take a clone and let it grow. I get this many tops without doing shit pretty much...So not complicated at all. Read our previous posts and you'll see why I think I get good results. I don't feel like typing it all in again.
Your plants look great, dude. I'm glad you get good results the way you're doing it. That's very cool! the only thing I notice about them is that the leaves seem to curl down a bit. Mine stand almost straight up. As if they're reaching for the lights as hard as they can. A definite sign of excellent health! heheh.
Yeah, 10-12 colas is nice. I have over 30 colas per plant. And I don't do lst or super crop. I take a clone and let it grow. I get this many tops without doing shit pretty much...So not complicated at all. Read our previous posts and you'll see why I think I get good results. I don't feel like typing it all in again.
Your plants look great, dude. I'm glad you get good results the way you're doing it. That's very cool!
the only thing I notice about them is that the leaves seem to curl down a bit. Mine stand almost straight up. As if they're reaching for the lights as hard as they can. A definite sign of excellent health! heheh.well thats crazy you get 30 colas from not bending it over, or setting up something to focus light on other branches... I've never came across any strain that grows into a bush like that from clone. I believe you though, lol, you have pics to prove it.Hello Mr. Clown,
Yeah, 10-12 colas is nice. I have over 30 colas per plant. And I don't do lst or super crop. I take a clone and let it grow. I get this many tops without doing shit pretty much...So not complicated at all. Read our previous posts and you'll see why I think I get good results. I don't feel like typing it all in again.
Your plants look great, dude. I'm glad you get good results the way you're doing it. That's very cool!
And .. the leaves move A LOT, from the pointing up, to pointing down position during flowering. Oh and before i took the pic , I just got done spraying each leaf down with water .. thats probably why they look so "droopy"
snutter
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I can't wait to see yield results either. That's gonna be cool day!!! And I will make sure to post what ever that number is!!!Wow your plants look SOOO healthy! Your use of space is ideal. Very interested to see yield results
I actually didn't say how long I veg'd. I let my girls veg for about 2 months, and then switched to flower mode.
I don't think I will veg this long every time now. I see that I will be able to get a good yield of weed with less of a veg time, and I'm ok with that. however, I am super stoked to be growing these monsters! It's a lot of fun!!!! heheheh.
