indoor organic mix for SOG growing

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greentree85

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I'am in need of some help with mixing my soil for an indoor SOG setup. Heres what I have : organic compost, mushroom compost(it says it is'nt used mushroom compost, but rather sterile unused), bat guano, earthworm castings, blood meal, bone meal, kelp meal, pelletized garden lime,epsom salts and perlite .How would I mix these for a soil that is going to be used exclusively for flowering plants only? Also, once I have my mix, what type of fertilzer routine should I use, or would the soil mix be all that is needed other then just adding my reverse osmosis water? Also have alaska fish emulsion and alaska more bloom,and molasses. All help is appreciated
 
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Luke

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Wow!U have alot of shit there.With my experience inside soil is to not mix in your own,but rather to purchase some already nuted soils like ocean forest or happy frog bagged soil & mix it with pro lite potting soil (without any nutes.)U r taking risk of knat eggs in your compost and other shit that u dont want indoors.Also be careful about using fish emulsion on an idoor operation.It will stink up your growroom.Its great stuff but has an odor.You r better off using that for outdoor use.
 
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durbanmistyman

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yea man with the blood meal you better be either outdoor or in really big pots (7 gal+). i wouldn't reccomend using those ingredients with SOG being you are in small pots you are going to burn the sht out of your plants. go the roots organics soil. 20% perlite max if any at all your preference. No feeding but just water and molasses first month.
 
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greentree85

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both composts I have are bagged and say they are sterile. Could I use a mix of any of these for an indoor SOG or what mix could I use if I dump the SOG idea and just grow them too around 24in. in 3 gallon pots before inducing flowering? once again all comments are appreciated.
 
Dankster4Life

Dankster4Life

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GreenTree....

You have pretty much about all you may need for a mix of your own but of course your at the hard part........."how the f$%k do i mix this crap?!! I am in the same boat.

What size pots you using?You can do a WATER ONLY mix with what you have from what i see.You also have some amendments to make tea if you were to have def in your grow.But to my under standing you'll need ATLEAST 3 gl pots or bigger.

No disrespect to Rollitup........check ICmag....go to organics and check out the organics for beginners sticky.It's alot of readin but READ ALL OF IT..........THEN GO BACK AND READ SOME MORE OF IT.You may find the first medium mix and the dry fert recipe good for you cause you pretty much have almost all you need already.
Good luck to ya and tell us what you come up with
 
Buick455gs

Buick455gs

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This is the mix I've been using for about 7-8 years now. I mix mine in carpenters trash bags. Add ingredients tie closed and roll on the floor for about 10 min. The thing with SOG in soil is you never get the root mass to support big buds like hydro. I tried about 4 years ago. 3'x3' 400w HPS 36 lifesaver clones in the listed soil mix. Average yeild 3.5 grams per plant, very disappointing.

Veg Mix
2 parts peat, 1 part perlite, 1 part earth worm castings. Moisten and mix 2 weeks befor use
2tsp per gal bat guano 0-26-0
2tsp per gal bone meal 4-12-0
1tsp per gal blood meal 12-0-0
1tsp per gal cockadoodle doo (poultry manure) 4-2-3
1tsp per gal potash 0-0-30
1tsp per gal epsom salt
2tsp per gal dolomitic lime

Flowering Mix
2 parts peat, 1 part perlite, 1 part earth worm castings. Moisten and mix 2 weeks befor use
3tsp per gal bat guano 0-26-0
2tsp per gal bone meal 4-12-0
1tsp per gal blood meal 12-0-0
1tsp per gal cockadoodle doo (poultry manure) 4-2-3
1tsp per gal potash 0-0-30
1tsp per gal epsom salt
2tsp per gal dolomitic lime
 
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durbanmistyman

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Dankster4Life said:
Some say yes some so no.......personal preference i guess you could say.But you have to find out where it fits into your grow.
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the molasses has a vey low npk value so it doesnt do much for yo ther what it is for is keeping all of your microorganisms alive and feed. very key and often overlooked part of organic growing for ganja you want a balanced bacteria to fungi ratio in the soil. this will keep you ph balanced and provide easily absorbable nutrients to your roots.
 
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durbanmistyman

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Buick455gs said:
This is the mix I've been using for about 7-8 years now. I mix mine in carpenters trash bags. Add ingredients tie closed and roll on the floor for about 10 min. The thing with SOG in soil is you never get the root mass to support big buds like hydro. I tried about 4 years ago. 3'x3' 400w HPS 36 lifesaver clones in the listed soil mix. Average yeild 3.5 grams per plant, very disappointing.

Veg Mix
2 parts peat, 1 part perlite, 1 part earth worm castings. Moisten and mix 2 weeks befor use
2tsp per gal bat guano 0-26-0
2tsp per gal bone meal 4-12-0
1tsp per gal blood meal 12-0-0
1tsp per gal cockadoodle doo (poultry manure) 4-2-3
1tsp per gal potash 0-0-30
1tsp per gal epsom salt
2tsp per gal dolomitic lime

Flowering Mix
2 parts peat, 1 part perlite, 1 part earth worm castings. Moisten and mix 2 weeks befor use
3tsp per gal bat guano 0-26-0
2tsp per gal bone meal 4-12-0
1tsp per gal blood meal 12-0-0
1tsp per gal cockadoodle doo (poultry manure) 4-2-3
1tsp per gal potash 0-0-30
1tsp per gal epsom salt
2tsp per gal dolomitic lime
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there is no point in using lime. all it will do for him is just will kill beneficial bacteria. he is SOG so his plants will be finished b4 it can begin to breakdown to provide any calcium. alot of people mess up using lime. i wouldn't use it unless i was going to put it in my compost pile outside which is not going to be used for 6 months so it would have time to breakdown.
 
Buick455gs

Buick455gs

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The lime is to ballance the ph of the peat moss. Shit I get enough calcium from my water. "there is no point in using lime. all it will do for him is just will kill beneficial bacteria". Well maybe you should tell that to my soil. Like I said I've been using this mix for 7-8 years no problem. I got the base of the mix from BOG on overgrow. Here I'll let the plants speak for me.
 

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mr.smileyface

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"The thing with SOG in soil is you never get the root mass to support big buds like hydro"

hey buddy for organic it is best to do it in beds and mix it with coco peat or promix. i do mine in tables that are 4'x8' and plant 70 in each bed. veg for a week and your off to buds
 
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mr.smileyface

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Buick455gs said:
I'd love to hear more about your setup. Soil mix, lighting, co2/no co2, what size "bed"?
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For soil i mix bat shit(2 rare earth containers), 1 large worm castings,1 rare earth silicon,500gs oxycal(perbed),3bags of pro-mix ph.
4hps 1000
2mh 1000
SOG
no c02
a bed is a table
 
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Buick455gs

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So you're running 6000 watts over one 4'x8' table? So 187.5 watts per square foot? And only 1400 grams dry. So if my math is right that's 0.23 grams per watt. With only 400 watts over a 3'x3' I avg 0.31 grams per watt.
 
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