Preparing for this summers grow. Still got alot to learn...

[svchop889]

oo, if that's the case you would benefit from throwing in a few blue bulbs in there, should boost growth even more.

hes growing outside hes just starting them inside not finishing them also. what he has will work.

 

[Subtlechaos]

Thank you for getting back to me, chi-town. I see the PM didn't go unnoticed...

illinois soil is very fertile thats why inidians inhabited this state. you can use w/e nutes you want.... i only use nutes on my outdoor plants only when they look like they need it. like yellowing leaves and shit like that. you growing in your yard or guerilla style?

Awesome. Not having too much concern with fertilizing will make things alot easier. So, I could order some good soil mix, add some perlite to make it easier for them to breath, and I should be good. MAYBE some veggie fertilizer in June, and some flowering fert in Sept... If Im understanding you right.
I'm doing multiple guerilla gardens. Some will have to be a good distance from my house.

try to find a place close or not to far from a water source, rigging up a subpump and hose if you have to. a major concern of your sould be rabbit and deer. rabbits mainly when there young plants. i would reccomend some kind of low key fencing or protection, with a combo of like a sock soaked in coyote piss, and put into something or hung from somewere were it will give off a scent and not get rained on soo much. like a hole in the trunk of a tree or even a small birdhouse hanging from a tree. i noticed some of your plants lean sativa your strains i mean. the lemon haze may have an issue finishing flowering. i had some mexican sativas hybrids outside this year that i picked in nov. and needed more time!

and also to avoid detection dont put all your eggs in one basket.... have a few plots with smaller numbers of plants rather then one huge plot that will be easyily noticed from air. this way your guaerentied a harvest.... hop[e this helps

Killer advice, man! As I said before, I'll be rechecking this thread all season long for tricks, and advice.

 

[chitownsmoking]

yeah your getting me...... put it to you like this..... i only used nutes like 4 times during my whole near 7 month grow outside and shit came out good. just be sure to pick a good spot that gets lots of direct sun.

 

[svchop889]

have the soil your growing in outside analyzed by the deparment of agriculture they can tell you the NPK value of your soil and what you need to add in what amounts to reach a desired pH. just tell them your growing corn and they will be able to tell you what you need to get your soil right. some colleges will do it also I know Michigan State University does but they have a huge agricultural department.

 

[Subtlechaos]

No one mentioned it yet but that HPS bulb you bought is only enough for flowering.... for vegging you want to use a 6500k spectrum bulb..... CFLs or MH all I can think of, I would recommend the MH if you can get one.

I noticed that noone had said anything about my light. I was assuming it meant I was ok. I will say that they market that 430 Son Agro bulb as having an enhanced blue spectrum for better vegetative growth.

I always dig through the Plant problems forum. It helps me learn.
In doing that, I've noticed that growers lose ALOT of plants when transitioning them to natural light.

I'll definately take your advice, and get a MH light. Maybe a fairly low spectrum, just to add some intensity. I dont see anyone saying it will hurt anything to do so.
Any suggestions for wattage? I dont want to over-do it...

 

[chitownsmoking]

have the soil your growing in outside analyzed by the deparment of agriculture they can tell you the NPK value of your soil and what you need to add in what amounts to reach a desired pH. just tell them your growing corn and they will be able to tell you what you need to get your soil right. some colleges will do it also I know Michigan State University does but they have a huge agricultural department.

most of illinois esp rural ill. is dominated by cornfields. the soil here is dank all the farmers usually need to do is till and add a lil cow shit. we got that black gold when it comes to soil.

 

[Subtlechaos]

have the soil your growing in outside analyzed by the deparment of agriculture they can tell you the NPK value of your soil and what you need to add in what amounts to reach a desired pH. just tell them your growing corn and they will be able to tell you what you need to get your soil right. some colleges will do it also I know Michigan State University does but they have a huge agricultural department.

Not a bad idea for a couple of spots, but most of my grows will be kind of sporadic.
I got plenty of farmer friends.(No shortage of farmers in my area) I should be able get it tested, if that turns out to be an option.

 

[Subtlechaos]

most of illinois esp rural ill. is dominated by cornfields. the soil here is dank all the farmers usually need to do is till and add a lil cow shit. we got that black gold when it comes to soil.

It's definately the RURAL part of Illinois Im livin' in... My whole family are all hicks! Haha!

 

[GPD.831]

If you can, find a really dense bramble bush, or really anything with spikes, or hell, just a really dense thicket! Cut a secret path at about rabbit-height and then clear out a small place to put your plants. If you can, find a nitrogen fixing plant thicket, such as French Broom (thats where i'm putting mine) (I believe french broom only grows coastal, though)
Good luck! have fun! don't get caught!

 

[Subtlechaos]

If you can, find a really dense bramble bush, or really anything with spikes, or hell, just a really dense thicket! Cut a secret path at about rabbit-height and then clear out a small place to put your plants. If you can, find a nitrogen fixing plant thicket, such as French Broom (thats where i'm putting mine) (I believe french broom only grows coastal, though)
Good luck! have fun! don't get caught!

Awesome idea! Thanx 4 that. +rep

 

[mijola3]

yes all good advice\
if your worried about soil, go in feb. or march, and dig some holes, turn the soil with a little "DOLOMITIC LIMESTONE" or dolomite lime, garden lime, whatever you call it
simply nutrilizing the soil and creating a fairly ballanced PH, a little wood ash sweetens the soil if you ask me, but dont go overboard, a little goes along way.
be sure to water the holes down good (in case of lack of pre-season rain) so the soil is well rinsed.
good luck my man (and as for ferts tiger bloom and big bloom, all the way!)

 

[chitownsmoking]

also try to pick plots with natural shit like bee's nest, lots of mosquitos, lots of those sticky burrs thorn having plants ect. try not to leave a path to your grow area, all this will help to keep people away

 

[Subtlechaos]

Im gonna win the 2010 outdoor competition.

 

[svchop889]

im growing in the middle of a bunch of wild rose bushes it fucking sucks getting to my spot, also look for south facing slopes that way you get more light as we are in the northern hemisphere

 

[smalltownDill]

rightoh man im a seasoned i guess you could say outdoor grower, mixing your soil depends really i find, if it's really loose loamy soil you won't need any perlite for it just add your lama and sheep shit to that mix it up it will be goo for the year that way, and then feed a low nitrogen fertilizer through the veg time, cause with the shit in there your not gonna need a whole bunch of nitrogen additives, but i suggest buying bags of soil mix 1/3 black earth 1/3 mushroom compost if you can find it and 1/3 perlite and you will have a perfect plot or holes, personally i dig big holes for each plant, as for fertilizer i use yes the dreaded miracle grow tomato 20-20-20 for veg and when i start to see flowers i switch to 10-60-10 bloom, don't hate on miracle grow it works amazing for me outdoor, if you do some of these or follow it you will have huge plant, cause mine get really big nomatter the strain with these methods, and from where you live your grow season will start around may 24 or early june, so id start the seeds around february or march and and then put them outside if you want to get monsters but if not and you just want nice big plant's, get your seeds or clones ready bout a month before you put them in the ground, really hope this helped you out, good luck and good growing

 

[Subtlechaos]

rightoh man im a seasoned i guess you could say outdoor grower, mixing your soil depends really i find, if it's really loose loamy soil you won't need any perlite for it just add your lama and sheep shit to that mix it up it will be goo for the year that way, and then feed a low nitrogen fertilizer through the veg time, cause with the shit in there your not gonna need a whole bunch of nitrogen additives, but i suggest buying bags of soil mix 1/3 black earth 1/3 mushroom compost if you can find it and 1/3 perlite and you will have a perfect plot or holes, personally i dig big holes for each plant, as for fertilizer i use yes the dreaded miracle grow tomato 20-20-20 for veg and when i start to see flowers i switch to 10-60-10 bloom, don't hate on miracle grow it works amazing for me outdoor, ...

Really? Miracle grow? I've heard horror stories about that stuff.

if you do some of these or follow it you will have huge plant, cause mine get really big nomatter the strain with these methods, and from where you live your grow season will start around may 24 or early june, so id start the seeds around february or march and and then put them outside if you want to get monsters but if not and you just want nice big plant's, get your seeds or clones ready bout a month before you put them in the ground, really hope this helped you out, good luck and good growing

Indeed it did help me out. I was waiting for some advice as to when to start them. I think I will just start them a month early, like you said, and put them outside in May.

Thanx, man! +rep for you, sir!

 

[smalltownDill]

Indeed it did help me out. I was waiting for some advice as to when to start them. I think I will just start them a month early, like you said, and put them outside in May.

Thanx, man! +rep for you, sir!

im glad it helped my good man, and mucho thanks for the +rep hope all goes well ill follow your outdoor once it comes time

 

[Subtlechaos]

Right on, man. Im pretty sure It'll be the only grow journal named "Super Lemon Haze, Himalayan Gold, A-Train, Mama Mia, & Original Skunk #1 Outdoor Grow". hahaha. Talk about a mouthful.

 

[smalltownDill]

Right on, man. Im pretty sure It'll be the only grow journal named "Super Lemon Haze, Himalayan Gold, A-Train, Mama Mia, & Original Skunk #1 Outdoor Grow". hahaha. Talk about a mouthful.

ill definatly be checkin it out

 

[Subtlechaos]

@ svchop889: If you find that time machine, Sometime before 1930 should be sufficient. You'll catch him before he ever makes office. Haha.

I was looking back over the thread and noticed your sig... That's cool shit.