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PadawanBater

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30 or so minutes of logical pwnage from AronRa, enjoy! (it's all worth watching, but it gets really good in part 2)

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An excellent point made that I'd like a believer to address;

-even if you paid me I could not believe in something I see no evidence for, he touches on it in the beginning of part 2 and explains exactly how belief works. It's not something you're born with, it's not something you "choose". Belief is based on evidence, what you guys have is faith.
 
doc111

doc111

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There is no way to prove one way or the other. There is a god, there isn't a god......what difference does it make? We are all going to die anyway. Maybe we go to heaven, maybe we go to hell. Maybe we just go to sleep and that's it. Who knows for sure? Neither side will ever be able to show Hard Evidence. It's all about faith which is a very abstract concept for humans. You have to believe one or the other. So in summation both sides have Faith that they are correct. :weed:
 
8deez8

8deez8

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The more we trust our own logic and intelligence, the poorer we become. Look up fractional reserve banking this world is poorer than it has ever been.

Think about it. We have had countless advances in manufacturing and industry...one man can move 40 tons of cargo 500 miles in a day. Does he eat better than the man who moved 1 ton 20 miles 100 years ago? (who ate ORGANIC to boot!)Shouldnt everyone be able to afford a manufactured home for example?

Inflation and Depression steals it from under our feet and gives it to the USURER, or interest collector. Protestants thought they were noble for following Luther, little do they know it is THEY who ushered in interest bearing practices!! The bible states ANY INTEREST BEARED ON MONEY BORROWED IS WRONG. USURY is ANY interest collected! WE CANNOT RELY ON OUR OWN ASTUTENESS.
 
morgentaler

morgentaler

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Great. Ask the vatican to release it's funds to the poor.

Start a campaign to take back the millions of dollars your religious leaders collect on TV to pay for hookers and mansions.

Or stuff your hypocrisy where the sun doesn't shine.
 
morgentaler

morgentaler

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doc111 said:
So in summation both sides have Faith that they are correct. :weed:
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No, one side makes something up and expects everyone else to believe it.

Not believing in their mythology does not require any faith.

Do you have faith in leprechauns and doppelgangers as well? What about Cujo? Spongebob?

I don't need to have "faith" that Spongebob isn't real.
 
morgentaler

morgentaler

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8deez8 said:
Some people would call that perfect humility, a goal of a Christian.
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Then why is the US, with one of the highest Christian per capitas in the world, and a politics dominated by Christian representatives, economically capitalist?

That would seem in complete contradiction to your statement.
 
morgentaler

morgentaler

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Woodstock.Hippie said:

Feet roasting has historically worked very well, Mr. Morgentaler.
Perhaps you could try it when attempting to convert the Christians to your lack of faith.
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I'll stick to attacking their lack of reason, not their flesh.

Let's leave the torture to the torturers and their religious justifications.
 
8deez8

8deez8

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doc111 said:
Neither side will ever be able to show Hard Evidence.
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This is HARD EVIDENCE >>>

http://www.iamthewitness.com/DarylBradfordSmith_Bankers.htm

http://www.millenniumprophecy.com

This is my testimony

One day Ithrew in the towel and got on my knees and sincerely told God I was helpless, and asked for the help of Jesus. What followed was the most spiritually evidentiary thing that ever happened to me. ABSOlutely personal evidence, something Im sure Ill never be able to relate like it feels, but that's just it, you have to have it in your heart, maybe you humbly feel that you know death is your end, or whatever, when you are DESTITUTE and want atonement, you will have evidence of the Holy Ghost. Laugh it up I know I did I used to poke fun at Christians, and aquaintances would turn to Christ and I'd say "I'm too tough for that shit, they make it up when they're down, I'll always laugh at them." I was a satanic TOOL, and when I came to the Lord I felt so used by Satan, all he wants is to keep us complacent with his fluoride and pharmaceuticals to damn us all. In the bible it says of the last days "because you are neither hot nor cold, but you are lukewarm, Ill shall spit you out of my mouth". Don't go on happy with the status quo, for Christ sake Marijuana is illegal and it isn't getting any better!

Type in "Obama backwards" on youtube see if that shit doesn't scare you
 
morgentaler

morgentaler

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If that's your idea of evidence, I have some lead I'd like to sell to you for only 5000 dollars a pound. With my simple alchemical formula you can change it to GOLD and make your money back in seconds!

Why aren't I keeping this formula to myself to profit off of? I want to share this wealth so that all men are equal before Jesus! (See, I use his name to add credibility here. Is it working yet?)

Cash only please, no checks or money orders! Praise Jesus! (BUY BUY BUY!)
 
8deez8

8deez8

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morgentaler said:
Then why is the US, with one of the highest Christian per capitas in the world, and a politics dominated by Christian representatives, economically capitalist?

That would seem in complete contradiction to your statement.
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I said a goal, no one can achieve it. That is why we need Christ.

And if it weren't for fractional reserve banking I think capitalism could support even the most challenged person very comfortably. It's principles would not be cutthroat like they have become, because for the past 96 years we have had to compete against the rate of inflation/depression to stay afloat.
 
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