Club 600

[Lil ganja princess]

well i cant join ur group yet . im 100watts off lol. so ill just watch ur fab grows from the sidelines

 

[DST]

Quick, someone find a 100w for LGP, this can't be right!!

Edit, in fact LGP, as a founding member, I think since you are in the middle of the 400 and 600 that we can let it slide. lol.

DST

 

[unity]

well i cant join ur group yet . im 100watts off lol. so ill just watch ur fab grows from the sidelines

Well darling, from the way you sound I'm sure your beautiful presents adds 100 watt easily...

 

[Lil ganja princess]

What do you guys think about switching to a MH late in flowering? And does it make sense with a conversion bulb (lumen loss)?

my four girls have spent 2 weeks under a 250 metal halide, now there u8nder a 250 metal halide and 250 HPS. this will change 2* 250w HPS. i thought that the hetal halide has the blue septrum which is best for vegging. so wouldnt adding one at the end reduce yeild and revert it bk to veg.

this might b bollocks but its my interpretation

 

[unity]

my four girls have spent 2 weeks under a 250 metal halide, now there u8nder a 250 metal halide and 250 HPS. this will change 2* 250w HPS. i thought that the hetal halide has the blue septrum which is best for vegging. so wouldnt adding one at the end reduce yeild and revert it bk to veg.

this might b bollocks but its my interpretation

Yeah, that's one side of the story, and probably the reason I have not done it yet.
The other side would be more aroma, more trich production an overall dankier product.
I think the best would be both, but I'm a hobbyist, and money is tight...
Unity

 

[Lil ganja princess]

Yeah, that's one side of the story, and probably the reason I have not done it yet.
The other side would be more aroma, more trich production an overall dankier product.
I think the best would be both, but I'm a hobbyist, and money is tight...
Unity

shove the plant in a cupbord that has complete darkness for a couple of days that will increase resin production

 

[unity]

shove the plant in a cupbord that has complete darkness for a couple of days that will increase resin production

Will give them the 36 hours for sure
I think you are more then qualified for the club, but DST makes the rules and I'm new here

 

[Lil ganja princess]

so am i resonably new. i have bin helping out on mr west grow for about 2 years now, so i thought i would branch out with a little sommit. he still helps me. wouldnt b where i am whithout him and some of the guys on this forum

 

[Don Gin and Ton]

Competitions are always good, I have one on my thread to guess two clones for free beans, but have had about 4 guesses so far...no one wants anything free these dayz?
i think its more to do with the cynicist view that you dont get anything for nothing
But I am all up for some fun and games. Need to go out and buy a weeding present but will try and come up with something. What you thinking, a 600 club comp?

yeah just some sort of comp for shits n giggles and a prize of some sort?!

Or Perhaps an experiment or two?

im up for that too

well i cant join ur group yet . im 100watts off lol. so ill just watch ur fab grows from the sidelines

If my vote counts for shit ill have ya aboard LGP! i know youve got the minerals!

 

[jigfresh]

Hey yall... about the MH, HPS stuff. I have experience and opinions. First off... MH will NEVER turn your plants back to veg... that has to do with the light timing... not wavelength. 12 hours of darkness a night tells them to flower no matter what light. Making nights shorter will bring them back to veg.

I think switching to MH late in flowering is too late to pack on the trichs. The best time to have MH in flowering (in my opinion) is around week 3-4. This is when I have noticed the most trichs packing on the girls and the MH will make more of them show up (from what I and others on the site have observed). However if you only give them MH during this time, you will for sure be giving up weight.

I think the best thing (like dst mentioned) is a mix of MH and HPS. You still get the weight and heft from the HPS, but you get extra sticky from the MH.

I use a 400w HPS and 250w MH. Seems to be a really good mix. The plants on the HPS side were bigger... the ones on the MH side were stickier and tastier... the ones in the middle seemed just about right. I've read also that 1:2 - MH:HPS is a good ratio. Not giving up too much weight, but still getting the trichs.

If you aren't worried about yeild at all... I would flower the whole time with MH. Have some sweet sweet buds.

Also, from what I know... HPS during veg makes the plants stretch more than using MH during veg.

 

[DST]

Will give them the 36 hours for sure
I think you are more then qualified for the club, but DST makes the rules and I'm new here

It's all chiefs, u guys must have missed my post on the previous page - with Edit.

so am i resonably new. i have bin helping out on mr west grow for about 2 years now, so i thought i would branch out with a little sommit. he still helps me. wouldnt b where i am whithout him and some of the guys on this forum

Welcome LGP. Good to have you on board, bring some order to the house when needed.

yeah just some sort of comp for shits n giggles and a prize of some sort?!

im up for that too


If my vote counts for shit ill have ya aboard LGP! i know youve got the minerals!

How about:

1. Craziest cross
2. Madest looking plant
3. Best yield from a plant
4. Best yield from an area
5. Sexist bud shot.
6. Stickiest Bud shot
7. Most ingenious design - light, grow medium, blah, blah.

Experiments. You name it.

Hey yall... about the MH, HPS stuff. I have experience and opinions. First off... MH will NEVER turn your plants back to veg... that has to do with the light timing... not wavelength. 12 hours of darkness a night tells them to flower no matter what light. Making nights shorter will bring them back to veg.

I think switching to MH late in flowering is too late to pack on the trichs. The best time to have MH in flowering (in my opinion) is around week 3-4. This is when I have noticed the most trichs packing on the girls and the MH will make more of them show up (from what I and others on the site have observed). However if you only give them MH during this time, you will for sure be giving up weight.

I think the best thing (like dst mentioned) is a mix of MH and HPS. You still get the weight and heft from the HPS, but you get extra sticky from the MH.

I use a 400w HPS and 250w MH. Seems to be a really good mix. The plants on the HPS side were bigger... the ones on the MH side were stickier and tastier... the ones in the middle seemed just about right. I've read also that 1:2 - MH:HPS is a good ratio. Not giving up too much weight, but still getting the trichs.

If you aren't worried about yeild at all... I would flower the whole time with MH. Have some sweet sweet buds.

Also, from what I know... HPS during veg makes the plants stretch more than using MH during veg.

So what you reckon Jig, et al, I am planning to veg for a couple more weeks I think. Hopefully my MH light comes through and the ballast works with it. If so I want to try and get it in for a bit of veg. Then After the two weeks I am going down gradually, 18hour, 17 hour, and so on each day, then 12. Would you run both throughout this stage constant?

 

[jigfresh]

I'd keep it strictly MH till the pistils start spitting up. Keep the stretch down. Unless of course you want your girls to spread out a little... sometimes comes in handy.

ps. The postman was good to me today

 

[Heads Up]

HEAR HEAR heads up thats my MO too i try to read up as much as possible and form my own opinion. for example i run coco n never have any run off yet everyone says oh how do you know whats going on in your ph and ec etc etc all i have to say is if it aint broke why fix it.

i read my plants i look at the leaves and and the overall growth and the girls will tell me if they're missing something. learning to read you plants is something RIU cant teach imo it truly comes with experience.

interesting pumping N in the last weeks id imagine it wuld be best at 3 weeks before chop to give maximum growth spurt while your using some sort of boost?! ive never heard of grow big?! whats the NPK?

welcome to 600 club man! your girls look great especially the two hiding at the back

Fox Farm Grow Big. I do ph my water after I mix my nutes to 6.5 and about the third or fourth week of flowering I go to 6.3/6.4 for the simple reason my soil is up around seven by then. My tap water comes out over 8.0, I ph all the liquids I give my plants. I figure if I do that I shouldn't have any ph problems creep in later.

Back to the leaves, the nitrogen and adding it now. I figure I have at least two weeks left probably three and like I said I don't plan on flushing this grow, maybe the last three or four days will be only water and molasses. I've read from people who grow with chemical fertilizers that without flushing, their bud tastes great. They say it's all in the drying and curing process. I'm inclined to agree but I don't really have enough experience to know for sure. This dry I plan on doing slowly, at least a week of hanging and then jarring for at least two hopefully I can hold out for three. Even if I only last two weeks the rest will still have plenty of time to finish curing.

 

[jigfresh]

I've read from people who grow with chemical fertilizers that without flushing, their bud tastes great. They say it's all in the drying and curing process. I'm inclined to agree but I don't really have enough experience to know for sure.

I use chemical ferts, and I'll tell you my experience says flushing is absolutely critical. My pot tastes like Shit when there is too much nitrogen in it. And that is with a 5 day flush... a 6 day dry... and even now with a 6 month cure... still tastes nasty. I try to flush for two weeks now. I'm not saying those other guys are wrong... just what my experience has been.

Another opinion... I've never seen growth of anything in the last couple weeks, so I don't know why you would need more nutes.

Sorry my bad manners. WELCOME to all the new arrivals to Club 600.

 

[Heads Up]

I use chemical ferts, and I'll tell you my experience says flushing is absolutely critical. My pot tastes like Shit when there is too much nitrogen in it. And that is with a 5 day flush... a 6 day dry... and even now with a 6 month cure... still tastes nasty. I try to flush for two weeks now. I'm not saying those other guys are wrong... just what my experience has been.

Another opinion... I've never seen growth of anything in the last couple weeks, so I don't know why you would need more nutes.

Sorry my bad manners. WELCOME to all the new arrivals to Club 600.

I am doing my best to not get stuck in the, this is the way it has to be done thinking. It's not that I think I need more nutes, I need more nitrogen in relation to the other nutes. I'm starting to think that the loss of leaves due to them yellowing during flowering can be avoided and since the leaves are basically the lungs and food factory of the plant, keeping them green for the whole grow can be nothing but beneficial for your buds and overall health of the plant. If that takes a little more N every once in a while, I'm going to give it to them regardless of what the masses say. I am not concerned about experimenting, I rather enjoy it to be honest. If it doesn't work and screws up my girls, I'll know not to do it again, that's all.

And welcome to all the new members too.

 

[Heads Up]

This competition thingy. I plan on having six new beans in the dirt on friday the first. These strains are sativa dominant. I will have one feminized Arjan's Haze#1, Arjan's Strawberry Haze also feminized. Two Sour Creams, a cross of a g13 haze and a clone from the original sour diesel, also feminized beans. One each of Jock Horror and Malawi99 both regular seeds which I hope to get a male of one or the other for crossing. If I get both males I'll save the pollen for future use.

Anyone else growing or will be growing sativa?

 

[jigfresh]

I am doing my best to not get stuck in the, this is the way it has to be done thinking. It's not that I think I need more nutes, I need more nitrogen in relation to the other nutes. I'm starting to think that the loss of leaves due to them yellowing during flowering can be avoided and since the leaves are basically the lungs and food factory of the plant, keeping them green for the whole grow can be nothing but beneficial for your buds and overall health of the plant. If that takes a little more N every once in a while, I'm going to give it to them regardless of what the masses say. I am not concerned about experimenting, I rather enjoy it to be honest. If it doesn't work and screws up my girls, I'll know not to do it again, that's all.

And welcome to all the new members too.

Right on bro... I'm all for trying stuff. I'm also for trying stuff against the grain. I totally agree the best thing for the plants overall is to keep them healthy and green... I'm just selfish I guess. I'm not really trying to grow plants to be nice to them... I'm trying to push them as hard as I can under the conditions and ride them till death. Sounds horrible I know. I do love my plants. They are just meant for killer smoke is all. I think there is some honor in that for the girls.

I took some pics of my roots today... I hope you don't mind me sharing. This was a sour grape plant. 2.5 feet tall.

 

[jigfresh]

This competition thingy. I plan on having six new beans in the dirt on friday the first. These strains are sativa dominant. I will have one feminized Arjan's Haze#1, Arjan's Strawberry Haze also feminized. Two Sour Creams, a cross of a g13 haze and a clone from the original sour diesel, also feminized beans. One each of Jock Horror and Malawi99 both regular seeds which I hope to get a male of one or the other for crossing. If I get both males I'll save the pollen for future use.

Anyone else growing or will be growing sativa?

Wow, nice strains. Are you growing all those at the same time?

I am going to start a new grow soon and hope to get a good sativa strain... however I am probably growing from clones and won't start for at least a few weeks.

I also just got some Headband seeds I might germ... but I've never germed seeds before and don't want to mess up the 5 I got. I may try germing some Indica hybrid seeds I have from before?

 

[Lil ganja princess]

its amazing when ya seen the roots of plants. ive helped harvest a girl, that u would b that it produced that much bud from such little roots or vise versa

 

[Heads Up]

Wow, nice strains. Are you growing all those at the same time?

I am going to start a new grow soon and hope to get a good sativa strain... however I am probably growing from clones and won't start for at least a few weeks.

I also just got some Headband seeds I might germ... but I've never germed seeds before and don't want to mess up the 5 I got. I may try germing some Indica hybrid seeds I have from before?

No not all of them. I want to save the supers silver haze, the neville's haze and the hawaiian snow for after I get some experience.

Nice plant structure and root system, how was the yield? And of course how was/is the smoke?

As far as germing, I don't germ my seeds. I soak them in distilled water for about twenty hours and pop them into the soil. This upcoming grow I'm trying some of those grow plugs and a humidity dome which I have never used before. I always just soak my seeds and plant them, very few have not popped with that method. I really do try to keep it simple. In case anyone doesn't know. Growing from seed, the pointy end is where the root comes out, it should be planted up so the tap root starts out going up and then turns and goes down eventually pushing the seed husk out of the ground.

I also use rectangular waste paper baskets for my containers, two and three gallon sizes. I love the depth of them. I put about an inch or so of rock in the bottom and plenty of holes drilled into the bottom to let any overrun out easily.