is this anything worth trying?

[Supreme Skunk]

Its alaska morbloom and i found some that we already have and thought about giving it a shot on my girl(2 1/2) weeks into flowering..... Anyone know of it?

Let me know please, thanks RIU members.

 

[riddleme]

looks like 0-10-10

I would not use it but it will work if you add some N

that # is the N-P-K ratio and MJ wants a 1-3-2 ratio for bloom

 

[Supreme Skunk]

looks like 0-10-10

I would not use it but it will work if you add some N

that # is the N-P-K ratio and MJ wants a 1-3-2 ratio for bloom

well they also make a small botlle of fish fertilizer for blooming thats 5-1-1 and ive been advised to mixx the two since it will come out 5-11-11 which is apperently a good ratio? What do yall think?
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[T.H.Cammo]

Here you go!!!

I use this stuff as part of an overall stratigy. I start with an organic soil mix that is balanced (equal numbers for N-P-K), but a little on the weak side. I repot with the same mix all the way though the grow.

During the "Veg" stage, I augment with a little "Regular" Alaska Fish Emulsion (5-1-1), and a "skosh" of Mexican Bat Guano (10-2-1). This combination is my "Grow Formula".

During the "Flower" stage, I augment with a little "Mor Bloom" Alaska Fish Emulsion (0-10-10), and a "skosh" of Indonesian Bat Guano (0-12-0). This combination is my "Flower Formula".

Very simple, very economical and very organic!

 

[Supreme Skunk]

Here you go!!!

I use this stuff as part of an overall stratigy. I start with an organic soil mix that is balanced (equal numbers for N-P-K), but a little on the weak side. I repot with the same mix all the way though the grow.

During the "Veg" stage, I augment with a little "Regular" Alaska Fish Emulsion (5-1-1), and a "skosh" of Mexican Bat Guano (10-2-1). This combination is my "Grow Formula".

During the "Flower" stage, I augment with a little "Mor Bloom" Alaska Fish Emulsion (0-10-10), and a "skosh" of Indonesian Bat Guano (0-12-0). This combination is my "Flower Formula".

Very simple, very economical and very organic!

well i like the sound of this but is there no problem with not having any nitrogen in an organic grow?

 

[T.H.Cammo]

well i like the sound of this but is there no problem with not having any nitrogen in an organic grow?

There is already nitrogen in the "soil mix". As well as phosphorous and potassium, these are the "balanced N-P-K numbers" I refered to. I start out with a soil mix that is basically:
"Four-way Mix"
1 part (store bought) Topsoil.
1 part "Compost".
1 part perlite or vermiculite.
1 part "Steer Manure".
The 1 part "Steer Manure" can be made up of anything you like, as long as it meets these three criterion:
1. It should have roughly equal amounts of N-P-K (nitrogen, phosphorous and potassium).
2. It equals 1/4 of the overall volumne of the mix (it's ok to mix in "filler").
3. It is about the same potentency as straight, "Plain Old Composted Steer Manure".

The "1 part Steer Manure" I actually use is made up of three "store bought" fertilizers:
1. Gardner & Bloome's "Farmyard Blend" (a variety of livestock manures).
2. Two different brands of dry (meal type) organic fertilizers, they contain all sorts of "meals": blood, bone, feather, alfalpha, etc. as well as a shitload of beneficial micro-organisms.

All this stuff is in my soil mix, to begin with (in moderate quantity). plus I add more soil mix everytime i repot up to a larger size. In this way, the soil provides a "balanced" but somewhat "diluted" amount of nutes. Then, as I explained before, I "Spike" the nitrogen a little during the veg cycle and "Spike" the phosphorous a little during the flowering cycle.
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[smitty420420]

hey man i got that but for veg its just ground up fish good if u go organic

 

[Supreme Skunk]

alright T.H i see what your saying, thankyou very much and im going to keep this in mind for my next project

 

[tokenblackman420]

Here you go!!!

I use this stuff as part of an overall stratigy. I start with an organic soil mix that is balanced (equal numbers for N-P-K), but a little on the weak side. I repot with the same mix all the way though the grow.

During the "Veg" stage, I augment with a little "Regular" Alaska Fish Emulsion (5-1-1), and a "skosh" of Mexican Bat Guano (10-2-1). This combination is my "Grow Formula".

During the "Flower" stage, I augment with a little "Mor Bloom" Alaska Fish Emulsion (0-10-10), and a "skosh" of Indonesian Bat Guano (0-12-0). This combination is my "Flower Formula".

Very simple, very economical and very organic!

how many parts of each nutrient is in the mix? im an extremely new grower and would appreciate the help.

 

[T.H.Cammo]

how many parts of each nutrient is in the mix? im an extremely new grower and would appreciate the help.

Hey Token, sorry to leave you "hangin' on the edge", man! Been watching our grand-daughter for a few days - kinda busy, you understand, i'm sure!

Ok, the following recipe is for "Four-way Mix". That's the basic soil mix I use to pot and repot everything in, all the way through the whole grow.

"Four-way Mix"
1 part (store bought) Topsoil.
1 part "Compost".
1 part perlite or vermiculite.
1 part "Steer Manure".

The 1 part "Steer Manure" can be made up of anything you like, as long as it meets these three criteria:
1. It should have roughly equal amounts of N-P-K (nitrogen, phosphorous and potassium). This is what's known as a "Balanced" nutrient or fertilizer
2. It equals 1/4 of the overall volumne of the mix (it's ok to mix in "filler" if you're using something "hotter" than plain Steer manure). The "filler" is just more of the other 3 ingredients: compost, top soil and Perlite; mixed in with the nutrients to give it a full "Part".
3. It is about the same potentency as straight, "Plain Old Composted Steer Manure", which is about 1-1-1 to 1.5-1.5-1.5.

The "1 part Steer Manure" I actually use is made up of three "store bought" fertilizers:
1. Gardner & Bloome's "Farmyard Blend" (a variety of livestock manures).
2. Two different brands of dry (meal type) organic fertilizers, they contain all sorts of "meals": blood, bone, feather, alfalpha, etc. as well as a shitload of beneficial micro-organisms.

The dry fertilizers I use are:
1. "Kellogg's Organic All Purpose Fertilizer" (with beneficial soil microbes & Mycorrhizae), 4-4-4.
2. "Whitney Farms Life Link (Organic) All Purpose Plant Food" (also with active soil microbes and Mycorrhizae), 5-5-5.

Now, to complicate matters a little, Gardner & Bloome doesn't give N-P-K numbers for thier "Farmyard Blend! But I know it's made from several different farm manures and some other composted materials. So, with the the help of some "Kentucky Windage" (and a giant leap of faith), I take a wild ass guess that it's about equal strength with plain Steer Manure (about 1-1-1 to 1.5-1.5-1.5).

So now, back to the 1 part "Steer Manure". I've decided to make my "Steer Manure" out of 1/2 "Farmyard Blend", 1/4 "Kellogg's" & filler and 1/4 "Whitney Farms & filler. One of the dry fertilizers says to use "2 heaping Tblspns." per gal. of soil - the other one says "1/4 cup" per gal. I split the difference and go with about "5 tspns." of each type per gal. of "filler".

So, to make a long story short, each batch of "4-Way Mix" yields about 8 gallons or about 1 cu.ft. of soil mix; let each "part" equal 2 gallons:
"Four-way Mix"
2 gal. (store bought) Topsoil.
2 gal. "Compost".
2 gal. perlite or vermiculite.
2 gal. "Steer Manure".*
* The 2 gal. of "Steer Manure" that I actually use are made up of:
1 gal. Steer Manure.
1/3 gal. (store bought) Topsoil
1/3 gal. "Compost".
1/3 gal. Perlite or Vermiculite.
5 teaspoons "Kellogg's" fertilizer.
5 teaspoons "Whitney Farms" fertilizer.

As for the Bat Guano and Fish Emulsion that I use to "spike" the "N" for vegging and the "P" for flowering. I apply these as directed on the lable for "Container Plants", but only at about 1/2 strength. I dilute the Fish Emulsion way down, even more, because I use it at every watering; in other words about 1/14th strength.