Dual Areoponic Cabinet, Ceramic Metal Halide
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8deez8
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Cruzer,
In all due respect, you only got 166g in aeroponics? Your skill is far superior to my own! What hope is there for me? I have seen folks get 325g/400w cmh. Was this a partial harvest?
Thanks again for your documentation on DIY aeroponic cab! Very helpful!
DoeEyed
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Was there a point to you coming in to a man's journal and being sarcastic?
No that was it.
Are you sure what you saw was dry weight? If so then wet weight would have been close to 1500 gms. I don't think that is possable with a single 400w bulb in a 2 by 4 foot area. I got about 400 gm dry with a 1000w before in almost the same space.
Get'em girl,
Now the way your plants are growing, vertically like that, I suspect your harvest will be more then my last one.
Yea, I been buzy man. I try and get at least one update a week.
Integra21
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My White widow run was 273g off of 1 430w Son Agro. Its wasnt a high yield strain, so more is definitly possible. But if you read through the whole journal here, he purposly runs his nutrients low to avoid nutrient burns sice it is so easy to do with aero. Do you have an aero grow to compare, or or are you just running your mouth. He still had a great grow, and every strain yields different, so there is nothing wrong with his weight. All about quality, not quantity. I dont think he is trying to supply the whole city out of his cab, his setup is fully cabable of those numbers, just need a high yield strain with the right nutrient soup. Dont hop on peolples threads just to ridicule, not nessasary. Keep up the good work Cruzer, still watching with joy. Wonder what the weight will be this round with such a dense canopy.
Hi everyone,
I got some time to take a look at this grow today and this is what I came up with:
The sheet metal reflector I built really did disperse the light well. There is no need for any side lighting with a reflector that big. On the down side, the sheet metal seems to concentrate the reflection a bit too much creating "hot spots" (well, more like hot band of light cause its all the way across) in the canopy. It may work better with a 250w but i think the 400 is a bit much.
So, I looked at adjust-a-wing reflectors at a cost of about $200 then found 2 by 4 foot sheets of the same aluminum sold in sets of 4 for $150 shipped to my door. I ordered a set last night. I figure I will make a reflector out of that for each cab and use the rest on the walls. Heres a link
The other thing is the temps.
The res chiller I made works great in the heat of the summer but no need to run in the cooler months. I dont know, I was thinking I would be able to use the heat off the evaporator coils to warm the cab in the cooler months but if I ran it I would freeze the res. Duh.
Oh well, Im lookin at one of those nano chiller/heaters that will maintain a constant temp. heres a link Aqua Euro CL-85
I think that will do the trick now I just have to talk myself into the $180 expense... It sure would be eaiser to maintain the res and I could use that cut out in the shelf for a daisy cloner. hum.
Anyway I need a seedling heat mat for under the floro grow. they get too cold in December and January. Temps been: low 40's to 50's Highs 70's too much of a swing, I got purple stems and stunted growth.
So in a week or so I will get started with the reflector. If I can do it without dropping the dam thing on the plants. Maybe I will wait till I chop.
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I got some time to take a look at this grow today and this is what I came up with:
The sheet metal reflector I built really did disperse the light well. There is no need for any side lighting with a reflector that big. On the down side, the sheet metal seems to concentrate the reflection a bit too much creating "hot spots" (well, more like hot band of light cause its all the way across) in the canopy. It may work better with a 250w but i think the 400 is a bit much.
So, I looked at adjust-a-wing reflectors at a cost of about $200 then found 2 by 4 foot sheets of the same aluminum sold in sets of 4 for $150 shipped to my door. I ordered a set last night. I figure I will make a reflector out of that for each cab and use the rest on the walls. Heres a link
The other thing is the temps.
The res chiller I made works great in the heat of the summer but no need to run in the cooler months. I dont know, I was thinking I would be able to use the heat off the evaporator coils to warm the cab in the cooler months but if I ran it I would freeze the res. Duh.
Oh well, Im lookin at one of those nano chiller/heaters that will maintain a constant temp. heres a link Aqua Euro CL-85
I think that will do the trick now I just have to talk myself into the $180 expense... It sure would be eaiser to maintain the res and I could use that cut out in the shelf for a daisy cloner. hum.
Anyway I need a seedling heat mat for under the floro grow. they get too cold in December and January. Temps been: low 40's to 50's Highs 70's too much of a swing, I got purple stems and stunted growth.
So in a week or so I will get started with the reflector. If I can do it without dropping the dam thing on the plants. Maybe I will wait till I chop.
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Dude, with all the shit ya got goin on, We dont need no stinking updates.
Na man I posted pics of a harvest. easy to think it was done.
Thats right man!
I remember reading your journal, it was like 8 or 9oz. I remember thinking that was a lot. So that must have weighed out close to 1000 gm wet then. My bad. I figured about 1/2 gram a watt was about it in a cabinet grow.
Oh, and yes, I do care more about the quality then the quanity. I could go balls out with this green crack a couple grows then just shut down for six months but I like growing. I like trying different strains and it takes a couple times before I get it right.
From what I see, I like the trichome production as well as the Ceramic Metal Halide and I think there is going to be more weight this round. The reflector burnt most of the upper leaf's edges and dryed them out but the bud looks good directly under the bulb.
Hi Miztaj, Yea man, steady as she goes is right. I wasnt counting on dealing with this mildew. I have had to spray them almost every day because I cant get to it all and it keeps comming back.
Im glad to hear you thought Mesa a fun place to live. My nephew got busted here in cali on a small possession charge years ago and freaked out, he moved there and I havent seen him in 6 or 7 years now. His dad is a loser and his mom (my sister) passed when he was in his teens. We became very close. He has a son thats 3yrs old I never met so I think its about time I go visit.
8deez8
Active Member
I was not being sarcastic. Sorry folks but due to the nature of this "industry", if you will, the only way to find out things is to ask, and I am considering switching to Ceramic Metal Halide. I don't think I could've been any more courteous with an honest inquiry.
.415 g/watt in one of the highest yielding methods known (in the most professionally built and run set up I've seen, I might add) will merit inquisition and clarification. There is a lot at stake with this stuff folks so get the pineapples out of your anuses when someone comes with objective inquiries as courteously as they know how.
Thanks again cruzer for answering and the documentation!
.415 g/watt in one of the highest yielding methods known (in the most professionally built and run set up I've seen, I might add) will merit inquisition and clarification. There is a lot at stake with this stuff folks so get the pineapples out of your anuses when someone comes with objective inquiries as courteously as they know how.
Thanks again cruzer for answering and the documentation!
miztaj
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I was pretty young when i lived in AZ( teen years ). I have to admit though some of the best smoke i've had was when i lived out there, Friends dad grew out on his ranch. So i take it he's stayed out of trouble after moving. Enjoy your trip.
Hey cutman the ak x lr2 suprized you huh? It did me. The white dwarf was a hit in my book to.
Hey cutman the ak x lr2 suprized you huh? It did me. The white dwarf was a hit in my book to.
roomsupervisor
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IF the lid on your flower container and the lid on your veg container were the same size, you could just swap lids without pulling the plants out.
No harm no foul man. I share these journals to get input from you people. Comments or questions, dosent matter to me. However just like you are intitiled to your opinion, they are intitled to theres.
Pineapple? ouch. You do have a vivid imagination. lol
Cool man, six footer huh? Is that for the autos?
OK its been nine weeks now. Last grow I flushed at this point...
This journal was to compare Ceramic metal halide to a HPS. Problem is I messed up and built that reflector. It really does reflect well. maybe too good as I have stressed the plants. These girls have that dam mildew and dont feel it is a fair comparison.
So what now, I think these girls would pack on more weight if I went another week or so. I know, I am getting greedy here but last time they had a nice growth spirt in the end and these are just not doing it yet. Maybe the reflector, the mildew, I just dont know. Sorry I messed this up. The way to do it right would be to grow under both lights in different cabs, at the same time, using the same res and the same clones.
With that being said, I will still post my opinion of the different bulbs after harvest but keep in mind conditions were not the same.
This journal was to compare Ceramic metal halide to a HPS. Problem is I messed up and built that reflector. It really does reflect well. maybe too good as I have stressed the plants. These girls have that dam mildew and dont feel it is a fair comparison.
So what now, I think these girls would pack on more weight if I went another week or so. I know, I am getting greedy here but last time they had a nice growth spirt in the end and these are just not doing it yet. Maybe the reflector, the mildew, I just dont know. Sorry I messed this up. The way to do it right would be to grow under both lights in different cabs, at the same time, using the same res and the same clones.
With that being said, I will still post my opinion of the different bulbs after harvest but keep in mind conditions were not the same.
cutman
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Im running both at the same time, mh/ hps on the clones of that hawaiian. Now they have a new bulb, that is both mh-hps in one but you can only get it in 1000 watts right now. I thought about it but 240 bills pluse a new ballast, not to mention the more wattage, heat and energy bill. opt to go with another 400 watt and ballast. Going to put the autos under the two light there. I was thinking maybe just trying the light above were baby are. That light is a high lumenis output grow light. It has four 5t lights in it two T65s and two T45 in it what you think? versa the 400 watter. I can put the autos up there and still have room for my dome. just dont know. will start them up there for sure. this is the plan on autos im going to start eight every week un till first harvets, then will see from there were to go with this.Buy the end of feb.. it should start rolling out.