Best way to sex a plant?

seasmoke

seasmoke

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Thats right Hobbes, I use 16oz beer cups and promix for cloning and seedlings too. I do have good success this way. Cloning is the way to go with known phenoms.
I just want to be doing the best possible way to sex them out....So far, with seeds I got from Nirvana(10 per pack), the results:

White Widow- 8 females- 6 are doing great, filled out nicely and are getting tall. The other two are slow
Aurora Indica- 4 females- All of which are slow to start, but they are gaining ground with extra vegg time.
White Rhino - 6 females- These seem to be growing alot like the WWs, quite strong.
Burmese(reefermans?)- 3 females- These little shits haven't grown much at all. they are the same age as the WR, but the WR have tripled in size compared to each other(this is where I think cloning it instead of sexing it would have benefited it), they are about 6-8 inches tall and getting shorter each day it seems.

I still have AK-48, Snow White, Hash plant and Northern Lights to go, and I feel as though i'm not getting the best results possible....So I will try the Vegging of the seed and take a cutting and see how that goes.
 
seasmoke

seasmoke

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OK, I'm doing it. But just to be sure...

I can take the cutting, put it directly under 12-12 light, even though they have NOT rooted? I thought that when plants go under 12-12 they stop root production and go into flower.

I do not want to cover a branch to sex them, I want to top for 4 colas, cloning the top for sex.
 
Uncle Ben

Uncle Ben

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seasmoke said:
OK, I'm doing it. But just to be sure...

I can take the cutting, put it directly under 12-12 light, even though they have NOT rooted? I thought that when plants go under 12-12 they stop root production and go into flower.

I do not want to cover a branch to sex them, I want to top for 4 colas, cloning the top for sex.
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Clones should go under long days. I gave you a tweak of how to sex a plant so that you don't have to subject the entire plant to 12/12.
 
seasmoke

seasmoke

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Uncle Ben said:
Clones should go under long days. I gave you a tweak of how to sex a plant so that you don't have to subject the entire plant to 12/12.
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Yes Uncle Ben, I understand what you mean. But I want to top for 4 colas, per your method,and vegg them for 8 weeks. I'm not going to subject the whole plant. At this time I would like to clone the top piece and then sex it.

These guys are saying, and it's in Cervantes bible,pg.54-55, that they can be sexed straight from cutting. The bible says in diagram 3 -Give 12 hours light "while" rooting.

This does seem odd to me, I would think they would need some time to root first.
 
Uncle Ben

Uncle Ben

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seasmoke said:
Yes Uncle Ben, I understand what you mean. But I want to top for 4 colas, per your method,and vegg them for 8 weeks. I'm not going to subject the whole plant. At this time I would like to clone the top piece and then sex it.

These guys are saying, and it's in Cervantes bible,pg.54-55, that they can be sexed straight from cutting. The bible says in diagram 3 -Give 12 hours light "while" rooting.

This does seem odd to me, I would think they would need some time to root first.
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Jorge and I are friends, but friends also correct each other when the time is right. Understand that alot of what Jorge put together in his Bible was gleaned from others, mainly those long standing members who used to post at a huge but now defunct forum called Overgrow or OG, myself included. That being said, there are alot of inaccuracies posted in his book as opposed to someone like Mel Frank. As an example, turn to pages 69-70 and see what he said about my Spin-Out drill and his explanation of how the paint works. He got it all wrong, and I wrote him about it after the fact. (Copper hydroxide paints do not turn the roots up.) Having said that, Jorge has one of the best chapters on lighting of ANY cannabis book I've seen. For a noob, it's worth buying it just for that chapter.

If you are a noob and you want a shortcut to success, and you're the type who's not inclined to pick up a book on indoor gardening or plant culture (which you should be doing) then the 2 "must have" books I'd recommend are Jorge's Bible and Mel Frank's 'MJ Growers Insiders Guide'.

So, do you go 12/12 with your cutting and hope you get rooting AND a sexual response, or do you go 20/4, root the cutting, and when it has about 6 nodes, sex. I'd recommend the latter.

Tio
 
seasmoke

seasmoke

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Uncle Ben said:
Jorge and I are friends, but friends also correct each other when the time is right. Understand that alot of what Jorge put together in his Bible was gleaned from others, mainly those long standing members who used to post at a huge but now defunct forum called Overgrow or OG, myself included. That being said, there are alot of inaccuracies posted in his book as opposed to someone like Mel Frank. As an example, turn to pages 69-70 and see what he said about my Spin-Out drill and his explanation of how the paint works. He got it all wrong, and I wrote him about it after the fact. (Copper hydroxide paints do not turn the roots up.) Having said that, Jorge has one of the best chapters on lighting of ANY cannabis book I've seen. For a noob, it's worth buying it just for that chapter.

If you are a noob and you want a shortcut to success, and you're the type who's not inclined to pick up a book on indoor gardening or plant culture (which you should be doing) then the 2 "must have" books I'd recommend are Jorge's Bible and Mel Frank's 'MJ Growers Insiders Guide'.

So, do you go 12/12 with your cutting and hope you get rooting AND a sexual response, or do you go 20/4, root the cutting, and when it has about 6 nodes, sex. I'd recommend the latter.

Tio
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Again thank you UB.:-P I'll do just what you said....you haven't steered me wrong yet, my crop is flourishing because of you,the bible, and RIU in general. I'm following your seedling method to a "T", and want to do the same with topping.


I'll get those books. You can't put a pricetag on knowledge, and I did see some inaccuracies through-out his book...one reason I turned here for advice
 
Uncle Ben

Uncle Ben

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seasmoke said:
Again thank you UB.:-P I'll do just what you said....you haven't steered me wrong yet, my crop is flourishing because of you,the bible, and RIU in general. I'm following your seedling method to a "T", and want to do the same with topping.


I'll get those books. You can't put a pricetag on knowledge, and I did see some inaccuracies through-out his book...one reason I turned here for advice
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Sounds good, and good luck!
 
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