doc111
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But if the man had lived his entire life in the box how would he know what he is missing if he'd never been taught of the outside world?
Perception is reality
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eza82
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95% of the population work for the other 5%
eza82
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a "MAN" - .....But if the man had lived his entire life in the box how would he know what he is missing if he'd never been taught of the outside world?
Woodstock.Hippie
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"In a way to see more clealy what is real, we really have to take away those thoughts of what is reality or not and let our experience decide."
Not really.
Not really.
eza82
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thats just my humble opinion. Reality and real are two different conversations
CrackerJax
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5% create jobs for the other 95%.
doc111
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I guess I don't understand your point. Real is part of Reality.thats just my humble opinion. Reality and real are two different conversations
CrackerJax
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Yes, Doc is quite correct.
jeffchr
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wrong forum
but I know you can't help it
growwwww
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Sounds like the whole Marxism idea, The small few on the top who own and exploit everyone underneath.
CrackerJax
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doc111
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Good point. Similar to when one looks at the stars in the night sky. We don't see the stars as they are but as they were hundreds, thousands, millions, and even billions of years ago.
growwwww
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No its not similar, we feel these things in miliseconds and its hardly a universal lag...people vary in there senses and what not, some people are more attuned and receptors and CNSs work quicker and whatever.Good point. Similar to when one looks at the stars in the night sky. We don't see the stars as they are but as they were hundreds, thousands, millions, and even billions of years ago.
But with your example the star, we all see it at its same period...
doc111
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The light travels at 186,000 miles/second. How fast sensory input travels once the photons hit the rods and cones in your eyes, for example, is a bit of a complicated definition I'm afraid but the principle is pretty much the same. We are just talking much, much larger time scales with stars. So are you saying that the perception is the reality with stars? Now I'm really confused.................
CrackerJax
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He's saying that no matter how far the light travels, everyone on the same timeline (alive and here now) receives the light at the same time.... there is no lag in perception.
The perception difference lies in the comprehension of the star itself.
Take a person from Rome circa 100BCE, and ask him what a star is. U'll receive a foreign answer.
The perception difference lies in the comprehension of the star itself.
Take a person from Rome circa 100BCE, and ask him what a star is. U'll receive a foreign answer.
doc111
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I think my example still illustrated a point when dealing with perception and reality. We collectively may perceive the star at the same moment in its sequence but that star may not even exist anymore. Yet to us it's almost palpable. I mean, there it is in the sky. It must still be fusing Hydrogen atoms right?
growwwww
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Yeah, haha i get the jist of your example its all good in that sense but when you actually think about it its not that similar thats allThe light travels at 186,000 miles/second. How fast sensory input travels once the photons hit the rods and cones in your eyes, for example, is a bit of a complicated definition I'm afraid but the principle is pretty much the same. We are just talking much, much larger time scales with stars. So are you saying that the perception is the reality with stars? Now I'm really confused.................
doc111
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I think light travelling and electrical impulses travelling is very similar. They are both energy, they both are very, very fast. Now you are correct that it's not that similar in the sense that sensory stimuli use a mix of chemical transmission along with electrical energy. Light is just energy. I see your point.Yeah, haha i get the jist of your example its all good in that sense but when you actually think about it its not that similar thats all
growwwww
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Yes over all, the idea of the lapse, for x to get to y is the same. But in the case of the the star, the starts light energy is exposed to us all at the same time. Whereas with the sensory part, some people are more finetuned to things and its a varying thing.I think light travelling and electrical impulses travelling is very similar. They are both energy, they both are very, very fast. Now you are correct that it's not that similar in the sense that sensory stimuli use a mix of chemical transmission along with electrical energy. Light is just energy. I see your point.
doc111
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Which affects our individual perception of things.