Government vs Private Sector ...

threatlevelorange

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We won't be fooled again.
Yea I've heard that one before. Until a liberal democrat takes office...and they have such a nice smile and charisma to boot. Oh they make promises of socialized health care "making it" without violating freedom. Meh. Save it for cuba and North Korea, those are the last countries you've got left on your side, Marx.
 

iblazethatkush

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Haha! Great argument! Maby you should be Kucinich's debate advisor. He's having trouble....well competing with a bunch of "moderates".....like John Edwards and Barak Osama, who can blame him? :-|

At any rate, this is the symbol of defeat. Suck a dick, you watch too much fox news. It basically means your tank is empty. Its a shame. I was running a marathon and you gassed out at mile 4. Oh well, maby I need to take a trip to more politically knowledgeable groups. ViRedd, maby WE should be debating...these kkKarl Marx fans can't hang worth a bit.

Fox News may be biased, but their information is true. Anyways, this isn't about Fox News. This is time for me to call out "gotcha bitch!" and I only pumped a few jabs, meh. Those that supported Karl Marx in this thread are no longer worthy to debate with me. I'm out...peace!
There's plenty of stuff I could argue with you about. But I came to the realization the other day that it's not worth it. I'm not going to change anybodys opinion. Even if I provide evidence like the link above, you will still deny and argue with me. So what's the point? I guess this is why they say not to talk religion and politics. Oh well, I'm not going to waste my time anymore. For the rest of you gentleman, it's been nice debating you. Threatlevelorange, I stand by my original post: SUCK A DICK.
 

ViRedd

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No one told you to chime in while you were high...you can't even hang with the big boys sober....bad form.

Of course your not looking for proof. That might make too much sense. Vi, I say drop this guy and make your mark on someone with some work ethic.


HAHAHAHOHOHOHEHEHE~LOL~,are you trying to be factitious, or nasty. You must be one son-of-a-bitch of a boss. Only an asshole boss would utter a phrase like that, If you're not a boss-bitch then pardon me, I've misjudged you and you know what they say, "judge not lest ye be judged." You can drop me anytime you like, I have the retired ethic, some people don't know when to quit, look at VI, 70 years young and still working his huevos off. Quit for Gods sake and start enjoying the fact that you have to be nowhere at no-time for no-one, Yeehaah.
Why in the world would I want to quit doing something that I LOVE? I know this is a foreign concept for you Med, but there are those, like me, who never set out to settle for mediocrity ... or a meager pension. Every job I've ever had as an adult, I've loved ... especially the profession I'm in now. I get up at five AM every day, six days a week ... and work my ass off at something I love to do. You have no idea how my efforts have created wealth for others, Med. You have no idea how many people my efforts have pulled out of the desperation of being dead-end renters and turned into, not only home owners, but landlords as well. Like I've said here in the forum many times, success in life comes when you help other people get what THEY want. But, of course, you're a union man and think management is nothing more than a collection of DorkWads, so that concept is way beyond you. Nuff said on that subject.

Vi
 

medicineman

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Why in the world would I want to quit doing something that I LOVE? I know this is a foreign concept for you Med, but there are those, like me, who never set out to settle for mediocrity ... or a meager pension. Every job I've ever had as an adult, I've loved ... especially the profession I'm in now. I get up at five AM every day, six days a week ... and work my ass off at something I love to do. You have no idea how my efforts have created wealth for others, Med. You have no idea how many people my efforts have pulled out of the desperation of being dead-end renters and turned into, not only home owners, but landlords as well. Like I've said here in the forum many times, success in life comes when you help other people get what THEY want. But, of course, you're a union man and think management is nothing more than a collection of DorkWads, so that concept is way beyond you. Nuff said on that subject.

Vi
Hey, work till you drop. I never had a job that didn't require some modicum of physical labor and my body tells me every day. Run an 8lb sledghammer setting concrete forms for 10 years and see what it does to your joints, how many million blows did I jar my elbow, wrist, shoulder with? My body thanks me for retiring it from the onslaught of physical labor. If I'd of had an office job, maybe I would see it differently, but believe me when I say, I enjoy not having to be anywhere at anytime for anybody. Money is a nice incentive VI, but how much is enough. If you really think you are helping people and you enjoy it, then Kudos.
 

ViRedd

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Hey, work till you drop. I never had a job that didn't require some modicum of physical labor and my body tells me every day. Run an 8lb sledghammer setting concrete forms for 10 years and see what it does to your joints, how many million blows did I jar my elbow, wrist, shoulder with? My body thanks me for retiring it from the onslaught of physical labor. If I'd of had an office job, maybe I would see it differently, but believe me when I say, I enjoy not having to be anywhere at anytime for anybody. Money is a nice incentive VI, but how much is enough. If you really think you are helping people and you enjoy it, then Kudos.
See, you still don't get it Med. My work is play. And, its not about the money either. Its about becoming the best you can be at what you enjoy. Some play the piano. Some work on Ferraris. Me? ... I sell. :)

Vi
 

medicineman

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Run an 8lb sledghammer setting concrete forms for 10 years and see what it does to your joints,

Again I say, some work and some play. I had to work so retirement is good to me!
 

ViRedd

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Run an 8lb sledghammer setting concrete forms for 10 years and see what it does to your joints,

Again I say, some work and some play. I had to work so retirement is good to me!
~lol~ ... I'm no stranger to hard, ball busting physical work, Med. When we meet up your way I'll tell you all about it.

On the retirement ... I just can't picture myself hanging out with a bunch of old guys down at the Senior Center. Hmmm ... I know a guy about our age who goes to the Elks Club every day for the two-dollar well drinks. He's a total souse. Nah, I'll take selling for my kicks. ~lol~

Vi

 

threatlevelorange

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There's plenty of stuff I could argue with you about. Threatlevelorange, I stand by my original post: SUCK A DICK.
First of all, interesting article. I figured if I pushed hard enough someone would show up with a pair.

Secondly, your being excessively rude. You writing suck a dick on this forum does nothing for anyone including yourself. I mean at least make it political if your going to insult me. That way, you at least don't look like your totally just flying off the handle. I think a moderator would not be out of line to warn you about such statements. Either way, keep it civil. You would never say such a thing to my face, so don't act like this forum is any different.

Lastly, I think that article contains one of the key reasons as to why the war is so criticized. I would take a quote from the article to basically sum it all up:

"Both the French intelligence service and the CIA paid Sabri hundreds of thousands of dollars (at least $200,000 in the case of the CIA) to give them documents on Saddam's WMD programs. "The information detailed that Saddam may have wished to have a program, that his engineers had told him they could build a nuclear weapon within two years if they had fissile material, which they didn't, and that they had no chemical or biological weapons," one of the former CIA officers told me."

I don't know what salon.com is...they certainly are not reputable. Do you know where this information came from? Anyways, I believe it. Seriously. I can totally digest the idea that Bush had a hidden agenda. that I am not going to dispute. The problem lies with the fact that there WAS evidence to the contrary....and if you hear that your family MIGHT be in danger, even thought they MIGHT not be.... well you better know for sure. You can bet that we as a country are not taking chances, especially right after 911. I mean do you really think people in the senate would have not voted to go to war with a terrorist state, right after a massive terrorist attack? Bush didn't do it alone and we supported him on the premise that we aren't going to listen to the French or whoever when its US...the US... that has its neck lied on the guillotine. Today, I bet we would be more careful, though. So in hindsight your totally correct in saying it was an ill-constructed war. At the time, though, we weren't going to wait for another plane to crash in order to do something.
 

threatlevelorange

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Run an 8lb sledghammer setting concrete forms for 10 years and see what it does to your joints,
I was referring to work ethic in the sense that some people were too lazy (or "high" as they like to put it as if there is a difference) to back up what they said with evidence. It had to do with research and validating one's beliefs with evidence, not how much physical labor one has committed to in their life. Just thought I'd clear that up before we get into aanother topic that ends with suck a dick.
 

medicineman

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I was referring to work ethic in the sense that some people were too lazy (or "high" as they like to put it as if there is a difference) to back up what they said with evidence. It had to do with research and validating one's beliefs with evidence, not how much physical labor one has committed to in their life. Just thought I'd clear that up before we get into aanother topic that ends with suck a dick.
Hey, was I talkin to you, go duck sick. I've figured you for a desk jockey, Am I wrong. Your idea of work is shuffling papers and screwing someone out of their money, correct. Feel free to correct me if I'm wrong. Sometimes my clairvoyance gets tangled up with reality........
 

ViRedd

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Hey, was I talkin to you, go duck sick. I've figured you for a desk jockey, Am I wrong. Your idea of work is shuffling papers and screwing someone out of their money, correct. Feel free to correct me if I'm wrong. Sometimes my clairvoyance gets tangled up with reality........
*lol* ... Med, you are fuckin' incorrigible! So, if a person doesn't do hard physical work, and does office work instead, that means he/she is "screwing someone out of money?" You are so typical of the union yokels I've met. Hey, did you ever do any "shovel leaning" for CalTrans in California? ~lol~

Vi

 

medicineman

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*lol* ... Med, you are fuckin' incorrigible! So, if a person doesn't do hard physical work, and does office work instead, that means he/she is "screwing someone out of money?" You are so typical of the union yokels I've met. Hey, did you ever do any "shovel leaning" for CalTrans in California? ~lol~

Vi
Hell no, I worked for small private contractors that would fire you in a heartbeat if you fucked off.
 

threatlevelorange

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Hey, was I talkin to you, go duck sick. I've figured you for a desk jockey, Am I wrong. Your idea of work is shuffling papers and screwing someone out of their money, correct. Feel free to correct me if I'm wrong. Sometimes my clairvoyance gets tangled up with reality........
Well I ignored you the first time when you said I'm some mean boss. Vi, you gotta get this guy an anti-commie pill. He correlates those that work with their brains with those that don't work at all. People with signs, is you will. Except that is work, because it involves standing for hours.
MARXISM: NO TAX WRITE OFFS...EVER

I will give you three choices:

1.) Commercial Dishwasher
2.) Licensed Insurance Consultant
3.) Professional Athlete

Guess correctly and your "clairvoyance" will be known.
 

medicineman

New Member
Well I ignored you the first time when you said I'm some mean boss. Vi, you gotta get this guy an anti-commie pill. He correlates those that work with their brains with those that don't work at all. People with signs, is you will. Except that is work, because it involves standing for hours.
MARXISM: NO TAX WRITE OFFS...EVER

I will give you three choices:

1.) Commercial Dishwasher
2.) Licensed Insurance Consultant
3.) Professional Athlete

Guess correctly and your "clairvoyance" will be known.
Thats right, I forgot, a desk jockey that fucks people out of their money on the biggest scam of all, Insurance. You try and sell people insurance in the hopes they will never collect, like three card monte, or what's under shell #1. Insurance salesmen are the worst kind of scumbags, selling intangibles is a scam. I'll bet not one in a thousand ever collect as much as they invest. You could put your money in a money market account and beat the payoff every time. And when you go to collect, the adjusters try and find every excuse under the sun to cheap out or flat refuse to pay. Scam is the word. Why don't you suck it up and get a respectable job, oh thats right, you are a true scumbag.
 

ViRedd

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Thats right, I forgot, a desk jockey that fucks people out of their money on the biggest scam of all, Insurance. You try and sell people insurance in the hopes they will never collect, like three card monte, or what's under shell #1. Insurance salesmen are the worst kind of scumbags, selling intangibles is a scam. I'll bet not one in a thousand ever collect as much as they invest. You could put your money in a money market account and beat the payoff every time. And when you go to collect, the adjusters try and find every excuse under the sun to cheap out or flat refuse to pay. Scam is the word. Why don't you suck it up and get a respectable job, oh thats right, you are a true scumbag.
And yet, you applaud a bankrupt government system that forces payment, at the point of a gun if necessary, into a "retirement" program that, if one lives long enough, pays a 1% return on one's investment, and if one dies, the money paid into the Ponzi scheme cannot be willed or inherited. Me thinks you, like all socialists that have come before you are frauds, Med.

Vi
 

silk

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Same could be said about Social Security.

Professional Athlete. Close but no cigar. Don't go on about how we get paid too much, either. If tat were the case, everyone would be doing it.
Just for the record, I thought the answer was obvious. Good job dropping Medman. When he's not bitter and ranting he's an asset... I suggest taking him with a grain of salt or taking a grain of salt and throwing him over your shoulder. :mrgreen:
 

threatlevelorange

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Just for the record, I thought the answer was obvious. Good job dropping Medman. When he's not bitter and ranting he's an asset... I suggest taking him with a grain of salt or taking a grain of salt and throwing him over your shoulder. :mrgreen:

Hahaha! Thanks, Hoff.

Yea the answer was obvious, I mean I only threw out so many sports cliches, quotes and even a picture. I knew he'd bite at insurance agent though. I premeditated the "insurance is a scam...go stalin" speech, too. It seems I'm getting quite good at this cuz I even thought we would tie in SS to finish the combo...er discussion.
 
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