doc111
Well-Known Member
I don't recall Dylan and Eric being in contact with radical muslim clerics or carrying around business cards which said SOA (stands for soldier of Allah).
Giuliani: No terror attacks in U.S. under Bush
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FlyLikeAnEagle
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Here's the facts
3000 killed in NY under Bush
0 killed under Obama
1. They wouldnt be trying to kill us if it were not for republican foreign policy.
2. Your chances of winning an oympic medal are better than of you dying in a terrorist attack yet people like you need medicated to stop the terrorist thoughts. Do ya see anything wrong with that? Do ya think that is normal?
CrackerJax
New Member
Rant on, but ur wrong. History has already decided who set up 9/11 and it wasn't Bush. yell all you want to, but the ink is already dry.
doc111
Well-Known Member
Dude, what the hell are you on? Who was the prez when the USS Cole was attacked? How about the 2 embassy bombings in Africa in '98? What about The first WTC bombing in '93? Hmmmm?
FlyLikeAnEagle
Well-Known Member
Considering there is not a person on the planet that used the term 9/11 more than giuliani I find it quite suspect. There is no bigger 9/11 whore than him and thats saying a lot considering the whole republican party has been riding that wave for over 9 years and counting.He said that he misspoke. He meant to say that there were no domestic terror attacks after 9/11 during the Bush admin. Case closed. Why this is even an issue is beyond me.
FlyLikeAnEagle
Well-Known Member
Dude, what the hell are you on? Who was the prez when the USS Cole was attacked? How about the 2 embassy bombings in Africa in '98? What about The first WTC bombing in '93? Hmmmm?
WTF does that have to do with anything? You just pulling crap out of your ass now?
doc111
Well-Known Member
Please dude! Are you fucking serious? Anything a conservative says (even though he explained himself) you just can't wait to flame him. This whole thing is a joke. Since you are so sure there was a motive why don't you tell us what it could've possibly been. Please enlighten us.
CrackerJax
New Member
Translation: He hasn't a clue.
rant on....
Now according to ur logic, Bush inherited nothing from Clinton. All Bush's fault right?
So, then to maintain ur logic, all influences or poilicies of Bush stopped when Obama took office.
Just so we're clear on how crazy ur logic is .. if it can even be called logic.
rant on....
Now according to ur logic, Bush inherited nothing from Clinton. All Bush's fault right?
So, then to maintain ur logic, all influences or poilicies of Bush stopped when Obama took office.
Just so we're clear on how crazy ur logic is .. if it can even be called logic.
The only people who say the Ft. Hood attack was a terriost attack are people who are trying use it against Obama. Just because someone is Islam does not mean they are a terrorist. People with out an agenda believe he did this attack because he did not believe in the war, was being forced back to the war.
No one is saying Bush set up 9/11. You have no real knowledge beyond your own scewered beliefs. You resort to complete lies or calling people idiots if they choose to see the truth. Not what Fox news tell them to believe.
doc111
Well-Known Member
What did I pull out of my ass? Are you telling me those things didn't happen? Or that they happened under someone other than Slick Willie's watch. You made a statement now back it up or admit it was wrong. And it has everything to do with the statement you made.
FlyLikeAnEagle
Well-Known Member
The amount of enlightening you need is beyond any man. Now go buy some duct tape because those terra ists are gonna getcha.Please dude! Are you fucking serious? Anything a conservative says (even though he explained himself) you just can't wait to flame him. This whole thing is a joke. Since you are so sure there was a motive why don't you tell us what it could've possibly been. Please enlighten us.
doc111
Well-Known Member
Keep dodgin' the issue. And sling all the insults at me you want. I am not 6 years old so it really doesn't bother me.
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PadawanBater
Guest
Anthrax attacks, DC sniper. Point was, Guiliani fucked up, he admitted it, and Cracker still defended him, solely because he's "conservative". I pointed it out because I've noticed it's become a trend lately, especially with him. That's stupid, why defend people if they're secretly trying to screw you, via spreading disinformation that they know they won't fact check? If a politician on the left, if Obama or Biden or anyone else said something stupid, I would not defend it, because that would be stupid. I'd point it out just the same as I would a politician on the right. These guys need to realize political affiliation is nothing more than an illusion designed specifically for this reason, to keep you rooting for your team, even when they're shooting in the wrong basket.
The ones that can't be reasoned with... Fuck em. If they're sitting there thinking there's no way for a peaceful agreement to be met and we have to convert to Islam or be killed then I wouldn't have any issue at all with fighting against them. But the reality is I believe there is a way to solve this problem without violence, even if it takes years. It's worth it to me. It starts with educating the Middle East, which currently is near impossible, especially in countries where Islamic law is enforced. Think about the United States and Europe and how many secular people reside there. Why is this? Because of education, because we have the freedom to learn whatever we want, without fear of persecution. Those in these countries don't. That's what we should be striving to provide at all costs. That is what will water the seed after democracy is planted. Get these people to realize what freedom is, how to achieve it and how to protect it. Dropping bombs on them and their families is so fucking backwards I can't even begin to explain it.
So let me get this straight... according to your logic, Bush totally inherited 9/11 because of all the fucked up policies during the Clinton administration... Then when Obama became president, the financial collapse was entirely his fault, the failure in Iraq and the stale mate in Afghanistan is his fault... All no thanks to W.
Certified CrackerJax logic.
doc111
Well-Known Member
The true motives for going to war are always questioned. It's never as simple as "Because they attacked us first!" Although in my book, that's the only justification needed. War is dirty business. Innocent people always get killed in any conflict. You wanna know what I'm doin' if we ever get invaded? Getting my family and me the hell out of the war zone! I don't care if we have to hitchhike, or fucking crawl, we're outta there! Collateral damage is always unfortunate and the propagandists on the other side will always try and make it appear that the innocent babies and women dying is what it's really about. It's not. We are in the situation (where nobody trusts the govt.) because of several mistakes the U.S. has made over the course of decades. This mistrust didn't happen overnight, it's been smoldering for a long time. That doesn't mean that everything is a conspiracy or that we are only after Iraqi oil, or Afghani poppies. These fucks have been poking and prodding at the great satan for decades. We've always turned a blind eye or done very little. Well, you can only poke someone so long before they get pissed.
Dragline
Well-Known Member
Even with his correction of AFTER 9/11, both him and you are still WRONG!!!!!!
If you are going to count Ft. Hood and the panty bomber then you better count Richard Reid the shoe bomber, the Anthrax attacks which killed 5 people, The El Al attack at LAX which killed 2 israelis, the army seargent Hasan Akbar who killed 2 officers in Kuwait. I would also bet money had the DC sniper incident happened under Obama you would blame that on him too.
jeffchr
Well-Known Member
this guy is great
i would hire him to run anything
great business man and very ethical
George W. Bush's Resume
George W. Bush (Dubya)
The White House
1600 Pennsylvania Ave., NW
Washington, D.C. 20500
Past Work Experience
• Ran for congress and lost.
• Produced a Hollywood slasher B movie.
• Bought an oil company, but couldn't find any oil in Texas; company went bankrupt shortly after I sold all my stock.
• Bought the Texas Rangers baseball team in a sweetheart deal that took land using taxpayer money. Biggest move: Traded Sammy Sosa to the Chicago White Sox.
• With father's help (and his name) was elected Governor of Texas.
Accomplishments in Previous Positions
• Changed pollution laws for power and oil companies and made Texas the most polluted state in the Union.
• Replaced Los Angeles with Houston as the most smog-ridden city in America. Cut taxes and bankrupted the Texas government to the tune of billions in borrowed money.
• Set record for most executions by any governor in American history.
• Became president after losing the popular vote by over 500,000 votes, with the help of my father's appointments to the Supreme Court.
Accomplishments As President
• Attacked and took over two countries.
• Spent the surplus and bankrupted the treasury.
• Shattered record for biggest annual deficit in history.
• Set economic record for most private bankruptcies filed in any 12-month period.
• Set all-time record for biggest drop in the history of the stock market.
• First president in decades to execute a federal prisoner.
• First president in U.S. history to enter office with a criminal record.
• First year in office set the all-time record for most days on vacation by any president in U.S. history.
• After taking the entire month of August off for vacation, presided over the worst security failure in U.S. history.
• Set the record for most campaign fundraising trips than any other president in U.S. history.
• In my first two years in office over 2 million Americans lost their job.
• Cut unemployment benefits for more out of work Americans than any president in U.S. history.
• Set the all-time record for most foreclosures in a 12-month period.
• Appointed more convicted criminals to administration positions than any president in U.S. history.
• Set the record for the least amount of press conferences than any president since the advent of television.
• Signed more laws and executive orders amending the Constitution than any president in U.S. history.
• Presided over the biggest energy crises in U.S. history and refused to intervene when corruption was revealed.
• Presided over the highest gasoline prices in U.S. history and refused to use the national reserves as past presidents have.
• Cut healthcare benefits for war veterans.
• Set the all-time record for most people worldwide to simultaneously take to the streets to protest me (15 million people), shattering the record for protest against any person in the history of mankind.
• Dissolved more international treaties than any president in U.S. history.
• My presidency is the most secretive and unaccountable of any in U.S. history.
• Members of my cabinet are the richest of any administration in U.S. history (the 'poorest' multimillionaire, Condoleezza Rice, has an Exxon oil tanker named after her).
• First president in U.S. history to have all 50 states of the Union simultaneously go bankrupt.
• Presided over the biggest corporate stock market fraud of any market in any country in the history of the world.
• First president in U.S. history to order a U.S. attack and military occupation of a sovereign nation.
• Created the largest government department bureaucracy in the history of the United States.
• Set the all-time record for biggest annual budget spending increases, more than any president in U.S. history.
• First president in U.S. history to have the United Nations remove the U.S. from the human rights commission.
• First president in U.S. history to have the United Nations remove the U.S. from the elections monitoring board.
• Removed more checks and balances, and have the least amount of congressional oversight than any presidential administration in U.S. history.
• Rendered the entire United Nations irrelevant.
• Withdrew from the World Court of Law.
• Refused to allow inspectors access to U.S. prisoners of war and by default no longer abide by the Geneva Conventions.
• First president in U.S. history to refuse United Nations election inspectors (during the 2002 U.S. elections).
• All-time U.S. (and world) record holder for most corporate campaign donations.
• My biggest lifetime campaign contributor presided over one of the largest corporate bankruptcy frauds in world history (Kenneth Lay, former CEO of Enron Corporation).
• Spent more money on polls and focus groups than any president in U.S. history.
• First president in U.S. history to unilaterally attack a sovereign nation against the will of the United Nations and the world community.
• First president to run and hide when the U.S. came under attack (and then lied saying the enemy had the code to Air Force 1)
• First U.S. president to establish a secret shadow government.
• Took the biggest world sympathy for the U.S. after 9/11, and in less than a year made the U.S. the most resented country in the world (possibly the biggest diplomatic failure in U.S. and world history).
• With a policy of 'disengagement' created the most hostile Israeli-Palestine relations in at least 30 years.
• Fist U.S. president in history to have a majority of the people of Europe (71%) view my presidency as the biggest threat to world peace and stability.
• First U.S. president in history to have the people of South Korea more threatened by the U.S. than their immediate neighbor, North Korea.
• Changed US policy to allow convicted criminals to be awarded government contracts.
• Set all-time record for number of administration appointees who violated U.S. law by not selling huge investments in corporations bidding for government contracts.
• Failed to fulfill my pledge to get Osama Bin Laden 'dead or alive.'
• Failed to capture the anthrax killer who tried to murder the leaders of our country at the United States Capital building. After 18 months I have no leads and zero suspects.
• In the 18 months following the 9/11 attacks I have successfully prevented any public investigation into the biggest security failure in the history of the United States.
• Removed more freedoms and civil liberties for Americans than any other president in U.S. history.
• In a little over two years created the most divided country in decades, possibly the most divided the U.S. has ever been since the Civil War.
• Entered office with the strongest economy in U.S. history and in less than two years turned every single economic category heading straight down.
Records and References
• At least one conviction for drunk driving in Maine (Texas driving record has been erased and is not available)
• AWOL from National Guard and deserted the military during a time of war.
• Refuse to take drug test or even answer any questions about drug use.
• All records of my tenure as governor of Texas have been spirited away to my father's library, sealed in secrecy and unavailable for public view.
• All records of any SEC investigations into my insider trading or bankrupt companies are sealed in secrecy and unavailable for public view.
• All minutes of meetings for any public corporation I served on the board are sealed in secrecy and unavailable for public view.
• Any records or minutes from meetings I (or my VP) attended regarding public energy policy are sealed in secrecy and unavailable for public review.
• For personal references please speak to my daddy or uncle James Baker (they can be reached at their offices of the Carlyle Group for war-profiteering.)
Source: Kelley Kramer
i would hire him to run anything
great business man and very ethical
George W. Bush's Resume
George W. Bush (Dubya)
The White House
1600 Pennsylvania Ave., NW
Washington, D.C. 20500
Past Work Experience
• Ran for congress and lost.
• Produced a Hollywood slasher B movie.
• Bought an oil company, but couldn't find any oil in Texas; company went bankrupt shortly after I sold all my stock.
• Bought the Texas Rangers baseball team in a sweetheart deal that took land using taxpayer money. Biggest move: Traded Sammy Sosa to the Chicago White Sox.
• With father's help (and his name) was elected Governor of Texas.
Accomplishments in Previous Positions
• Changed pollution laws for power and oil companies and made Texas the most polluted state in the Union.
• Replaced Los Angeles with Houston as the most smog-ridden city in America. Cut taxes and bankrupted the Texas government to the tune of billions in borrowed money.
• Set record for most executions by any governor in American history.
• Became president after losing the popular vote by over 500,000 votes, with the help of my father's appointments to the Supreme Court.
Accomplishments As President
• Attacked and took over two countries.
• Spent the surplus and bankrupted the treasury.
• Shattered record for biggest annual deficit in history.
• Set economic record for most private bankruptcies filed in any 12-month period.
• Set all-time record for biggest drop in the history of the stock market.
• First president in decades to execute a federal prisoner.
• First president in U.S. history to enter office with a criminal record.
• First year in office set the all-time record for most days on vacation by any president in U.S. history.
• After taking the entire month of August off for vacation, presided over the worst security failure in U.S. history.
• Set the record for most campaign fundraising trips than any other president in U.S. history.
• In my first two years in office over 2 million Americans lost their job.
• Cut unemployment benefits for more out of work Americans than any president in U.S. history.
• Set the all-time record for most foreclosures in a 12-month period.
• Appointed more convicted criminals to administration positions than any president in U.S. history.
• Set the record for the least amount of press conferences than any president since the advent of television.
• Signed more laws and executive orders amending the Constitution than any president in U.S. history.
• Presided over the biggest energy crises in U.S. history and refused to intervene when corruption was revealed.
• Presided over the highest gasoline prices in U.S. history and refused to use the national reserves as past presidents have.
• Cut healthcare benefits for war veterans.
• Set the all-time record for most people worldwide to simultaneously take to the streets to protest me (15 million people), shattering the record for protest against any person in the history of mankind.
• Dissolved more international treaties than any president in U.S. history.
• My presidency is the most secretive and unaccountable of any in U.S. history.
• Members of my cabinet are the richest of any administration in U.S. history (the 'poorest' multimillionaire, Condoleezza Rice, has an Exxon oil tanker named after her).
• First president in U.S. history to have all 50 states of the Union simultaneously go bankrupt.
• Presided over the biggest corporate stock market fraud of any market in any country in the history of the world.
• First president in U.S. history to order a U.S. attack and military occupation of a sovereign nation.
• Created the largest government department bureaucracy in the history of the United States.
• Set the all-time record for biggest annual budget spending increases, more than any president in U.S. history.
• First president in U.S. history to have the United Nations remove the U.S. from the human rights commission.
• First president in U.S. history to have the United Nations remove the U.S. from the elections monitoring board.
• Removed more checks and balances, and have the least amount of congressional oversight than any presidential administration in U.S. history.
• Rendered the entire United Nations irrelevant.
• Withdrew from the World Court of Law.
• Refused to allow inspectors access to U.S. prisoners of war and by default no longer abide by the Geneva Conventions.
• First president in U.S. history to refuse United Nations election inspectors (during the 2002 U.S. elections).
• All-time U.S. (and world) record holder for most corporate campaign donations.
• My biggest lifetime campaign contributor presided over one of the largest corporate bankruptcy frauds in world history (Kenneth Lay, former CEO of Enron Corporation).
• Spent more money on polls and focus groups than any president in U.S. history.
• First president in U.S. history to unilaterally attack a sovereign nation against the will of the United Nations and the world community.
• First president to run and hide when the U.S. came under attack (and then lied saying the enemy had the code to Air Force 1)
• First U.S. president to establish a secret shadow government.
• Took the biggest world sympathy for the U.S. after 9/11, and in less than a year made the U.S. the most resented country in the world (possibly the biggest diplomatic failure in U.S. and world history).
• With a policy of 'disengagement' created the most hostile Israeli-Palestine relations in at least 30 years.
• Fist U.S. president in history to have a majority of the people of Europe (71%) view my presidency as the biggest threat to world peace and stability.
• First U.S. president in history to have the people of South Korea more threatened by the U.S. than their immediate neighbor, North Korea.
• Changed US policy to allow convicted criminals to be awarded government contracts.
• Set all-time record for number of administration appointees who violated U.S. law by not selling huge investments in corporations bidding for government contracts.
• Failed to fulfill my pledge to get Osama Bin Laden 'dead or alive.'
• Failed to capture the anthrax killer who tried to murder the leaders of our country at the United States Capital building. After 18 months I have no leads and zero suspects.
• In the 18 months following the 9/11 attacks I have successfully prevented any public investigation into the biggest security failure in the history of the United States.
• Removed more freedoms and civil liberties for Americans than any other president in U.S. history.
• In a little over two years created the most divided country in decades, possibly the most divided the U.S. has ever been since the Civil War.
• Entered office with the strongest economy in U.S. history and in less than two years turned every single economic category heading straight down.
Records and References
• At least one conviction for drunk driving in Maine (Texas driving record has been erased and is not available)
• AWOL from National Guard and deserted the military during a time of war.
• Refuse to take drug test or even answer any questions about drug use.
• All records of my tenure as governor of Texas have been spirited away to my father's library, sealed in secrecy and unavailable for public view.
• All records of any SEC investigations into my insider trading or bankrupt companies are sealed in secrecy and unavailable for public view.
• All minutes of meetings for any public corporation I served on the board are sealed in secrecy and unavailable for public view.
• Any records or minutes from meetings I (or my VP) attended regarding public energy policy are sealed in secrecy and unavailable for public review.
• For personal references please speak to my daddy or uncle James Baker (they can be reached at their offices of the Carlyle Group for war-profiteering.)
Source: Kelley Kramer
BadDog40
Well-Known Member
Small wiener syndrome?
This is what it's about.
doc111
Well-Known Member
I
Illegal Smile
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The more anyone tries to claim Obama has been strong on national security the more the collective eyes of America roll in disgust.