SUPERthrive or Superjive?

[monkz]

I appreciate that you've dont tests on various plants but I think it would have been of more use if you had tried it on mj plants.
In my most recent grow I used superthrive (never had before) and you could see that the plants loved it, they seemed more vigorous during their veg growth.
Not to discredit your findings at all UB because i regularly follow your posts - infact your post influenced me to top on my 1st grow and iv done it many more times since the results were great.
However, superthrive convinces me.
It's good for root growth as you said, and because of this my young plants shot up and out when I used it.

Monkz

 

[DaveCoulier]

I love super thrive I always use it when cloning.
I had a feeling this stuff made my cuttings root out faster and now there is proof.
Great post UB

Do you only use superthrive for cloning, or do you use a cloning gel/powder as well?

I appreciate that you've dont tests on various plants but I think it would have been of more use if you had tried it on mj plants.
In my most recent grow I used superthrive (never had before) and you could see that the plants loved it, they seemed more vigorous during their veg growth.
Not to discredit your findings at all UB because i regularly follow your posts - infact your post influenced me to top on my 1st grow and iv done it many more times since the results were great.
However, superthrive convinces me.
It's good for root growth as you said, and because of this my young plants shot up and out when I used it.

Monkz

UB didnt do the experiment. Someone on gardenweb did. Maybe you could be the one to do a side by side with mj and show us some results?

On a side note, if any of you guys have never visited gardenweb you really should. You can learn alot there, especially from Tapla.

 

[terrorizer805]

Do you only use superthrive for cloning, or do you use a cloning gel/powder as well

No I use Earth Juice Rootstock organic cutting gel, and I soak my rock wool in GHGO Bio Root, and SuperThrive mix and they root out pretty damn fast from what i've seen. That's the only time I use superthrive though never through out the grow.

 

[Kid Gro]

Yeah i used it with no problems..
Better than paying 60 bucks for other sh*t...

 

[DaveCoulier]

No I use Earth Juice Rootstock organic cutting gel, and I soak my rock wool in GHGO Bio Root, and SuperThrive mix and they root out pretty damn fast from what i've seen. That's the only time I use superthrive though never through out the grow.

How fast are we talking here?

 

[terrorizer805]

How fast are we talking here?

about 1 1/2 week to be fully rooted
under 24 hours of light with 1 13 watt cfl

 

[algeezy509]

about 1 1/2 week to be fully rooted
under 24 hours of light with 1 13 watt cfl

I have some bag seed that popped their shell off 7 days ago and they have good roots not to mention big juicy leaves and all of them are happy, but that's what superthrive specials in so this is expected, soon i will see how it goes with big girls and i'm sure it will be good, can't wait to see.

 

[algeezy509]

good job UB i came to this site about 8 months ago and it took me a long time to get involved but since i have you've been a complete inspiration love it dogg!!

 

[indyman]

hEY UB I THINK JUST F UP UR POST DAMNIT.SORRY ABOUT THAT DONT EVEN NO HOW I DID THAT IF I DID.bUT I DID USE SUPERTHRIVE YEARS BACK AND I THOUGHT IT WAS THE BEST THING I'VE EVER SEEN BUT NOW I'M OLDER AND WWHIZERRR,I HAVE NOT USED FOR YEARS I'M GOING TO PICK SOME UP AND TRY IT ON ONLY 2 PLANTS AND I WILL SEE IF THERE IS A DIFF.MY JUDGEMENT AS A GROWN MAN IS MUCH BETTER THAN WHEN I WAS A TEEN A FEW YEARS INTO GROWIN SO I WILL POST PICS AND LET EVERY BODY SEE IF THERE IS A DIFF. MAYBE WE CAN FINALLY SEE A FULL GROW START TO FINISH, I'LL DO IT JUST FOR THE SAKE OF EXPERIMENT AN JUST MAYBE WILL NO IF THE MYTH IS TRUE.

 

[Uncle Ben]

Glad ya'll are havin' a good time.

Grow hard,
UB

 

[Ambrose Bierce]

Do you only use superthrive for cloning, or do you use a cloning gel/powder as well?



UB didnt do the experiment. Someone on gardenweb did. Maybe you could be the one to do a side by side with mj and show us some results?

On a side note, if any of you guys have never visited gardenweb you really should. You can learn alot there, especially from Tapla.

Hey Dave, Tapla has been banned from that forum for some reason.

I know that he is at a new forum, but I can't find it.

Ambrose.

 

[monkz]

UB didnt do the experiment. Someone on gardenweb did. Maybe you could be the one to do a side by side with mj and show us some results?

On a side note, if any of you guys have never visited gardenweb you really should. You can learn alot there, especially from Tapla.

you know what lol i might just do that,
iv just ordered my seeds for my next grow (many strains) and will have 2 frisian dew.
so ill probably feed one with superthrive and one without and we shall see the difference!!

 

[DaveCoulier]

Hey Dave, Tapla has been banned from that forum for some reason.

I know that he is at a new forum, but I can't find it.

Ambrose.

Are you sure he's banned again? I saw he was banned at the beginning of 09, but they reinstated his account, and he resumed posting. I didn't see any mention of being banned twice.

 

[Uncle Ben]

"Why does the mystique of vitamin B-1 transplant tonics still persist after decades of scientific debunking?"

The Bottom Line

• Vitamin B-1, aka thiamine, does not reduce transplant shock or stimulate new root growth on plants outside the laboratory

• A nitrogen fertilizer is adequate for transplanting landscape plants; avoid use of “transplant fertilizers” that contain phosphate

• Healthy plants will synthesize their own thiamine supply

• Healthy soils contain beneficial microbes that synthesize thiamine as well

• Difficult-to-transplant species may be aided by application of auxin-containing products in addition to nitrogen, but read the label and don’t add unnecessary and potentially harmful chemicals (this includes organics!)

• Adequate soil moisture is crucial for new root growth; be sure to irrigate new transplants frequently and use mulch to reduce evaporation

http://www.puyallup.wsu.edu/~Linda%20Chalker-Scott/Horticultural%20Myths_files/Myths/Vitamin%20B1.pdf

The warning about using phosphates during transplanting is interesting. I've made it a practice to add a 15-30-15 to my drenches.

FWIW, Dave turned me onto this Master Gardener's website.

UB

 

[terrorizer805]

I Clone using rockwool. The Bio Root Product I use NPK is 1-1-1 also 1 drop of superthrive so somethings working.
It says healthy plants produce their own auxins or thaimine why not assist them by providing them with it from the get go instead of waiting on them to produce it?

 

[Uncle Ben]

I Clone using rockwool. The Bio Root Product I use NPK is 1-1-1 also 1 drop of superthrive so somethings working.
It says healthy plants produce their own auxins or thaimine why not assist them by providing them with it from the get go instead of waiting on them to produce it?

Assist? You're assuming that plants have the ability to synthesize such matter, that somehow they would benefit? Might say so on the snake oil label, doesn't mean it's so.

Any time you mess with mother nature's natural ho moans, she's gonna "settle accounts."

 

[terrorizer805]

It says so on your link that they produce their own thaimine or auxins

 

[terrorizer805]

"Healthy plants will synthesize their own thiamine supply"

 

[terrorizer805]

Snake oil?
If you're reffering to Bio Root as snake oil well...

Alfalfa meal, brewer's yeast, potassium sulfate, rock phosphate, sea kelp, soybean meal

Those are all natural ingredients how is it a snake oil?

 

[Uncle Ben]

It says so on your link that they produce their own thaimine or auxins

I know, and that's my point. If the plant is taking care of itself, your outside additions can produce unpredictable results, at least with hormones.

IOW, grow a healthy plant with plenty of foliage and get away from the gimmicks or trying to find a short cut to natural plant growth and development. Trust me, in spite of what everyone wishes to believe around here, there is no secret potion that aids in growing nice plants. Understanding their basic needs and providing for them is the bottom line.

UB