My 2nd Grow Journal. LST, SOG, SCROG, Super Crop.

DaveCoulier

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Can you point me to the thread (the lollipop thread)? I'd be happy to throw in the results of the 2 plants that I have in my flower room right now that are lollipopped...
Well if you want to get ate alive by UB, by all means go ahead...

https://www.rollitup.org/advanced-marijuana-cultivation/244201-lollipopping.html

The problem with your two plants is that they aren't finished, so you dont have much results to go on :).

Until someone completes a grow journal of lollipopping vs not on clones it'll just be everyones opinion for the most part and no definite answer.
 

snutter

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Well if you want to get ate alive by UB, by all means go ahead...

https://www.rollitup.org/advanced-marijuana-cultivation/244201-lollipopping.html

The problem with your two plants is that they aren't finished, so you dont have much results to go on :).

Until someone completes a grow journal of lollipopping vs not on clones it'll just be everyones opinion for the most part and no definite answer.
Ah, ok I understand. Well then, we'll just have to do a full experiment then. Soon enough I'll have space and I'll make it happen. Unless someone else does first..

thanks, DC..

-S
 

DaveCoulier

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Ah, ok I understand. Well then, we'll just have to do a full experiment then. Soon enough I'll have space and I'll make it happen. Unless someone else does first..

thanks, DC..

-S
Whenever Bob Smith starts his experiment, Ill throw you the link.
 

jflo

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hey thanx for the dry pics!!! nice dank.

I think you are right about the sog prolly winning. Its just common sense that having many smaller plants that dont have grow huge to produce alot each plant will beat a single plant that has to get enormous and use up so much more resources to produce as much as you want to get.

PLus I like that you are going perpetual on a week basis, this will give you 8 more times you try different tweaking to analyze your methods. I am just so friggin impatient! I cant wait 8 weeks to get results... I'm going to go a 10 cycle one plant per. I gotta stay under legal limits(12 plants total), and I ain't in cali.

You Cali fuckers are so spoiled!! lol jk.

One more thing, as a test you might try throwing in a bud enhancer into one of the bigger girls just to see if they make a difference, I know you like to keep it simple but one product wouldnt be a hassel.



Just a thought, cuz from how happy and green yer girlz were the last time, I was a little suprised they didnt pull close to an elbow each, there had to be something that denied them the density and heaviness they looked like they were going to have.
I hear good things about "gravity" and "big bud" products.
 

snutter

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snutter

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I went over to my other brother's house. He told me he had some pot like he'd NEVER seen, touched, or smoked before in his life, and said it was the kill... I was intrigued...

He busted out a nugget sized bud of weed that I shit-you-not was almost the size of my closed fist. It was at least 3/4 the size of my closed fist. What was even more impressive was that it was HARD-AS-A-ROCK dense!!! I would try to gently squeeze it to get it to let go of some of it's scent, and it would totally resist my squeezing attempts (smelled killer anyway tho). I finally said to my bro, this is some bad ass weed, how does it smoke??? He said, "the shit gets me high as a kite. One of those cool cerebral highs where you just float around the house doing shit and loving life." My last thought was, "sounds pretty sweet."

Needless to say, he was right.

As the night progressed, he finally dropped the bomb on me: "Hey man, the weed we've been smoking.....I got a few seeds out of it. I bought an ounce, and I didn't get many seeds, but I got enough." I was super stoked.

He gave me 5 (he thinks I'm friends with a grower on the other side of town, and that's where I get all my smoke). I went home and germ'd 3. So far far 2 of the 3 have fully cracked, are in rock wool, and are growing as we speak. The 3rd one just broke it's shell and the tap root is pressing out as we speak... Can you say Hell Yeah?!?!??! I can!!!

I used the seed chart to try and determine what the seeds he gave me are. It looks to me like 3 Female, and 2 Male. We'll see. All I know is I am very excited to grow this weed!!!

It is called, Amsterdam Flame. It seems to be mostly Indica Dominant, but the high didnt seem like it to me. We'll see as the grow progresses and I get to smoke some of my own home-grown. :-)

I'm going to start a thread for this weed on it's own. I think it's going to blow some people's minds around here. It's AMAZING to look at, touch, squeeze (which you can't cause it's too dense), smell, and smoke. The shit's a knock out.

Ok, I'm sorry I rambled on so hard on this thread about a strain that I am starting, instead of letting you all know what's been going on with my 2nd grow.... I know, I SUCK!!!! So sue me!!! Heheheheheh. Ok, a new update, with pics, and all the shit coming VERY soon.

Later Y'all
-S
 

DaveCoulier

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I went over to my other brother's house. He told me he had some pot like he'd NEVER seen, touched, or smoked before in his life, and said it was the kill... I was intrigued...

He busted out a nugget sized bud of weed that I shit-you-not was almost the size of my closed fist. It was at least 3/4 the size of my closed fist. What was even more impressive was that it was HARD-AS-A-ROCK dense!!! I would try to gently squeeze it to get it to let go of some of it's scent, and it would totally resist my squeezing attempts (smelled killer anyway tho). I finally said to my bro, this is some bad ass weed, how does it smoke??? He said, "the shit gets me high as a kite. One of those cool cerebral highs where you just float around the house doing shit and loving life." My last thought was, "sounds pretty sweet."

Needless to say, he was right.

As the night progressed, he finally dropped the bomb on me: "Hey man, the weed we've been smoking.....I got a few seeds out of it. I bought an ounce, and I didn't get many seeds, but I got enough." I was super stoked.

He gave me 5 (he thinks I'm friends with a grower on the other side of town, and that's where I get all my smoke). I went home and germ'd 3. So far far 2 of the 3 have fully cracked, are in rock wool, and are growing as we speak. The 3rd one just broke it's shell and the tap root is pressing out as we speak... Can you say Hell Yeah?!?!??! I can!!!

I used the seed chart to try and determine what the seeds he gave me are. It looks to me like 3 Female, and 2 Male. We'll see. All I know is I am very excited to grow this weed!!!

It is called, Amsterdam Flame. It seems to be mostly Indica Dominant, but the high didnt seem like it to me. We'll see as the grow progresses and I get to smoke some of my own home-grown. :-)

I'm going to start a thread for this weed on it's own. I think it's going to blow some people's minds around here. It's AMAZING to look at, touch, squeeze (which you can't cause it's too dense), smell, and smoke. The shit's a knock out.

Ok, I'm sorry I rambled on so hard on this thread about a strain that I am starting, instead of letting you all know what's been going on with my 2nd grow.... I know, I SUCK!!!! So sue me!!! Heheheheheh. Ok, a new update, with pics, and all the shit coming VERY soon.

Later Y'all
-S
Looking forward to a grow and smoke report of the seeds. Are you gonna do any inbreeding with them? Maybe you should give some seeds to your buddies *wink wink* hehe.
 

snutter

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Looking forward to a grow and smoke report of the seeds. Are you gonna do any inbreeding with them? Maybe you should give some seeds to your buddies *wink wink* hehe.
Funny you should ask. One thing I've heard a few people say about white rhino is that the nugs are not quite as tight as they'd like them to be... This amsterdam flame shit is super tight, and killer. I'm thinking that if I do in fact get a male plant, I'll harvest some pollen and select one cola on one of my plants to pollinate. Amsterdam Flame crossed with White Rhino.... What shall we call it??

Amsterdam Rhino? White Flame (I fuggin like that name!!!)? Amsterdam White? Rhino Flame?? hahaha.

I like Rhino Flame and White Flame the best...

-S
 

snutter

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Hello friends,

Sorry for so many days going by with out any update. Not much has really happened except the plants are Veg'ing away...

The first pic is of the super-cropped plant. It is doing really well. I'm surprised at a few things. One; when I pinch and roll the stalks, i always get nervous that I'm going to break it in half. But man, Mary Jane is an extremely tough plant. After each pinching/rolling, the top will lilt over to the side, but in a couple of days they'll be standing straight up again. Two; the stalks are almost twice as thick now compared to other stalks of equal size and length. That's very cool, and I hope it transfers in to more bud-mass. And three; I'm having trouble getting all the main growing colas to be at the same heighth. I'm going to have to put a little more effort in to this aspect of the grow. I want them to be equal height, if possible.

The 2nd picture is the LST plant. It's hard to see in the picture, but all the main shoots are folded over at the moment to let some of the outside shoots catch up. I'm looking forward to a very nice, thick, even canopy on this one. The plant is already friggin huge! She needs to get in to the flower room ASAP. I'm thinking 10 days she goes in.

The third picture is of a smaller plant that I am just begining LST training on. It's coming along nicely. Just put her in here for fun. :-)

As for the control plant, she's in the flower room now, and the lights are off so no picture today. She's big, beautiful, and healthy as can be. :-)

The SOG or SCROG clones are not fairing so well. So far I've had 2 out of 6 that didn't root. This has never happened to me before. I'm using a new medium to root in (can't remember what it's called, it's some sort of soft brown shit, kind of like a sponge). I'm a little pissed about this because I need 5 plants for my planned SOG/SCROG experiment. I took another clone, and I hope she'll root quickly. It looks like I may only have 4 for the experiment though. Sorry, I didn't take any pics of the clones. I forgot.

The last picture is of my two new seedlings. I think that I reported that these are amsterdam flame. That's not correct. They are bag seed from some killer bud my brother had. Sorry for the confusion. It's going to be fun to grow. The bud was the rock hardest nugs I've ever touched.

AND NOW about the DISASTER.... So, i put a new clone in to one of my 5 gallon reservoirs. The lights were up high in the veg room, so I decided to place one of my 18 gallon totes upside down and put the 5 gallon res on top of it. BAD idea. The stupid stoner that I am, I didn't think about it possibly collapsing. Which it did. Completely full of 5 gallons of water!!! I don't know when it fell over, but I'm sure it was at least 12 hours later that I found it. Luckily for me, my grow room is built in an unfinished section of the house. It fell over right next to a wall (which is built on top of concrete), and the water drained right down the side of the concrete form, to the basement, which is dirt. That was lucky. The poor plant was laying all squished up and shit, and the roots were completely dry... I filled it back up with fresh nutes, put the plant back in to the reservoir, and crossed my fingers. Once again, Mary Jane proves what a hardy plant she is. She took right back off growing like nothing had ever happened.

There's an important point to mention here. If I had any of my cords, power strips, or ballasts on the ground, that could have created a bad situation, and who knows, maybe even an electrical fire while no one was home. I've seen grow room pics with ballasts on the floor, or other electrical devices. This accident was a good reminder: Keep ALL electrical devices/equipment off the floors if at all possible. It's just good practice and a smart thing to do.

Well, I'll catch you all later. I'm 10 days away from another harvest (just 1 plant). I plan on posting pics of her here though, just for the fun of it. She's got some very sweet colas on her. Can't wait to see what she yields.

-S

PS
Notice that the stems on my baby seedlings are a nice GREEN??? Now, have you ever noticed that most of the soil growers stems are usually RED when they are this young? I have. If you haven't already, start watching for this when ever you see new seedling pictures. It seems like 9 out of 10 times , RED stems. Red stem is not good. The plant is already showing that there is going to be a problem, and soon...

PPS
now watch my stems turn red on me.. hahahah.
 

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snutter

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Here's one more picture of the LST plant. I like this one better than the one in the last message. It shows the plant being bent over better... The two colas to the right are the ones that I am trying to let grow taller to catch up with the ones on the left that are bent over at the moment...

-S
 

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snutter

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Thanks Sean. Glad to have you on board.

All, I will be taking new pics tonight and will have a new update as well. The girls are looking lovely as ever.

I'm also a few days away from a harvest. I'll post some pics from it here, just for gits and shiggles. There are some very nice colas that I want to show off.. :-)

-S
 

snutter

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Damnit guys...

my SOG clones are not yet rooted and I'm getting a bit pissed about it. They should be in full veg by now!!!!

I took the clones over 2 and half weeks ago, and I'm still not seeing roots. There are roots, but none coming out the bottom of the shit.

I tried using this new type of material to root in. I usually use rock wool, but I bought this other brown sponge type of shit. It's pH neutral, so i thought it would be cool. But so far, no roots poking out of the bottoms.... I want to get my SOG started!!! I've already built the new reservoir for it. It has 5 sites in one lid. It's going to be super cool!!

But god damnit, i can't use the friggin thing until those stupid clones get to where I need them!! I've never seen it take so long here for roots to form.

Hell, my 2 new seedlings already have roots coming out of the bottom of the rock wool I put them in, and they're only a week old. They'll be in a reservoir in 3 or 4 more days, which I am happy about.

just a quick update. More tonight with pics...I hope..

-S
 
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