Has anybody heard of this National ID Card?

medicineman

New Member
True thing...I have tuberculosis .. weird but true... I am from a central america country where the disease was an epidemic once....
So I suppose that if a new epidemic breaks out, I wont die that easy!
So, are you bringing that jewel to America, TB, we eradicated that 20 years ago, please tell me you aren't here to infect us. There is a #1 reason for border control.
 

iblazethatkush

Well-Known Member
chip everyone. only the guilty need worry. no more kidnapping. no more "america's most wanted". no more manhunts. no more missing persons. no more illegals..........
Wow nobody else is worried about this? They're taking away our freedoms one at a time. You know, the Jews said the same thing FDD, but by the time they realized it was too late.
 

iblazethatkush

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freedom to kidnap? i don't get it.
This would not stop kidnappings, terrorists, or illegals. Of that much, I am certain. This is a way to track and control us law-abiding citizens.
Oh, little Jimmy, has a microchip in his right hand? Here, dig it out with this knife, and throw him in the back of the van...
 

fdd2blk

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This would not stop kidnappings, terrorists, or illegals. Of that much, I am certain. This is a way to track and control us law-abiding citizens.
Oh, little Jimmy, has a microchip in his right hand? Here, dig it out with this knife, and throw him in the back of the van...

tracking us why? i still am not getting it.
 

shamegame

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Apparently, the mainstream media is banned from talking about it. They're going to start issuing them in May '08. This is some scary shit. Reminds of the mark of the beast talked about in Revelations. YouTube - The National ID Card (Out There TV - May 2005)
This is only the first phase. The second phase is being implanted with an RF chip which will carry all the data provided on the card and much much more.

This is part of the reason why the US government has let the illegal alien problem get so bad- so they would have even more " need " to make sure everyone in this country is marked. It is scary shit.
 

shamegame

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scary why? someone please tell me.
With this chip implanted, The government will be able to:

- Track your every move
- Turn off access to your money
-Turn off your passport
-Take away cash and force all transactions to be logged. Try buying anything shady with no cash + no more privacy as to where your money goes.

There is no reason for any government to implant a chip in the right hand of every person in the country. This is the kind of things police states do to.If you don't take the chip you will be off the grid, unable to work or pay taxes or bills, unable to buy groceries or even those nifty 100$ doobies from the clubs. We will be forced to take the chip or live like homeless cavemen. Want to drive? You will have to have the chip. Want to travel outside your home state? you will nee the chip. Want to take the kids to Disneyworld Orlando? They will have to bare the mark in order to go.

You will also have to give a DNA sample to the government. Right now only felons have to do that. Why should everyone? Why should we let the government ( who we can't trust as it is ) hook us al up into a mainframe and follow anyone they want. It's just inherently bad.
 

fdd2blk

Well-Known Member
With this chip implanted, The government will be able to:

- Track your every move
- Turn off access to your money
-Turn off your passport
-Take away cash and force all transactions to be logged. Try buying anything shady with no cash + no more privacy as to where your money goes.

There is no reason for any government to implant a chip in the right hand of every person in the country. This is the kind of things police states do to.If you don't take the chip you will be off the grid, unable to work or pay taxes or bills, unable to buy groceries or even those nifty 100$ doobies from the clubs. We will be forced to take the chip or live like homeless cavemen. Want to drive? You will have to have the chip. Want to travel outside your home state? you will nee the chip. Want to take the kids to Disneyworld Orlando? They will have to bare the mark in order to go.

You will also have to give a DNA sample to the government. Right now only felons have to do that. Why should everyone? Why should we let the government ( who we can't trust as it is ) hook us al up into a mainframe and follow anyone they want. It's just inherently bad.

track every move? so and why?

turn off my money? why?

turn off my passport? why?

don't you have to do something wrong first? what am i doing?

still confused. :confused::confused: sounds like a lot of conspiracy sky is falling hoopla.
 

highguy4706

Well-Known Member
With this chip implanted, The government will be able to:

- Track your every move
- Turn off access to your money
-Turn off your passport
-Take away cash and force all transactions to be logged. Try buying anything shady with no cash + no more privacy as to where your money goes.

There is no reason for any government to implant a chip in the right hand of every person in the country. This is the kind of things police states do to.If you don't take the chip you will be off the grid, unable to work or pay taxes or bills, unable to buy groceries or even those nifty 100$ doobies from the clubs. We will be forced to take the chip or live like homeless cavemen. Want to drive? You will have to have the chip. Want to travel outside your home state? you will nee the chip. Want to take the kids to Disneyworld Orlando? They will have to bare the mark in order to go.

You will also have to give a DNA sample to the government. Right now only felons have to do that. Why should everyone? Why should we let the government ( who we can't trust as it is ) hook us al up into a mainframe and follow anyone they want. It's just inherently bad.
We dont need the chip to live we only need it to live they way they say we should, wich you should start to be realizing is what is inherently wrong. We do what they tell us now even if we bitch about it or want it to change none of us have the balls to do what needs to be done. But i assure you that if it were done it would at least we would not die without a fight, because we will all die no matter what its just wether we put up a fight that matters
 

shamegame

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track every move? so and why?

turn off my money? why?

turn off my passport? why?

don't you have to do something wrong first? what am i doing?

still confused. :confused::confused: sounds like a lot of conspiracy sky is falling hoopla.
I understand why you feel there is nothing wrong with it. Like many people, you probably don't commit acts of violent crime or terrorism, and you can't imagine why anyone would worry if they haven't done anything wrong.

The problem is, what do you do when something you do when the government keeps closing the fences in as far as what is considered wrong.
Do you know that in this country now, anyone who commits a felony is considered a terrorist? That means they can treat you like an enemy combatent and drag you off outside the country and torture you or make you disappear. Makes court and county jail look like heaven. Stand up against the government for a good cause - they don't like it- they flip your chip which will keep your ass from getting too far then scoop you up and you are never seen again.

Part of the freedoms we enjoy are things like being able to get in you car and just get lost in America.That anonimity is soon to be gone forever.

I am probably not making sense. But to sum it up, it is the responsibility of the people to keep the government in check, and to make sure that reasonable freedoms are kept in play. Making sure that Orwell's 1984 never comes to be. It's getting there-fast.


We can all agree that our government is getting worse and worse. In the end there will be another revolution in this country. It is things like these chips that will make sure people who protest, fight back, or do anything to upset the status quo will be easily picked up. At the same time, these chips will not keep things like 9/11 from happening again.So the question is why do we need them again?
 

highguy4706

Well-Known Member
I understand why you feel there is nothing wrong with it. Like many people, you probably don't commit acts of violent crime or terrorism, and you can't imagine why anyone would worry if they haven't done anything wrong.

The problem is, what do you do when something you do when the government keeps closing the fences in as far as what is considered wrong.
Do you know that in this country now, anyone who commits a felony is considered a terrorist? That means they can treat you like an enemy combatent and drag you off outside the country and torture you or make you disappear. Makes court and county jail look like heaven. Stand up against the government for a good cause - they don't like it- they flip your chip which will keep your ass from getting too far then scoop you up and you are never seen again.

Part of the freedoms we enjoy are things like being able to get in you car and just get lost in America.That anonimity is soon to be gone forever.

I am probably not making sense. But to sum it up, it is the responsibility of the people to keep the government in check, and to make sure that reasonable freedoms are kept in play. Making sure that Orwell's 1984 never comes to be. It's getting there-fast.
are you willing to do what it really takes though?
 

fdd2blk

Well-Known Member
i still have not seen ANYTHING BAD. i am at a loss. it's like man-bear-pig. wtf? so DON'T commit a felony. what rights have you* given up lately?

*meaning ANYONE, ANYWHERE.
 

iblazethatkush

Well-Known Member
With this chip implanted, The government will be able to:

- Track your every move
- Turn off access to your money
-Turn off your passport
-Take away cash and force all transactions to be logged. Try buying anything shady with no cash + no more privacy as to where your money goes.

There is no reason for any government to implant a chip in the right hand of every person in the country. This is the kind of things police states do to.If you don't take the chip you will be off the grid, unable to work or pay taxes or bills, unable to buy groceries or even those nifty 100$ doobies from the clubs. We will be forced to take the chip or live like homeless cavemen. Want to drive? You will have to have the chip. Want to travel outside your home state? you will nee the chip. Want to take the kids to Disneyworld Orlando? They will have to bare the mark in order to go.

You will also have to give a DNA sample to the government. Right now only felons have to do that. Why should everyone? Why should we let the government ( who we can't trust as it is ) hook us al up into a mainframe and follow anyone they want. It's just inherently bad.
Very nice, Shame. Couldn't have said it better myself.
 

iblazethatkush

Well-Known Member
i still have not seen ANYTHING BAD. i am at a loss. it's like man-bear-pig. wtf? so DON'T commit a felony. what rights have you* given up lately?

*meaning ANYONE, ANYWHERE.
You'll be giving up a lot of freedoms when this goes through. You will need this to buy and sell goods, travel, just about anything. It's the mark of the beast, man. Do you really want the government to have a record of everything you buy? It's probably going to be hard to buy seeds over the internet after May '08. Buy all the strains u want to grow now, b4 it's too late.
 

fdd2blk

Well-Known Member
You'll be giving up a lot of freedoms when this goes through. You will need this to buy and sell goods, travel, just about anything. It's the mark of the beast, man. Do you really want the government to have a record of everything you buy? It's probably going to be hard to buy seeds over the internet after May '08. Buy all the strains u want to grow now, b4 it's too late.

does the government really give a shit what i buy? i bought 2 bags of lightly salted kettle chips, some plastic storage bins, some glass cleaner, some tea for the wife, a new toilet brush, ......and that was just this morning. who gives a sh*t? do i care if "they" know? no, why should i? are they going to take away my intra net?

so this is just a prediction. got it. time to get high and laugh along.:mrgreen:
 

iblazethatkush

Well-Known Member
so this is just a prediction. got it. time to get high and laugh along.:mrgreen:
It's already a done deal. Passed by congress, signed by George W. Bush. May '08 we will all be required to get one or we won't be recognized as United States citizens. Why do you think you haven't heard anything about this in the MSM? They don't want anybody questioning this.
 

fdd2blk

Well-Known Member
It's already a done deal. Passed by congress, signed by George W. Bush. May '08 we will all be required to get one or we won't be recognized as United States citizens. Why do you think you haven't heard anything about this in the MSM? They don't want anybody questioning this.
so that's it? 6 months from now it ends? get the fuck out. :mrgreen: do you realize what it would take to get people to do this? can't even get them to vote.

hurry, i'm getting really high.
 
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