Can someone wrap up ppm and EC for me

GanjaEnthusiast

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i just need a quick wrap up of where to get the tools what they look like and how much etc. Also i hear people saying they measure their nutes with ppm and EC and they know they can add more nutes. whats the deal with this? i've never check my ppm or EC once and i've had 3 succesful sensimilla crops the leaves all died off at the end of flowering but the nugs were fantasmo.
 

Luv2Gro

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i just need a quick wrap up of where to get the tools what they look like and how much etc. Also i hear people saying they measure their nutes with ppm and EC and they know they can add more nutes. whats the deal with this? i've never check my ppm or EC once and i've had 3 succesful sensimilla crops the leaves all died off at the end of flowering but the nugs were fantasmo.
EC measures the how well your nutrient solution conducts electricity... Distilled water or water w/ no particles in it does not conduct electricity at all, but the more other stuff (nutrients, calcium, whatever else is in ur tapwater) that are in the water the more electricity it will conduct... So, by measuring EC we know how much fertilizer is in the solution that we are feeding plants...

PPM is similar to EC as it's actually measuring the same thing, it stands for parts per million and will tell you how many ppm you have of total dissolved solids (stuff) in your solution... PPM is not quite as accurate as EC according to the growers bible b/c it actually takes EC and then converts to ppm... Hope this makes some sense to you??

In order to grow in hydro i suggest to get a meter, i didn't go cheap, I got a milwaukee that does ph, ppm, and ec and it cost around 185usd on ebay.. By having a meter you can know when you need to add water to lower ec or add nutes to raise ec... IMO and many others this is a very good tool to have... If you've been having great results without i would say it could only make u better because you'll know when ur plants need more nutes before they tell you...

If you have anymore questions about the ppm/ec hit me back, or maybe someone can explain way better than that... :peace:
 

GanjaEnthusiast

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EC measures the how well your nutrient solution conducts electricity... Distilled water or water w/ no particles in it does not conduct electricity at all, but the more other stuff (nutrients, calcium, whatever else is in ur tapwater) that are in the water the more electricity it will conduct... So, by measuring EC we know how much fertilizer is in the solution that we are feeding plants...

PPM is similar to EC as it's actually measuring the same thing, it stands for parts per million and will tell you how many ppm you have of total dissolved solids (stuff) in your solution... PPM is not quite as accurate as EC according to the growers bible b/c it actually takes EC and then converts to ppm... Hope this makes some sense to you??

In order to grow in hydro i suggest to get a meter, i didn't go cheap, I got a milwaukee that does ph, ppm, and ec and it cost around 185usd on ebay.. By having a meter you can know when you need to add water to lower ec or add nutes to raise ec... IMO and many others this is a very good tool to have... If you've been having great results without i would say it could only make u better because you'll know when ur plants need more nutes before they tell you...

If you have anymore questions about the ppm/ec hit me back, or maybe someone can explain way better than that... :peace:

Yes i totally understand you bro that hits the spot! you summed it up perfectly. I still have questions though. currently i'm growing in soil and i just put a handful of wormcasting in per 3 gallons of soil(per bucket) and a sprinkle of flower power organic fertilizer. I never end up adding nutes to my water. Is EC and ppm something to worry about when i'm growing in soil? do you get a meter that sticks into the soil or something? also i am always open to new grow strats next i want to try coco i saw bm's thread. It seems there are more skilled people giving precise advise for hydroponic type setups where with soil its people saying a dash of this a sprinkle of that. lol
 

GanjaEnthusiast

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2xppm = EC in which form? ms/cm? ds/m? us/m clerify
you know what i'm saying? us/m? or something because ppm is normally in the thousands while EC I typically hear refered to as smaller numbers 1-20 am i completely wrong or what? and the meters i've read online about all measure in ms/cm
 

Luv2Gro

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you know what i'm saying? us/m? or something because ppm is normally in the thousands while EC I typically hear refered to as smaller numbers 1-20 am i completely wrong or what? and the meters i've read online about all measure in ms/cm
us stands for micro siemens, which is a decimal point then 6 zeros.... ms is milli siemens which is a dec point then 3 zeros... my meter measures in us or microsiemens... there are 3 diff ppm scales but the one i use (bc i use advanced nutients and thts wht they use) it equals out to: ec x 700 = ppm... for instance tonight my ec was 2.18 my ppm was around 1490-1530... (700 x 2.18=1526)...

As far as the questions about soil, i have no idea bro... maybe try to outdoor section?? they have way more info on growing in soil than me... hope this helps clarify a little more...

2.18 microsiemens us, was my measurement tonight that = .00000218 so not actually six zeros but the sixth spot is where micro is...
2.18 millisiemens ms, would be .00218 but this would be a huge ppm and plants would be dead, lol...
 

cowboylogic

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got any pics of your grows? you got it cookin, i wanna see! anyways it seems you have gotten great answers to great questions. if my assumption is right, new grower, dont over nute, dont overwater, pay attention to your babies. coolbeans dude. keep growing. i would still love too see somepics.
 

Luv2Gro

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yea man, a link to my journal is n my sig... only my 2nd grow in my place but i've helped w many grows and read a lot... by no means an expert but yea check out my journal, i just started a new batch of clones... peace
 

suprablaski

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us stands for micro siemens, which is a decimal point then 6 zeros.... ms is milli siemens which is a dec point then 3 zeros... my meter measures in us or microsiemens... there are 3 diff ppm scales but the one i use (bc i use advanced nutients and thts wht they use) it equals out to: ec x 700 = ppm... for instance tonight my ec was 2.18 my ppm was around 1490-1530... (700 x 2.18=1526)...

As far as the questions about soil, i have no idea bro... maybe try to outdoor section?? they have way more info on growing in soil than me... hope this helps clarify a little more...

2.18 microsiemens us, was my measurement tonight that = .00000218 so not actually six zeros but the sixth spot is where micro is...
2.18 millisiemens ms, would be .00218 but this would be a huge ppm and plants would be dead, lol...
hi all, new to the forums not to the grow. am new to hydro though. anyways i have a question on this, i have an EC meter that measures in microsiemens but im not getting any kinda 1.0 or 2.0, my tap after sitting our for 2 days measures at 177 uS. so either im mixing something up or were talking about 2 diff uS lol meter is calibrated checked it today, and with a 1440 uS soulution. any ideas where im going wrong on converting this to ppm or whatever 1.- number it might be?
 

SickSadLittleWorld

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hi all, new to the forums not to the grow. am new to hydro though. anyways i have a question on this, i have an EC meter that measures in microsiemens but im not getting any kinda 1.0 or 2.0, my tap after sitting our for 2 days measures at 177 uS. so either im mixing something up or were talking about 2 diff uS lol meter is calibrated checked it today, and with a 1440 uS soulution. any ideas where im going wrong on converting this to ppm or whatever 1.- number it might be?
You are just mixing up micro and milli units. 1.0 millisiemens is 1000 microsiemens. So your water at 177uS is .017 mS.
 

suprablaski

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You are just mixing up micro and milli units. 1.0 millisiemens is 1000 microsiemens. So your water at 177uS is .017 mS.
well he said his meter read uS but his EC was 2.18, it dont seem logical my tap water would be clean enough to call an EC .017 so trying to figure out how to go from 177 uS to a conversion im familiar with
 

SickSadLittleWorld

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well he said his meter read uS but his EC was 2.18, it dont seem logical my tap water would be clean enough to call an EC .017 so trying to figure out how to go from 177 uS to a conversion im familiar with
EC is measured in mS, not uS. My meter reads in uS, as I'm sure most others do as well. It is just more accurate measuring in uS, than mS. Your tap water has an EC of .0177.

If your tap water has an EC of 1.0, it would on the verge of undrinkable with all the dissolved shit in there.
 

suprablaski

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EC is measured in mS, not uS. My meter reads in uS, as I'm sure most others do as well. It is just more accurate measuring in uS, than mS. Your tap water has an EC of .0177.

If your tap water has an EC of 1.0, it would on the verge of undrinkable with all the dissolved shit in there.
kk thx for the assist, thought .017 would be to low and i must be making a mistake but guess not lol.
 
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