I really don't want to waste anyone's time here, so if i'm too retarded don't bother. Anyway, i was smoking weed the other day and I looked at my little pile of seeds and stems and i thought it would be really awesome to try my hand at growing. So really i have absolutely nothing except like five low-quality seeds sitting in a styrofoam cup in my room. Is this a total waste of time? Or could i possibly be able to grow enough weed for personal use this way, on relatively no budget? I'm looking at growing these things in my room, and space is limited. Also, detection is a problem. Should i even give this a shot? If so, how and where do i begin?
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i would do some reading around the newbie section it takes patience to grow weed trust me i am kinda new to growing to myself best advise is to read and get u some good seeds like some kush or something and get 40wat flourescent lights for vegatation but before that soak the seed in a wet paper towl intill u see a white thing comeing out and pot them in soil 1seed per pot and well just read around lol sorry cuzz i gtg for now
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FallenHero
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read this: https://www.rollitup.org/newbie-central/937-how-grow-marijuana.html
incorporate the knowledge you get from it, into a small situation, i use my cloest, for instance. whats your budget? depending on that will depend on how much your yield is, while compact floros are 9 bucks a piece they wont yield good unless you have a good amount of them. of course you will get SOMETHING...
incorporate the knowledge you get from it, into a small situation, i use my cloest, for instance. whats your budget? depending on that will depend on how much your yield is, while compact floros are 9 bucks a piece they wont yield good unless you have a good amount of them. of course you will get SOMETHING...
well i'm not rich but i could probably spare as much as $100 on this. like i said i'm not in it to make money really, but more actually to save it. to be honest i was just gettin a little sick of constantly having to buy weed. btw thanks for taking me seriously
I read that thing and it really helped. however, all that he went over in there seemed a little unnecessary in my case. is ph really an issue? if it is i'll worry about it but if not i wont really care. also, with lighting, could i just use two or three regular light bulbs? and leave these on for like 18 hrs a day?
I read that thing and it really helped. however, all that he went over in there seemed a little unnecessary in my case. is ph really an issue? if it is i'll worry about it but if not i wont really care. also, with lighting, could i just use two or three regular light bulbs? and leave these on for like 18 hrs a day?
MightyBuddha
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No matter the scale you need to follow the same guidelines to produce anything worth smoking. Need to buy real soil, CFLs (not the incadescent bulbs), pH testing for water, ability to regulate the odor(for stealth), nutrients of some sort. You can do a real basic grow but I think you will be disappointed.
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FallenHero
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incandescent bulbs will not work, they are not of the right spectrum, you plants will stretch up and die.
PH is a concern, your plant will not be able to take in nutrients if the PH is far off. and it will die.
You can buy compact flourescent bulbs from the hardware store on your budget, and this could do you o.k. - i veg my plants with them, but i don't have enough to get good buds, so i use a 400w hps to flower with. my advice is to take your 100$ to the hardware store, pick up some CFL's, a moisture meter (cheap) and a PH meter (15$? i forget) and some good soil and perlite.
(and a pool test/water test ph kit for your water, as mightybuddah said)
Read that guide thoroghlly as there are little things you really cant not worry about, like ventalation. and having a small breeze to strengthen stems.. you dont want to prop your plants up properly every day...
PH is a concern, your plant will not be able to take in nutrients if the PH is far off. and it will die.
You can buy compact flourescent bulbs from the hardware store on your budget, and this could do you o.k. - i veg my plants with them, but i don't have enough to get good buds, so i use a 400w hps to flower with. my advice is to take your 100$ to the hardware store, pick up some CFL's, a moisture meter (cheap) and a PH meter (15$? i forget) and some good soil and perlite.
(and a pool test/water test ph kit for your water, as mightybuddah said)
Read that guide thoroghlly as there are little things you really cant not worry about, like ventalation. and having a small breeze to strengthen stems.. you dont want to prop your plants up properly every day...
mogie
Well-Known Member
magcl the rules apply to you no matter what the size of your grow. You do need those silly things like ph testing kits.
First time growers frequently:
Overwater their medium based plants. When you pot your plant, judge its weight dry by hefting. Then, water the plant thoroughly, until water runs through the drain holes. Heft it again. When your pot feels as nearly as light as it did dry, its time to water again. Overfeed their plants. As MrSoul says, beginners rarely under do anything. When all else fails, follow the directions on the fertilizer bottle. [Editor's note: dont follow GH's instructions! Use @ 1/4 their recommended strength, or follow recipes in the FAQ]
Overanalyze their grow. A first grow is like a first born child: you pay attention to every little thing that happens. Further, you worry at the first sign something may be wrong. Pay attention to what happens in your grow, but do not try and find a remedy for every yellow leaf. Frequently, the remedy of flushing your medium causes more problems than it solves. Be responsive when things go wrong, but be conservative in your remedies.
Overspend on grow supplies. New growers frequently commit themselves to unrealistic and expensive first grows. It is much more efficient to learn to grow and then invest in high end equipment rather than the other way around. Most experienced growers don't have room for all of the grow paraphernalia they aren't using. As you will see throughout this FAQ: K-I-S-S.
Overpost. Try the search engine first. Chances are good that any question you can think of has been asked and answered before.
Talk about their grow. Don't tell anybody that does not have to know. How can you expect anybody else to keep a secret that you cannot.
Part 2:
Contributed by: Bush_Grower
1. Don't Overwater
Overwatering kills marijuana plants. Water once the top few inches of the soil dries out.
Hydroponics is harder to over-water than soil, due to the abundance of water roots.
2. Don't Tell People
Why? They will only be jealous. People love to feel important and that is why they will tell other people; because others will listen to them.
Keep it to yourself.
3. Touch/kill Germinating Seeds
It can take up to 10 days for a seed to sprout. The paper towel method is not recommended because you must handle the seeds when transferring them from the paper towel to your growing medium.
4. Grow seeds from seeded marijuana (hermaphrodite seeds)
Unless you are prepared for possible disappointments don’t use "unknown" seeds. This is why people buy seeds from seedbanks.
Self-seeding MJ is produced from hermaphrodite plants or a very stunted and late flowering male the grower did not notice. Flowered hermi seeds will produce tall late flowering females coupled with early flowering males.
5. Don't Over-fertilize
Fertilize after first 2 spiked leaves appear.
Start with 25% of recommended label strengths and work your way up. If the leaves suddenly twist or fold under, Leach and Spray with pure water for several days!
Don’t fertilize your plants every time you water! (Soil)
A common watering schedule is to fertilize at full strength, then water at half or quarter strength. This prevents excess salt buildup, leaf and root burn. In addition, don’t water at full strength if the medium is too dry – root burn can occur.
As a precaution, leach the plants with lots of pure water every 2-4 weeks.
6. Don't Under-fertilize
Under-fertilizing is less common. If you prefer to give the plant ‘just enough nutrients’, use a organic soil mixture with blood meal and bone meal or some slow release fertilizer with micro nutrients.
7. Don't Start with Clones
Start with seeds. Bugs are a pain, as are plant diseases. Many growers are able to grow indoors without pest problems for years. Another grower’s cuttings are almost guaranteed to have diseases &/or pests.
8. Don't Provide A Bad Environment
Always provide air circulation and fresh air even during the night cycle. All the air indoors should be replaced every 5-10 minutes.
Humidity between 30-70% temp aim for around 75-85' Even seedlings need a gentle fan to strengthen the stems.
9. Don't Harvest Too Early
25% of the weight will form in the last 2 weeks. Begin flushing with 100% pH’d water when the pistil are 25% brown. Harvest when the plants have totally stopped growing and the white pistils are at least 50-75% brown.
*NOTE: Outdoors if security is a factor make your own call on when to sacrifice the fields. Also take buds continuously in case of thieves.
Common questions:
Q. Can marijuana grow in a northern climate?
Marijuana plants can grow anywhere corn can grow. All it needs is three growing months - seed to harvest. 2 if started indoors!
Q. Why do I have to buy seeds? Why can't I use my own that I picked from my own stash?
Most people desire, and want to be guaranteed, certain characteristics in their mature female plants. The seeds from any weed will all grow into something different. This is unprofitable and inefficient. As opposed to knowing the single set of requirements for your entire crop, you must provide a different set of requirements for each of your plants.
Q. What is better for a new grower - hydroponics or soil?
I believe the all around "better", more convenient setup is soil. Hydro makes plants grow faster, but won't make your buds more potent than soil. Hydro should be attempted after you have a few successful soil crops under your belt.
If you are starting from seed and growing for personal, soil is the practical growing medium. If the crop is started with clones and is commercial, a hydroponics setup is more practical.
Q. Why are my seedlings stretching?
Low light conditions. They also need a gentle wind. Plants will also stretch when subjected to conditions of high humidity.
Q. What kind of lights should I use?
Cheap 4 ft. cool white fluorescent tubes : for germination/seedlings
400 watt Metal halide/HPS : for personal home growers
1000 watt Metal halide/HPS : for some personal growers and commercial growers.
*Use at least 40 watts per sq. foot of grow space.
Q. How far should the lights be from the plants?
Fluorescent: tips of leaves almost touching bulbs
400 watt halide : two feet away from seedlings and one foot away from grown plants
1000 watt halide: four feet away from seedlings and two feet away from grown plants
First time growers frequently:
Overwater their medium based plants. When you pot your plant, judge its weight dry by hefting. Then, water the plant thoroughly, until water runs through the drain holes. Heft it again. When your pot feels as nearly as light as it did dry, its time to water again. Overfeed their plants. As MrSoul says, beginners rarely under do anything. When all else fails, follow the directions on the fertilizer bottle. [Editor's note: dont follow GH's instructions! Use @ 1/4 their recommended strength, or follow recipes in the FAQ]
Overanalyze their grow. A first grow is like a first born child: you pay attention to every little thing that happens. Further, you worry at the first sign something may be wrong. Pay attention to what happens in your grow, but do not try and find a remedy for every yellow leaf. Frequently, the remedy of flushing your medium causes more problems than it solves. Be responsive when things go wrong, but be conservative in your remedies.
Overspend on grow supplies. New growers frequently commit themselves to unrealistic and expensive first grows. It is much more efficient to learn to grow and then invest in high end equipment rather than the other way around. Most experienced growers don't have room for all of the grow paraphernalia they aren't using. As you will see throughout this FAQ: K-I-S-S.
Overpost. Try the search engine first. Chances are good that any question you can think of has been asked and answered before.
Talk about their grow. Don't tell anybody that does not have to know. How can you expect anybody else to keep a secret that you cannot.
Part 2:
Contributed by: Bush_Grower
1. Don't Overwater
Overwatering kills marijuana plants. Water once the top few inches of the soil dries out.
Hydroponics is harder to over-water than soil, due to the abundance of water roots.
2. Don't Tell People
Why? They will only be jealous. People love to feel important and that is why they will tell other people; because others will listen to them.
Keep it to yourself.
3. Touch/kill Germinating Seeds
It can take up to 10 days for a seed to sprout. The paper towel method is not recommended because you must handle the seeds when transferring them from the paper towel to your growing medium.
4. Grow seeds from seeded marijuana (hermaphrodite seeds)
Unless you are prepared for possible disappointments don’t use "unknown" seeds. This is why people buy seeds from seedbanks.
Self-seeding MJ is produced from hermaphrodite plants or a very stunted and late flowering male the grower did not notice. Flowered hermi seeds will produce tall late flowering females coupled with early flowering males.
5. Don't Over-fertilize
Fertilize after first 2 spiked leaves appear.
Start with 25% of recommended label strengths and work your way up. If the leaves suddenly twist or fold under, Leach and Spray with pure water for several days!
Don’t fertilize your plants every time you water! (Soil)
A common watering schedule is to fertilize at full strength, then water at half or quarter strength. This prevents excess salt buildup, leaf and root burn. In addition, don’t water at full strength if the medium is too dry – root burn can occur.
As a precaution, leach the plants with lots of pure water every 2-4 weeks.
6. Don't Under-fertilize
Under-fertilizing is less common. If you prefer to give the plant ‘just enough nutrients’, use a organic soil mixture with blood meal and bone meal or some slow release fertilizer with micro nutrients.
7. Don't Start with Clones
Start with seeds. Bugs are a pain, as are plant diseases. Many growers are able to grow indoors without pest problems for years. Another grower’s cuttings are almost guaranteed to have diseases &/or pests.
8. Don't Provide A Bad Environment
Always provide air circulation and fresh air even during the night cycle. All the air indoors should be replaced every 5-10 minutes.
Humidity between 30-70% temp aim for around 75-85' Even seedlings need a gentle fan to strengthen the stems.
9. Don't Harvest Too Early
25% of the weight will form in the last 2 weeks. Begin flushing with 100% pH’d water when the pistil are 25% brown. Harvest when the plants have totally stopped growing and the white pistils are at least 50-75% brown.
*NOTE: Outdoors if security is a factor make your own call on when to sacrifice the fields. Also take buds continuously in case of thieves.
Common questions:
Q. Can marijuana grow in a northern climate?
Marijuana plants can grow anywhere corn can grow. All it needs is three growing months - seed to harvest. 2 if started indoors!
Q. Why do I have to buy seeds? Why can't I use my own that I picked from my own stash?
Most people desire, and want to be guaranteed, certain characteristics in their mature female plants. The seeds from any weed will all grow into something different. This is unprofitable and inefficient. As opposed to knowing the single set of requirements for your entire crop, you must provide a different set of requirements for each of your plants.
Q. What is better for a new grower - hydroponics or soil?
I believe the all around "better", more convenient setup is soil. Hydro makes plants grow faster, but won't make your buds more potent than soil. Hydro should be attempted after you have a few successful soil crops under your belt.
If you are starting from seed and growing for personal, soil is the practical growing medium. If the crop is started with clones and is commercial, a hydroponics setup is more practical.
Q. Why are my seedlings stretching?
Low light conditions. They also need a gentle wind. Plants will also stretch when subjected to conditions of high humidity.
Q. What kind of lights should I use?
Cheap 4 ft. cool white fluorescent tubes : for germination/seedlings
400 watt Metal halide/HPS : for personal home growers
1000 watt Metal halide/HPS : for some personal growers and commercial growers.
*Use at least 40 watts per sq. foot of grow space.
Q. How far should the lights be from the plants?
Fluorescent: tips of leaves almost touching bulbs
400 watt halide : two feet away from seedlings and one foot away from grown plants
1000 watt halide: four feet away from seedlings and two feet away from grown plants
nongreenthumb
Well-Known Member
with a 100 bucks you could get a nice n cheap hps system, some pots some good soil and the tube ph test kit. you got some bag seeds to get you started, these bag seeds will germinate, maybe not all of them, but you will get a rise. A hps if you are using a dual spectrum bulb could be used from the start, you could add some cfls into the equation if you liked but the flowering stage is the most important, so having the best lighting for this is the key, you could veg ok with it, but flower great, or you could get cfls and cut down the cost but these are not great for flowering unless you have pleanty of cfls pointing at it, so chances are you would end up with a great looking plant with a low yield and low quality bud.
The choice is yours but before you jump into anything research research research, I cant stress that enough, when I first started growing I thought I had done more than enough research, but the kit i bought when i started out wasnt really what I wanted at all. So spend a week on here, read as much as possible, take into account peoples different views and see what method is going to best suit your budget and your goals, good luck with everything hope to see some pictures of your girls soon.
The choice is yours but before you jump into anything research research research, I cant stress that enough, when I first started growing I thought I had done more than enough research, but the kit i bought when i started out wasnt really what I wanted at all. So spend a week on here, read as much as possible, take into account peoples different views and see what method is going to best suit your budget and your goals, good luck with everything hope to see some pictures of your girls soon.
wow thanks alot. i've learned so much this week seriously but i still have some questions. Where can i actually get seeds? i live in Delaware, and i seriously know of NOWHERE reliable that i would trust my money to. is there some kind of mail order thing? and what type should i get? i don't know what all these breeds are...
keep posting and helping!
thanks again!
keep posting and helping!
thanks again!
Good question. I would like to know the answer!
babygro
Well-Known Member
Ph of your growing medium is important because if it's at the wrong level it'll will affect the nutrient uptake of your plants. However, many people overstate it's importance in soil grows because whilst it can be quite critical in hydroponic growing systems (methods of growing without soil) it's buffered in soil and as long as you start out with good quality sterilised peat/compost soil from a garden centre which is mixed with water retention and drainage materials such as perlite and vermiculite and don't just dig up a pile of dirt from your backyard - you shouldn't have to worry about the ph of your soil changing or fluctuating very much.
If you're working on a small budget, don't waste a 1/5th of your money on a ph meter you'll rarely ever use. My plants are currently vegging under a blue Envirolite and at 4 weeks are nice and healthy and I've never checked the ph once. Monitoring ph levels is useful, but in your situation focus your time, energy and financial resources on getting the basics right first and those are - good quality soil and growing medium, the right kind and quantity of light, basic and reasonable quality nutrient additives and proper and adequate ventilation.
Those are the 3 primary building blocks of plant growth - light, water/nutrients and co2 or correct ventilation. 100 bucks is a bit tight, so what you lack in resources you need to make up for in knowledge by learning as much as you can about the subject matter and making the most of the limited resources at your disposal. It can be done, it just depends on how much time and effort you want to put into it.
TheresNoLuckLikeBudLuck
Well-Known Member
If i were u, i would go get the first couple things you really need, soil, pots, and of course some kind of lighting system. theen i would try my hand at the bagseed to learn how everything works and what to expect. This site has a lot of information so pay attention, take baby steps, learn from your mistakes, then i would venture into worrying about getting named seeds.
By the way, if there is any chance you could get caught, i wouldnt start in the first place. Paranoia and Jail are two bad things to get caugt up in
Good Luck
By the way, if there is any chance you could get caught, i wouldnt start in the first place. Paranoia and Jail are two bad things to get caugt up in
Good Luck
Ok. to sum up what i've learned so far it would be best to use regular potting soil, and to use compact flourescent lightbulbs, the highest wattage possible. It's best to water regularly, every three days or so. the best temperature is around 70-80 degrees F, and moderate ventilation is a good idea- oscilating fan on constantly and vent fan on when the light is. ph should fall about neutral. is this right so far?
Also, exactly what type of fertilizer would be best? since i know nothing about chemicals, or botany, or anything, would regular miracle grow do ok? or those little white things that are in potting soil?
another thing i'm unclear about is the differentiation between stages. i know you can make your plant go into flowering by switching to equal ammounts of light and dark, but how long should i wait until do this? untill i have an obviously healthy plant?
also is there a difference in fertilizer between the two?
Also, exactly what type of fertilizer would be best? since i know nothing about chemicals, or botany, or anything, would regular miracle grow do ok? or those little white things that are in potting soil?
another thing i'm unclear about is the differentiation between stages. i know you can make your plant go into flowering by switching to equal ammounts of light and dark, but how long should i wait until do this? untill i have an obviously healthy plant?
also is there a difference in fertilizer between the two?